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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here. Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk. |
On March 31 2015 06:40 ZeroCartin wrote: I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game.
Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong?
Yes, you are wrong. First of all, LeBlanc a LoL champ shouldn't be mentioned in SC2 Forum. And LotV is like a new game, because of its many changes. Even Heart of the Swarm didnt have so much changes. So saying the game is basically same, is the falsest statement.
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Why no splash for Terran? And plz bring back the Reaver and kill the Colosi which is a boring A move unit.
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On March 31 2015 06:48 TsogiMaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 06:40 ZeroCartin wrote: I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game.
Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong? Yes, you are wrong. First of all, LeBlanc a LoL champ shouldn't be mentioned in SC2 Forum.  And LotV is like a new game, because of its many changes. Even Heart of the Swarm didnt have so much changes. So saying the game is basically same, is the falsest statement.
Le blanc???? He must think of Zed as Blizzard is clearly inspired by that champion, even though the end-product is somewhat different.
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On March 31 2015 06:51 abendrot wrote: Why no splash for Terran? And plz bring back the Reaver and kill the Colosi which is a boring A move unit. You don't know what other unit will Terran get, between Thors, Widow Mines, Tanks and Hellbats, I am not sure why would you need another splash unit. Protoss are getting more and more of them and I am not even sure why.
Colossus is nerfed, new Disruptors will very well work like Reavers when you are dropping them. They won't work as good with Protoss death ball because they are very expensive(and will probably die the moment after their purification nova ends) and at the same time they kill everything except for other Disruptors(even friendly units, just like Widow Mines) which means that Protoss won't be able to use them with Zealots or when he is surrounded, it will be very risky at least.
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On March 31 2015 05:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:05 Hider wrote:On March 31 2015 05:05 Pursuit_ wrote: Wait, 5(+5) x2 Mauraders and 8 armor Ultralisks?
Apparently I'm going to need to rethink my TvZ.
Really excited for all these changes though! 7 armor!!! Ez pz.  I think it is 8, people are saying how it has +4 armor now from his upgrade, while he starts with 1 and gets +3 from carapace upgrades. Unless people are mistaken and he gets +3 from his upgrade. If it stays like that, you will definitely need Widow Mines, Cyclones, Tanks and Thors to deal with Ultralisks, Marauders won't cut it now and Marines will just tickle Ultras.
Oh, forgot about the 1 starting armor..... I just really hate that change. Why not buff its movement speed off creep instead
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On March 31 2015 06:56 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:On March 31 2015 05:05 Hider wrote:On March 31 2015 05:05 Pursuit_ wrote: Wait, 5(+5) x2 Mauraders and 8 armor Ultralisks?
Apparently I'm going to need to rethink my TvZ.
Really excited for all these changes though! 7 armor!!! Ez pz.  I think it is 8, people are saying how it has +4 armor now from his upgrade, while he starts with 1 and gets +3 from carapace upgrades. Unless people are mistaken and he gets +3 from his upgrade. If it stays like that, you will definitely need Widow Mines, Cyclones, Tanks and Thors to deal with Ultralisks, Marauders won't cut it now and Marines will just tickle Ultras. Oh, forgot about the 1 starting armor..... I just really hate that change. Why not buff its movement speed off creep instead 
They were still getting blown up by marauders (see when terran kites back with stim, 1-2 shots an ultra and continues kiting) and not doing so hot even against marine heavy bio if they fell behind on upgrades
On March 31 2015 05:05 Pursuit_ wrote: Wait, 5(+5) x2 Mauraders and 8 armor Ultralisks?
Apparently I'm going to need to rethink my TvZ.
Really excited for all these changes though!
source? are you guys watching LOTV somewhere :0
ah unit tester, when is it going live? (:
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It should go live tomorrow, but they haven't announced it when so we don't know at what time yet.
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On March 31 2015 07:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: It should go live tomorrow, but they haven't announced it when so we don't know at what time yet.
It's the 31'st in europe already 
anyway as soon as there's a stream live i wanna see it! :D
nice sig quote hahaha
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Doubt EU's going to get any keys 'til wednesday, that's usually our ''reset & release'' day.
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Is EU even getting a beta server? It was all on one server last time
troll 
And i'm not planning on getting in instantaneously anyway - i missed the first minutes or even hours of the HOTS beta, but i remember many progamer streams going live with it very quickly
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Highly doubt it now that you say that. That might mean we will get them at the exact same time.
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On March 31 2015 06:40 ZeroCartin wrote: I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game.
Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong? Yes, you are wrong. You want to have Brood War with better graphics. Sorry to disappoint.
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On March 31 2015 06:55 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 06:48 TsogiMaster wrote:On March 31 2015 06:40 ZeroCartin wrote: I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game.
Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong? Yes, you are wrong. First of all, LeBlanc a LoL champ shouldn't be mentioned in SC2 Forum.  And LotV is like a new game, because of its many changes. Even Heart of the Swarm didnt have so much changes. So saying the game is basically same, is the falsest statement. Le blanc???? He must think of Zed as Blizzard is clearly inspired by that champion, even though the end-product is somewhat different. Yep, Zed is more accurate. I sincerely hope to see streams soon to change my mind. Thanks for the answer 
On March 31 2015 07:16 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 06:40 ZeroCartin wrote: I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game.
Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong? Yes, you are wrong. You want to have Brood War with better graphics. Sorry to disappoint.
I hope so! I dont want a BW with better graphics, I want SC2 fixed.
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On March 31 2015 07:03 Ramiz1989 wrote: It should go live tomorrow, but they haven't announced it when so we don't know at what time yet. It will be the 31st in 7hours 35mins in Cali
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On March 31 2015 07:16 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 06:40 ZeroCartin wrote: I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game.
Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong? Yes, you are wrong. You want to have Brood War with better graphics. Sorry to disappoint.
Good thing people have already proved they have all the BW units and stuff in the LOTV beta so I am hoping in LOTV they will have SC2BW built in, which I am pretty sure they already will, it only makes all the logical sense in the universe.
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After playing around with the cyclone more I've come to realize that it more than just a vulture + goliath. Its a vulture + goliath + seige tank. Fast movement speed, good anti-air and it also has long range and high damage. The cyclone is everything strong about brood war mech (the exception being the map control vultures and spider mines provided), with none of its weaknesses. It might be a perfect unit. Its only drawback is its cost, with isn't high enough to make them unmassable.
I don't think it should be good at all of those things.
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On March 31 2015 07:30 royalroadweed wrote: I don't think it should be good at all of those things.
Well, that's all that Terran is getting so far, so it's good.
I still wish for a revamp of Terran's underused units
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On March 31 2015 06:51 abendrot wrote: Why no splash for Terran? And plz bring back the Reaver and kill the Colosi which is a boring A move unit. widow mines? ghost vs P? I do agree reaver is better
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On March 31 2015 02:12 Teoita wrote: Also, adepts only splash when they get a killing blow, so it looks like it will only be effective vs marines and lings. It's also a third twilight council research, so it's not that easy to get to either because blink is so important. oh no... last hitting in SC2? Thought we were done with that crap.
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