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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here. Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk. |
On March 31 2015 03:49 Teoita wrote:
Adepts can close in with tank lines quite easily though. Also stasis looks ok vs mech i guess, and carriers could be even better (and they are already decent against it)
Yeah but you're not going to have just tanks sitting around with nothing else there. Once the Adapt teleports in the biggest damage will be off potential friendly fire. Hellions will still be there to kill the Adapt.
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anyone know when the preorder is going to be available?
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On March 31 2015 03:51 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 03:49 Teoita wrote:
Adepts can close in with tank lines quite easily though. Also stasis looks ok vs mech i guess, and carriers could be even better (and they are already decent against it) Yeah but you're not going to have just tanks sitting around with nothing else there. Once the Adapt teleports in the biggest damage will be off potential friendly fire. Hellions will still be there to kill the Adapt.
Of course, all im saying is protoss has a lot of ways to engage really, really well vs mech, or so it appears for now. Even just getting one tank volley on adepts instead of immortals/archons could be huge.
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On March 31 2015 03:51 mongmong wrote:
anyone know when the preorder is going to be available?
From the BNet store? I'd imagine not until they have a release date locked in. I don't even know if we'll know that until Blizzcon.
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On March 31 2015 03:48 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 03:37 royalroadweed wrote:On March 31 2015 02:08 Tenks wrote:
Adapt with Splash (was this upgrade confirmed?) will absolutely shred marines. Marauders are now (5+5)x2 so they're slightly less effective against structures now so cannons may be a bit better. And that is taking for granted that bio will still be the staple in TvP.
People really need to let the beta play and simmer for a bit prior to freaking out with theorycraft I would be very surprised if people mech in TvP. Blizzard gave protoss 2 more units that are good at exploiting siege tanks. The adapt and disruptor? Adapt just tickles armored units and I don't think the Disruptor one-shots tanks.
The Disruptor ability allows it to get on top of tanks, it doesn't one shot the tanks but it does leave them with only 15 hp and the splash is big enough to hit 3-4 tanks. Tanks either have to unsiege to kill it or if surround tanks can attack it the splash damage end up killing off the 15 hp tanks.
On March 31 2015 03:51 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 03:49 Teoita wrote:
Adepts can close in with tank lines quite easily though. Also stasis looks ok vs mech i guess, and carriers could be even better (and they are already decent against it) Yeah but you're not going to have just tanks sitting around with nothing else there. Once the Adapt teleports in the biggest damage will be off potential friendly fire. Hellions will still be there to kill the Adapt.
Adepts aren't going to be alone either. I like that the hard counter in hardened shield was removed but protoss still has too many options that are good vs siege tanks and mech in general.
On March 31 2015 03:49 Teoita wrote:
Adepts can close in with tank lines quite easily though. Also stasis looks ok vs mech i guess, and carriers could be even better (and they are already decent against it)
Forgot about these. Carriers and tempests will also give mech a hard time. Mass cyclones might solve the anti air problems, but I'm not looking forward to it because I don't like the unit. If feels like a mix between the vulture and goliath but less fun than either one of them.
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That said, all of those can be countered with good tank spread and positioning, so at least it's a more interesting mechanic than now.
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what i especially fear about the new economy is that it requires maps to be bigger because the player need more bases which may result in more passive games with less early aggression.
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On March 31 2015 03:37 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 02:08 Tenks wrote:
Adapt with Splash (was this upgrade confirmed?) will absolutely shred marines. Marauders are now (5+5)x2 so they're slightly less effective against structures now so cannons may be a bit better. And that is taking for granted that bio will still be the staple in TvP.
People really need to let the beta play and simmer for a bit prior to freaking out with theorycraft I would be very surprised if people mech in TvP. Blizzard gave protoss 2 more units that are good at exploiting siege tanks.
keep in mind all this stuff is still in beta....they could wipe adebts shade ability altogether....could make it slower, all kinds of stuff could happen along with the fact that there is another terran unit still up for grabs that could easily complement mech play
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Wait, 5(+5) x2 Mauraders and 8 armor Ultralisks?
Apparently I'm going to need to rethink my TvZ.
Really excited for all these changes though!
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On March 31 2015 05:05 Pursuit_ wrote:
Wait, 5(+5) x2 Mauraders and 8 armor Ultralisks?
Apparently I'm going to need to rethink my TvZ.
Really excited for all these changes though!
7 armor!!! Ez pz. 
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Will the beta be streamed on twitch?
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On March 31 2015 05:21 excitedBear wrote:
Will the beta be streamed on twitch?
Yes.
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will beta be open at 0 AM PDT?
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I just watched disruptors in action for the first time. Good god they're broken XD
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On March 31 2015 05:05 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:05 Pursuit_ wrote:
Wait, 5(+5) x2 Mauraders and 8 armor Ultralisks?
Apparently I'm going to need to rethink my TvZ.
Really excited for all these changes though! 7 armor!!! Ez pz.
I think it is 8, people are saying how it has +4 armor now from his upgrade, while he starts with 1 and gets +3 from carapace upgrades. Unless people are mistaken and he gets +3 from his upgrade.
If it stays like that, you will definitely need Widow Mines, Cyclones, Tanks and Thors to deal with Ultralisks, Marauders won't cut it now and Marines will just tickle Ultras.
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On March 31 2015 05:50 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:05 Hider wrote:On March 31 2015 05:05 Pursuit_ wrote:
Wait, 5(+5) x2 Mauraders and 8 armor Ultralisks?
Apparently I'm going to need to rethink my TvZ.
Really excited for all these changes though! 7 armor!!! Ez pz. I think it is 8, people are saying how it has +4 armor now from his upgrade, while he starts with 1 and gets +3 from carapace upgrades. Unless people are mistaken and he gets +3 from his upgrade. If it stays like that, you will definitely need Widow Mines, Cyclones, Tanks and Thors to deal with Ultralisks, Marauders won't cut it now and Marines will just tickle Ultras.
unit tester shows 8 armor!!
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On March 31 2015 00:36 Tresher wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 22:51 darkness wrote:On March 30 2015 22:16 -Kyo- wrote:On March 30 2015 21:09 theBALLS wrote:
have they begun sending out invites yet? No, not to my knowledge. It's actually quite bizarre. The beta starts tomorrow and there are quite a few people like myself who even know their account is going to be flagged but it has not happened yet. My email was contacted by ESL for WCS placements and there are roughly 120 other people who need to be given access as they have already been notified by ESL as well. It's really weird considering the client is available to a few... the thing starts tomorrow... It's honestly kind of worrisome haha >.> I assume they're just going to do it all at once on the 31st, though that is really odd considering we don't know what time it starts/how to dl client or really anything else at all yet.. Typical morons from Blizzard.. they're too busy making money out of WoW, Hearthstone and whatever else. What happened to their passion for StarCraft? Inform yourselves people before you say such things..
Not sure if this was supposed to be in reply to both of us but as I mentioned ESL has already said many accounts, including mine, are to be flagged for the beta. The point we were both making is that it is incredibly weird that the beta starts tomorrow and we don't even know how to DL the client, when it starts or anything else. I could really kind of care less since I have a 100meg fiber optic service, but it does make you wonder about the way the information has been provided so far.
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I can't wait anymore, PLS blizzard.
At least post the FAQ -.-
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On March 31 2015 06:22 -Kyo- wrote:
Not sure if this was supposed to be in reply to both of us but as I mentioned ESL has already said many accounts, including mine, are to be flagged for the beta. The point we were both making is that it is incredibly weird that the beta starts tomorrow and we don't even know how to DL the client, when it starts or anything else. I could really kind of care less since I have a 100meg fiber optic service, but it does make you wonder about the way the information has been provided so far.
It'll appear on the Bnet launcher when your account is flagged. There's going to be a new Region for the LotV beta. At least that's what it was like for the D3 RoS and WoW Beta.
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I feel bad that im still not hyped for this release. I feel the cores sc2 issues are still not solved. I like the mineral patch changes and starting workers, but thats about it. Lurkers back seem ok, protoss units seem really not interesting (great a leblanc in Sc2 that I think will barely see play, seems likea nerfed version of a DT), weird exploding air unit and changes not that interesting. Reavers not coming back and collusus still in the game.
Im not sure if Im missing something, but i still dont feel it wil lbe so much of a different game than it currently is. Am I wrong?
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