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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On October 07 2019 18:34 AdsMoFro wrote: Yeah, and competitive will always have good ults to steal because ur not gonna see shit champs. So it's double busted. I already complained about that aspect of drafting when Faker stomped with him. He brings a mechanic into PB which no other champion does, namely your own ultimates countering your comp. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On October 07 2019 19:20 DarkCore wrote: I already complained about that aspect of drafting when Faker stomped with him. He brings a mechanic into PB which no other champion does, namely your own ultimates countering your comp. And circumventing inbuilt weaknesses of some ults (like Gnar) | ||
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On October 07 2019 23:27 loSleb wrote: Oh no a champion having a unique aspect, and it affects draft too? Pls make more Garens instead. This but unironically. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4123 Posts
On October 07 2019 23:27 loSleb wrote: Oh no a champion having a unique aspect, and it affects draft too? Pls make more Garens instead. I feel personally attacked. Also yes, this but unironically. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On October 07 2019 23:27 loSleb wrote: Oh no a champion having a unique aspect, and it affects draft too? Pls make more Garens instead. Yeah, I think it's a problem? Who would ever consider that the champions you draft counter your own comp? You want teams to spend their entire draft time mulling over if their champion counter themselves, instead of focusing on what the opponents actually pick? More Garen champs with simple kits would be great, except we all know they wouldn't be played. In fact, when was the last time Riot released a champ that was designed to not be a competitive pick. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
1)not avoidable 2)at worst as good as your version but in most cases stronger 3)q,w,e are not balanced around OP ults, so original Sylas could steal 2 ults in a teamfight but they nerfed the cd because it was to good, but I think they should have doubled down given him more ults earlier and made his base skills worse. As it is currently he’s just like op ult with a better kit in matchups like Zed or TF But honestly I will settle for 2 changes, no stealing unskilled ults(lvl 5), lose stolen spell on death. Also kingslayer should be melee range instead of a second gap closer | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
On October 08 2019 03:45 DarkCore wrote: Yeah, I think it's a problem? Who would ever consider that the champions you draft counter your own comp? You want teams to spend their entire draft time mulling over if their champion counter themselves, instead of focusing on what the opponents actually pick? More Garen champs with simple kits would be great, except we all know they wouldn't be played. In fact, when was the last time Riot released a champ that was designed to not be a competitive pick. Every DotA team would. Also yeah why doesn't Riot just design a champion thats not competitive and not fun, really stupid of them. Sylas has sub 45% winrate in Soloq and has 1 pick in world's play-ins. You guys are just complaining that new champions actually do more than press 1 button. If you want to change anything change the w to not be empowered on low health, both ways. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
1) weak base kit, good spell stealing and use is the champion “fantasy “ 2) counterplay, giving Rubick a good spell is preventable on most heros if you respect his presence 3) he loses stolen spells on death 4)the nonexistence of AP in Dota matters a lot for Rubick being balanced The existence of Rubick is exactly why I hate Sylas, this isn’t a complaint about how strong Sylas is it’s a complaint about how unga bunga he feels when you know Rubick exists. It’s about getting your ult stolen with no way to prevent it, even if you instantly one shot him for coming to get it. It’s about dodging E2 and getting point and click gap closed by w. We had the version where his free sheen made the miss all skills win trade anyway play style work. It’s not a balance thing, it’s not a spell stealing shouldn’t exist thing, it’s a this implementation is so poorly done the existence of the champion annoys me thing. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On October 08 2019 08:07 loSleb wrote: Sylas has sub 45% winrate in Soloq and has 1 pick in world's play-ins. You guys are just complaining that new champions actually do more than press 1 button. If you want to change anything change the w to not be empowered on low health, both ways. SoloQ winrate =/ balanced, that point has been brought up forever in League. He's also only seen 1 pick because the teams here don't pick him. Sylas had a 100% PB in both LPL and LEC playoffs, and 77% in LCK and LCS. Only champions that can match his PB rate are Akali, Aatrox and Yuumi, although I'm guessing that Panth is going to be perma banned the entirety of Worlds too. All of them are the newest releases by Riot, so yeah I think my complaints have some truth to them. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4979 Posts
Like how should you be allowed to technically shen ult, karthus ult and tf ult in the same teamfight? | ||
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