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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 01 2019 21:31 GMT
#41
I could see him being picked into the right circumstances. I started typing some things out, and I quickly realized that those conditions mean pretty much hard winning draft regardless, so kind of a moot point. So I changed my mind, I don't think he'll be picked. Lol.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2019 04:11 GMT
#42
Making a balance prediction now: By the end of Season 10 Quiana's ult will not push back
Carrilord has arrived.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 05 2019 13:45 GMT
#43
Wouldn't that make the ult 100% useless? How often is someone standing so close to a wall that it would make that stun useful
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2019 15:52 GMT
#44
It would probably be too weak for laning but fine for mid/late. The current combination of size/distance of knockback combined with the size of the stun hit box in general but especially on baron / dragon wall is going to remain a problem if her damage numbers are anywhere near in line.
Carrilord has arrived.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 05 2019 16:38 GMT
#45
Currently she has absurd damage and game changing CC, and her kit is incredibly flexible. Something needs to be nerfed, she's in the same boat as Akali, if you play her perfect you cannot lose, only mistakes allow for enemy outplays. At least there are technically some counters, but few people below Diamond play a solid LeBlanc.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
October 05 2019 17:49 GMT
#46
Few people below and above diamond also play perfect.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 18:45:21
October 05 2019 18:44 GMT
#47
On October 05 2019 13:11 Slusher wrote:
Making a balance prediction now: By the end of Season 10 Quiana's ult will not push back

Stun on ult will be removed, it makes no sense an AoE mega nuke also comes with 1 second hard CC after most likely also hitting with a knockback. Various AD ratios are probably also being lowered a smidge and since Rito logic the AP ratios are being increased.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 21:53:51
October 05 2019 21:53 GMT
#48
On October 06 2019 03:44 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2019 13:11 Slusher wrote:
Making a balance prediction now: By the end of Season 10 Quiana's ult will not push back

Stun on ult will be removed, it makes no sense an AoE mega nuke also comes with 1 second hard CC after most likely also hitting with a knockback. Various AD ratios are probably also being lowered a smidge and since Rito logic the AP ratios are being increased.

I personally dont understand the idea of high utility (sometimes even aoe) assassins such as ekko, quianna, pyke etc. The only utility an assassin should have is the one that promotes his own kills. Fizz fish and Le bland rope should be the limits of team oriented utility an assassin posses. Its mostly for their own kills, but sometimes an ally can take advantage of it
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9261 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 22:20:21
October 05 2019 22:14 GMT
#49
I think Ekko and Qiyana aren't true assassins like Zed or Leblanc, and that means their damage potential should be adequately lower. Low enough to justify picking the true assassins instead of them in situations when you need those, but also not so low that it's always better to pick champs like Ahri or Camille when you need utility combined with burst/pick potential.
You're now breathing manually
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-05 22:38:27
October 05 2019 22:30 GMT
#50
I actually really like current Pyke as a design in the sense that he’s an assassin who’s only potential income is killing champions, 2 cc spells is a bit iffy but I’ve got bigger fish to fry when it comes to bad champion design (Sylas)
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 06 2019 06:18 GMT
#51
On October 06 2019 06:53 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2019 03:44 Jek wrote:
On October 05 2019 13:11 Slusher wrote:
Making a balance prediction now: By the end of Season 10 Quiana's ult will not push back

Stun on ult will be removed, it makes no sense an AoE mega nuke also comes with 1 second hard CC after most likely also hitting with a knockback. Various AD ratios are probably also being lowered a smidge and since Rito logic the AP ratios are being increased.

I personally dont understand the idea of high utility (sometimes even aoe) assassins such as ekko, quianna, pyke etc. The only utility an assassin should have is the one that promotes his own kills. Fizz fish and Le bland rope should be the limits of team oriented utility an assassin posses. Its mostly for their own kills, but sometimes an ally can take advantage of it

And thus, everything became bruisers, as Riot always imagined.
Freeeeeeedom
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 16:49:46
October 06 2019 16:48 GMT
#52
On October 06 2019 07:30 Slusher wrote:
I actually really like current Pyke as a design in the sense that he’s an assassin who’s only potential income is killing champions, 2 cc spells is a bit iffy but I’ve got bigger fish to fry when it comes to bad champion design (Sylas)

I actually find Pyke as an epitome of all unfun mechanics put together, not in a mood to explain in details, but I think everyone can guess what I mean. Sylas kit on the other hand looks perfectly fine to me and the only issue I see is with his cooldowns being to low. He like never runs out of abilities, just put 10 (or maybe even more) sec CD extra on all of his regular abilities and he probably would have been fine
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-06 17:52:35
October 06 2019 17:41 GMT
#53
retracted
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 06 2019 17:48 GMT
#54
On October 07 2019 01:48 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2019 07:30 Slusher wrote:
I actually really like current Pyke as a design in the sense that he’s an assassin who’s only potential income is killing champions, 2 cc spells is a bit iffy but I’ve got bigger fish to fry when it comes to bad champion design (Sylas)

I actually find Pyke as an epitome of all unfun mechanics put together, not in a mood to explain in details, but I think everyone can guess what I mean. Sylas kit on the other hand looks perfectly fine to me and the only issue I see is with his cooldowns being to low. He like never runs out of abilities, just put 10 (or maybe even more) sec CD extra on all of his regular abilities and he probably would have been fine

The ultimate thing is a CD problem, likely, as well.
Freeeeeeedom
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
October 06 2019 18:02 GMT
#55
On October 07 2019 02:48 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2019 01:48 M2 wrote:
On October 06 2019 07:30 Slusher wrote:
I actually really like current Pyke as a design in the sense that he’s an assassin who’s only potential income is killing champions, 2 cc spells is a bit iffy but I’ve got bigger fish to fry when it comes to bad champion design (Sylas)

I actually find Pyke as an epitome of all unfun mechanics put together, not in a mood to explain in details, but I think everyone can guess what I mean. Sylas kit on the other hand looks perfectly fine to me and the only issue I see is with his cooldowns being to low. He like never runs out of abilities, just put 10 (or maybe even more) sec CD extra on all of his regular abilities and he probably would have been fine

The ultimate thing is a CD problem, likely, as well.

I honestly think that most of the problematic champions could've been fixed with only cooldowns adjustments, like if its strong give it high cooldowns and call it a day, but Riot wants league to be like a dodge ball with unlimited and unstoppable constant throwing and dodging spells. I guess this is what the kids like and this is why league is the most popular game though
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8778 Posts
October 07 2019 02:40 GMT
#56
sylas 100% needs nerfs on cd rather than dmg.
if you throw a q and then you use all your other abilities with autos weaving in between you have q up at the end. that is fucked
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 07 2019 08:51 GMT
#57
Sylas is a button masher, like Ryze. And just like Ryze, his combo is fairly easy to learn, but knowing when/how to use his abilities is very hard. So he's in a weird spot where he either feels useless or completely busted, sometimes even in the same game.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 07 2019 09:07 GMT
#58
On October 07 2019 17:51 DarkCore wrote:
Sylas is a button masher, like Ryze. And just like Ryze, his combo is fairly easy to learn, but knowing when/how to use his abilities is very hard. So he's in a weird spot where he either feels useless or completely busted, sometimes even in the same game.


High skill-cap champ that is negated by his stupidly easy to use ult that scales with how well you understand the game.
Que Sera Sera
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 07 2019 09:08 GMT
#59
On October 07 2019 17:51 DarkCore wrote:
Sylas is a button masher, like Ryze. And just like Ryze, his combo is fairly easy to learn, but knowing when/how to use his abilities is very hard. So he's in a weird spot where he either feels useless or completely busted, sometimes even in the same game.

Only true if he doesn't have a good ult to steal. It can be a bit of a get out of jail free card, particularly if sylas farms decently, which is pretty easy most the time , it seems.
Freeeeeeedom
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 07 2019 09:34 GMT
#60
On October 07 2019 18:08 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2019 17:51 DarkCore wrote:
Sylas is a button masher, like Ryze. And just like Ryze, his combo is fairly easy to learn, but knowing when/how to use his abilities is very hard. So he's in a weird spot where he either feels useless or completely busted, sometimes even in the same game.

Only true if he doesn't have a good ult to steal. It can be a bit of a get out of jail free card, particularly if sylas farms decently, which is pretty easy most the time , it seems.


Yeah, and competitive will always have good ults to steal because ur not gonna see shit champs. So it's double busted.
Que Sera Sera
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