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[Patch 5.24] League of Legends General Discussion

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 20:24:04
December 08 2015 20:22 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread. While posting standards tend to be rather lax in this thread, pointless spam will not be tolerated.

Gameplay discussion should go in the Gameplay Discussion thread. Gameplay discussion includes, but is not exclusive to:
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Additionally, the TL LoL Ten Commandments are available for you to reference if you have any questions about this subforum.

Use the LoL Strategy subforum if you have game or champion specific questions. Lastly, confine QQing and bragging to their respective threads.

Poppy, Keeper of the Hammer, will be updated with the launch of patch 5.24.

Patch 5.24: Live on Dec. 9th, 2015

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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 08 2015 20:28 GMT
#2
Aaah there's the movespeed nerf to Tahm that I thought was already in this patch lol :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 08 2015 20:38 GMT
#3
No more Scarra wards! Hooray!
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 08 2015 21:01 GMT
#4
I think it's pretty lame that they nerfed DFT and champions that were abusing DFT in the same patch, but even including that the Hecarim and Karthus nerfs are even weirder.

other than that I'm happy with the changes.
Carrilord has arrived.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 08 2015 21:03 GMT
#5
--- Nuked ---
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
December 08 2015 21:05 GMT
#6
I thought precision was already very good, why is it getting buffed so much?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 08 2015 21:09 GMT
#7
same reason thunderlords is getting buffed when there is already 6 of them in every game. Riot has very little understanding of the state of their game when its in an experimental state. Pretty much everyone already takes cunning for thunderlords, their cluelessness knows no bounds!
I come in for the scraps
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 08 2015 21:17 GMT
#8
I didn't even know DFT was a problem cause I see Thunderlords on like everyone and fervor on everyone else :/

At least some Soraka nerfs though
Bronze player stuck in platinum
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 21:38:58
December 08 2015 21:34 GMT
#9
praise the lord

they fixed xin

also they temporarily unbroke creep behavior while they try and actually fix it.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 21:50:32
December 08 2015 21:42 GMT
#10
Damn, can't believe they're actually buffing Bard. I legit thought Bard was top 4 supports right now (if not including Soraka's perma-banned status).

Ugh, theyactually removed shiv+rfc combo. I'm so sad.
liftlift > tsm
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 08 2015 21:54 GMT
#11
Eh, Bard is good because he gets so much free stuff. When he gets ahead, he gets ahead in a way that's really impactful without being super obvious-- he doesn't do much more damage, but he's kinda tanky and has a lot of playmaking ability. Also, the more ahead he gets, the more ahead he gets cuz he can roam and collect scrolls and stuff.

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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 08 2015 21:57 GMT
#12
On December 09 2015 06:54 ticklishmusic wrote:
Eh, Bard is good because he gets so much free stuff. When he gets ahead, he gets ahead in a way that's really impactful without being super obvious-- he doesn't do much more damage, but he's kinda tanky and has a lot of playmaking ability. Also, the more ahead he gets, the more ahead he gets cuz he can roam and collect scrolls and stuff.


With these buffs I wonder if AP Bard will be a thing. Normally used to just building him tanky with CDR to just be a massive nuisance with a fuck ton of bindings + wall portals. But, with the heal buff, it might actually be worth building a bit more AP on him.
liftlift > tsm
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
December 08 2015 21:57 GMT
#13
seems most of the nerfs are really just to force and meta where adc is the center of the team and assassins can see play again.
Moar banelings less qq
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 08 2015 22:02 GMT
#14
that new "assassin" mastery they are adding should really be called "am I solo laning?"

am I going to try and win lane? use this mastery

Am I going to play passive? dont use this mastery, but maybe use it anyway since nothing better

garbage
I come in for the scraps
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 08 2015 22:08 GMT
#15
That bard heal change doesn't matter at all. You just go fqc into a tank.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 08 2015 22:11 GMT
#16
On December 09 2015 07:08 nafta wrote:
That bard heal change doesn't matter at all. You just go fqc into a tank.

Might influence supports to build more AP over tank, or more tanky-AP oriented, if there's an influx of early gold.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 22:15:10
December 08 2015 22:13 GMT
#17
No it will not. It isn't a change that matter at all. It gives 30 hp for 200 ap on a 12 sec cd ability when you let it stack. Just lol.

The passive buff is a lot more significant.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 08 2015 22:16 GMT
#18
On December 09 2015 07:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
that new "assassin" mastery they are adding should really be called "am I solo laning?"

am I going to try and win lane? use this mastery

Am I going to play passive? dont use this mastery, but maybe use it anyway since nothing better

garbage

It's pretty sweet for junglers, since most of them weren't going much into Cunning.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 08 2015 22:16 GMT
#19
http://plays.tv/video/56613c644f0ceb4a8c/bard-doing-bard-things

IDK if worth building much AP since he has 2 (2.5 really) ratios which are kinda meh. 45% cdr, a little bit of pen and just be a huge troll
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 08 2015 22:20 GMT
#20
On December 09 2015 07:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
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On December 09 2015 07:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
that new "assassin" mastery they are adding should really be called "am I solo laning?"

am I going to try and win lane? use this mastery

Am I going to play passive? dont use this mastery, but maybe use it anyway since nothing better

garbage

It's pretty sweet for junglers, since most of them weren't going much into Cunning.

How are most of them not going cunning? Almost every jungler goes for cunning except the mega tanks like mundo and rammus.
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