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On December 10 2015 01:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
taking a second highly analytic approach to these patch notes, I think they are secretly one of the worst patches in a long time, rivaling patch 4.20 possibly?
They are way behind on whats good. Im expecting 5 thunderlords to go up to probably 8 thunderlords in every game.
I just can't reasonably support 90% of these patch notes and they dont even affect any champions I play.
In all the games I played on this patch this is the case. 8+ Thunderlords every game.
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precision + thunderlords is far too good to pass up, especially since the competition is nerfed
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More like Precision is far too good to pass up and Thunderlords is sort of similar to the Ferocity keystones.
Holy shit is Precision OP as fuck.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
I don't think Thunderlord's is actually that good, it's just that it's the only option for damage for most champs. Every single AP champ (and most AD champs) can only choose between Thunderlord's and Deathfire Touch for damage, and Deathfire Touch has to be like WAY better than Thunderlord's to justify dropping Precision.
I don't think this is something that can really be fixed by tuning numbers on Deathfire Touch or Thunderlord's. I think they need to add a new keystone that just offers raw damage, and/or possibly combine Deathfire Touch and Thunderlord's into a single matery and leave it in Ferocity.
I think this is the main failure of an otherwise excellent mastery overhaul. The solution might just to make all of the keystones something other than just raw damage.
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With that new AP Jungle item Nidalee should be even better imo. Plus Fiddle might become a terror in Solo Q with that item plus his ult getting a lower CD :o
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Which primarily AD champions can use Precision's magic pen effectively?? Only ones I can think of right now is Jax, Xin kinda, Garen for ult? IDK
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hybrid corki solo lane is a secret OP right now if anyone wants a fun champ to play. Triforce/luden's/cd boots everything else is extraneous lolz.
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On December 10 2015 04:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
hybrid corki solo lane is a secret OP right now if anyone wants a fun champ to play. Triforce/luden's/cd boots everything else is extraneous lolz.
Its been op since ludens echo came out, imo.
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On December 10 2015 04:20 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 04:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
hybrid corki solo lane is a secret OP right now if anyone wants a fun champ to play. Triforce/luden's/cd boots everything else is extraneous lolz. Its been op since ludens echo came out, imo.
You have a very weird definition of op.
Why do you go cd boots and not mpen? Don't you just run scaling cdr on blues and with trinity you get enough cdr?
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On December 10 2015 04:42 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 04:20 iCanada wrote:On December 10 2015 04:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
hybrid corki solo lane is a secret OP right now if anyone wants a fun champ to play. Triforce/luden's/cd boots everything else is extraneous lolz. Its been op since ludens echo came out, imo. You have a very weird definition of op. Why do you go cd boots and not mpen? Don't you just run scaling cdr on blues and with trinity you get enough cdr?
I usually get void staff anyway and cd boots are almost 300 gold cheaper so its a much faster movement speed power spike.
I run flat ad reds flat ap blues for the lvl 1-2 cheese with corki. Q and E hit really hard early. But yea all the OP hybrid stuff in the cunning tree put him over the top now. precision and thunderlords are both really good on him
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On December 10 2015 04:38 JimmiC wrote:
I am in plat promo for my other name and lost once and went back in and didn't have 1 in. Thought it was for all series apparently not to jump leagues.
I think it is only for below Gold I?
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On December 10 2015 05:18 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2015 04:42 nafta wrote:On December 10 2015 04:20 iCanada wrote:On December 10 2015 04:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
hybrid corki solo lane is a secret OP right now if anyone wants a fun champ to play. Triforce/luden's/cd boots everything else is extraneous lolz. Its been op since ludens echo came out, imo. You have a very weird definition of op. Why do you go cd boots and not mpen? Don't you just run scaling cdr on blues and with trinity you get enough cdr? I usually get void staff anyway and cd boots are almost 300 gold cheaper so its a much faster movement speed power spike. I run flat ad reds flat ap blues for the lvl 1-2 cheese with corki. Q and E hit really hard early. But yea all the OP hybrid stuff in the cunning tree put him over the top now. precision and thunderlords are both really good on him
Meh maybe. Sadly haven't really seen anyone play it only seen the er+tf combo and it seems pretty good but hard to compare.
I just love how stupid rengar is with those new masteries. It is just something else when getting armor items doesn't help you survive an ad assassin.
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On December 10 2015 03:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
Corki
Varus
Koogles.
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Can someone explain to me why they fucked up the jungle experience gain and stuff for the pre-season? I get that they wanted to rework the jungle items (again) after spending most of season 4 and season 5 to work on the jungle, but I thought jungle was in a pretty good spot at the end of season 5.
But now whenever I jungle if I don't successfully gank a lane (like get an actual kill) pre-6 I'm so far behind in XP that it takes me the next 4 minutes to catch up in levels to the lane champs.
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On December 10 2015 08:52 Kinie wrote:
Can someone explain to me why they fucked up the jungle experience gain and stuff for the pre-season? I get that they wanted to rework the jungle items (again) after spending most of season 4 and season 5 to work on the jungle, but I thought jungle was in a pretty good spot at the end of season 5.
But now whenever I jungle if I don't successfully gank a lane (like get an actual kill) pre-6 I'm so far behind in XP that it takes me the next 4 minutes to catch up in levels to the lane champs.
It's all about how good you can get that first clear. If you can get a full clear, your xp gain doesn't really drop,, if you can only get a half clear, you absolutely need to get that half clear at a healthy enough level to gank a lane. Watching Rush get full clears with full health is pretty crazy impressive, allowing him to gank after a full clear allows him to get such a massive lead. Work on dat jungling mechanic.
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They only jungle xp change was that you need to get the items. The actual change that matters is kills give more xp. Dunno how you have such issues tbh. Even in games where the jungler is a few kills and 20 cs behind they still are never more than a level behind.
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It feels weird not ganking at level 3 timing-wise, though, but I guess it's on you to pick up the habit.
By full clear, are we talking camp->buff->buff->clear the rest, or camp->buff->camp->buff->finish that side?
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