• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:31
CEST 08:31
KST 15:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Ivermectin & Fenbendazole Combo Pack for Parasite Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15211 users

[Patch 9.19] Worlds Patch General Discussion - Page 3

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 01 2019 21:31 GMT
#41
I could see him being picked into the right circumstances. I started typing some things out, and I quickly realized that those conditions mean pretty much hard winning draft regardless, so kind of a moot point. So I changed my mind, I don't think he'll be picked. Lol.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2019 04:11 GMT
#42
Making a balance prediction now: By the end of Season 10 Quiana's ult will not push back
Carrilord has arrived.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 05 2019 13:45 GMT
#43
Wouldn't that make the ult 100% useless? How often is someone standing so close to a wall that it would make that stun useful
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2019 15:52 GMT
#44
It would probably be too weak for laning but fine for mid/late. The current combination of size/distance of knockback combined with the size of the stun hit box in general but especially on baron / dragon wall is going to remain a problem if her damage numbers are anywhere near in line.
Carrilord has arrived.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 05 2019 16:38 GMT
#45
Currently she has absurd damage and game changing CC, and her kit is incredibly flexible. Something needs to be nerfed, she's in the same boat as Akali, if you play her perfect you cannot lose, only mistakes allow for enemy outplays. At least there are technically some counters, but few people below Diamond play a solid LeBlanc.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
October 05 2019 17:49 GMT
#46
Few people below and above diamond also play perfect.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 18:45:21
October 05 2019 18:44 GMT
#47
On October 05 2019 13:11 Slusher wrote:
Making a balance prediction now: By the end of Season 10 Quiana's ult will not push back

Stun on ult will be removed, it makes no sense an AoE mega nuke also comes with 1 second hard CC after most likely also hitting with a knockback. Various AD ratios are probably also being lowered a smidge and since Rito logic the AP ratios are being increased.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 21:53:51
October 05 2019 21:53 GMT
#48
On October 06 2019 03:44 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 13:11 Slusher wrote:
Making a balance prediction now: By the end of Season 10 Quiana's ult will not push back

Stun on ult will be removed, it makes no sense an AoE mega nuke also comes with 1 second hard CC after most likely also hitting with a knockback. Various AD ratios are probably also being lowered a smidge and since Rito logic the AP ratios are being increased.

I personally dont understand the idea of high utility (sometimes even aoe) assassins such as ekko, quianna, pyke etc. The only utility an assassin should have is the one that promotes his own kills. Fizz fish and Le bland rope should be the limits of team oriented utility an assassin posses. Its mostly for their own kills, but sometimes an ally can take advantage of it
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9289 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 22:20:21
October 05 2019 22:14 GMT
#49
I think Ekko and Qiyana aren't true assassins like Zed or Leblanc, and that means their damage potential should be adequately lower. Low enough to justify picking the true assassins instead of them in situations when you need those, but also not so low that it's always better to pick champs like Ahri or Camille when you need utility combined with burst/pick potential.
You're now breathing manually
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 22:38:27
October 05 2019 22:30 GMT
#50
I actually really like current Pyke as a design in the sense that he’s an assassin who’s only potential income is killing champions, 2 cc spells is a bit iffy but I’ve got bigger fish to fry when it comes to bad champion design (Sylas)
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 06 2019 06:18 GMT
#51
On October 06 2019 06:53 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2019 03:44 Jek wrote:
On October 05 2019 13:11 Slusher wrote:
Making a balance prediction now: By the end of Season 10 Quiana's ult will not push back

Stun on ult will be removed, it makes no sense an AoE mega nuke also comes with 1 second hard CC after most likely also hitting with a knockback. Various AD ratios are probably also being lowered a smidge and since Rito logic the AP ratios are being increased.

I personally dont understand the idea of high utility (sometimes even aoe) assassins such as ekko, quianna, pyke etc. The only utility an assassin should have is the one that promotes his own kills. Fizz fish and Le bland rope should be the limits of team oriented utility an assassin posses. Its mostly for their own kills, but sometimes an ally can take advantage of it

And thus, everything became bruisers, as Riot always imagined.
Freeeeeeedom
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 16:49:46
October 06 2019 16:48 GMT
#52
On October 06 2019 07:30 Slusher wrote:
I actually really like current Pyke as a design in the sense that he’s an assassin who’s only potential income is killing champions, 2 cc spells is a bit iffy but I’ve got bigger fish to fry when it comes to bad champion design (Sylas)

I actually find Pyke as an epitome of all unfun mechanics put together, not in a mood to explain in details, but I think everyone can guess what I mean. Sylas kit on the other hand looks perfectly fine to me and the only issue I see is with his cooldowns being to low. He like never runs out of abilities, just put 10 (or maybe even more) sec CD extra on all of his regular abilities and he probably would have been fine
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 17:52:35
October 06 2019 17:41 GMT
#53
retracted
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 06 2019 17:48 GMT
#54
On October 07 2019 01:48 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2019 07:30 Slusher wrote:
I actually really like current Pyke as a design in the sense that he’s an assassin who’s only potential income is killing champions, 2 cc spells is a bit iffy but I’ve got bigger fish to fry when it comes to bad champion design (Sylas)

I actually find Pyke as an epitome of all unfun mechanics put together, not in a mood to explain in details, but I think everyone can guess what I mean. Sylas kit on the other hand looks perfectly fine to me and the only issue I see is with his cooldowns being to low. He like never runs out of abilities, just put 10 (or maybe even more) sec CD extra on all of his regular abilities and he probably would have been fine

The ultimate thing is a CD problem, likely, as well.
Freeeeeeedom
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
October 06 2019 18:02 GMT
#55
On October 07 2019 02:48 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2019 01:48 M2 wrote:
On October 06 2019 07:30 Slusher wrote:
I actually really like current Pyke as a design in the sense that he’s an assassin who’s only potential income is killing champions, 2 cc spells is a bit iffy but I’ve got bigger fish to fry when it comes to bad champion design (Sylas)

I actually find Pyke as an epitome of all unfun mechanics put together, not in a mood to explain in details, but I think everyone can guess what I mean. Sylas kit on the other hand looks perfectly fine to me and the only issue I see is with his cooldowns being to low. He like never runs out of abilities, just put 10 (or maybe even more) sec CD extra on all of his regular abilities and he probably would have been fine

The ultimate thing is a CD problem, likely, as well.

I honestly think that most of the problematic champions could've been fixed with only cooldowns adjustments, like if its strong give it high cooldowns and call it a day, but Riot wants league to be like a dodge ball with unlimited and unstoppable constant throwing and dodging spells. I guess this is what the kids like and this is why league is the most popular game though
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8842 Posts
October 07 2019 02:40 GMT
#56
sylas 100% needs nerfs on cd rather than dmg.
if you throw a q and then you use all your other abilities with autos weaving in between you have q up at the end. that is fucked
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 07 2019 08:51 GMT
#57
Sylas is a button masher, like Ryze. And just like Ryze, his combo is fairly easy to learn, but knowing when/how to use his abilities is very hard. So he's in a weird spot where he either feels useless or completely busted, sometimes even in the same game.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 07 2019 09:07 GMT
#58
On October 07 2019 17:51 DarkCore wrote:
Sylas is a button masher, like Ryze. And just like Ryze, his combo is fairly easy to learn, but knowing when/how to use his abilities is very hard. So he's in a weird spot where he either feels useless or completely busted, sometimes even in the same game.


High skill-cap champ that is negated by his stupidly easy to use ult that scales with how well you understand the game.
Que Sera Sera
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 07 2019 09:08 GMT
#59
On October 07 2019 17:51 DarkCore wrote:
Sylas is a button masher, like Ryze. And just like Ryze, his combo is fairly easy to learn, but knowing when/how to use his abilities is very hard. So he's in a weird spot where he either feels useless or completely busted, sometimes even in the same game.

Only true if he doesn't have a good ult to steal. It can be a bit of a get out of jail free card, particularly if sylas farms decently, which is pretty easy most the time , it seems.
Freeeeeeedom
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 07 2019 09:34 GMT
#60
On October 07 2019 18:08 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2019 17:51 DarkCore wrote:
Sylas is a button masher, like Ryze. And just like Ryze, his combo is fairly easy to learn, but knowing when/how to use his abilities is very hard. So he's in a weird spot where he either feels useless or completely busted, sometimes even in the same game.

Only true if he doesn't have a good ult to steal. It can be a bit of a get out of jail free card, particularly if sylas farms decently, which is pretty easy most the time , it seems.


Yeah, and competitive will always have good ults to steal because ur not gonna see shit champs. So it's double busted.
Que Sera Sera
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: Map Judging #1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 146
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4264
GuemChi 3722
Tasteless 293
Leta 287
sSak 110
soO 45
Sacsri 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
IntoTheRainbow 8
Icarus 8
[ Show more ]
Noble 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm90
canceldota69
League of Legends
JimRising 704
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1640
Coldzera 1312
m0e_tv605
Other Games
summit1g10163
C9.Mang0227
Mew2King94
RuFF_SC228
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick984
BasetradeTV297
Counter-Strike
PGL295
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1279
• Rush1100
• Stunt523
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 29m
PiGosaur Cup
17h 29m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
uThermal 2v2 Last Chance Qualifiers 2026
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.