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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 10 2015 09:32 GMT
#81
It is pretty fucking awful.

Can't wait for the thunderlord nerfs next patch so we move on to the next keystone.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
December 10 2015 10:48 GMT
#82
Are you starting W on Xin? I can full clear every camp with a pot left over. The heal on w really makes a difference.

M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
December 10 2015 10:51 GMT
#83
On December 10 2015 18:32 nafta wrote:
It is pretty fucking awful.

Can't wait for the thunderlord nerfs next patch so we move on to the next keystone.


are the games now with 10 thunderlords?
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 11:29:06
December 10 2015 11:28 GMT
#84
Not 10 but the lowest I have seen is 6 so far.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 10 2015 11:44 GMT
#85
No nerfs on pbe yet.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35126 Posts
December 10 2015 11:50 GMT
#86
That's because the patch just came out yesterday, silly.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 10 2015 14:06 GMT
#87
On December 10 2015 18:09 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2015 10:32 Kinie wrote:
On red side I go Gromp > Blue > Red > Wolves > Raptor > Krugs almost every time.

Sounds like an awful lot of walking to go to red then back to wolves, though.


Yes it is, but the walk is even longer if you go (after taking Red) Raptors > Wolves > Krugs.

The other option (which I've started doing recently on red side) is Wolves third and not smiting, Red fourth and smiting early for HP gain, then rest of the camps before backing.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 10 2015 14:26 GMT
#88
I used to only jungle Sion for a while, then recently I tried some other ones like Gragas and Heca and jesus the first clear is so much harde. Sion I barely need a potion and I end my first clear with full hp. I'm not exactly a seasoned jungler, but I wanted to try something else. what other champs got it easy in terms of clearspeed and sustain/health?
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 14:55:13
December 10 2015 14:49 GMT
#89
Ok just had a 10 thunderlords game. What great mastery balance riot. It's not like anyone who took one look at the changes said this would happen. Oh wait...

Elise/lee/xin/udyr/zac/kindred/quinn/graves/trundle are the ones that spring to mind but there are more just gotta look through the champions
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 15:03:06
December 10 2015 15:02 GMT
#90
So...

If we have Hand of Bullshit, Thunderlord must be like "Balancelord" or something.

I'm pretty convinced that Thunderlord is actually not the problem. Precision is the problem.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 10 2015 15:09 GMT
#91
Trundle would rather get Grasp I think. Precision helps his steroids and armour shred but his shtick is being a slippery tanky fuck who'll steal your stats and ruin your day, not burst you down.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 15:25:32
December 10 2015 15:22 GMT
#92
On December 11 2015 00:02 Ketara wrote:
So...

If we have Hand of Bullshit, Thunderlord must be like "Balancelord" or something.

I'm pretty convinced that Thunderlord is actually not the problem. Precision is the problem.


thunderlords isnt a problem, its just they made every other keystone so shitty that people are taking the cunning tree for precision and thunderlord even when its not a good tree for their champ.

ironically though fervor is even more abusable on trundle now since you dont need to push to activate it.

now you can just freeze waves easily and zone anyone that isnt very strong early. auto bite cancel auto and already 6 stacks LOL. enjoy trundle this patch before he gets turned into galio next patch (strong champ with obscene mana costs if the reference isnt clear)
I come in for the scraps
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 15:37:15
December 10 2015 15:36 GMT
#93
Ten TLD is probably a sign of groupthink more than actual OPness.

For example I don't see enough people taking Grasp of the Bullshit despite it being simultaneously one of the best sustain and damage masteries in lane. On Trundle at level one, it's +15AD and 25% lifesteal for that AA. That's insane! Imagine if the tooltip said, every four seconds, your next AA against a champion is empowered as if you had two Doran's Blades plus the lifesteal of two BotRKs -- at level one!
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 10 2015 15:36 GMT
#94
Well when everything else is garbage compared to them thunderlord actually being useful while not in a tank tree just makes it too good.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 10 2015 15:43 GMT
#95
On December 10 2015 19:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Are you starting W on Xin? I can full clear every camp with a pot left over. The heal on w really makes a difference.



If you're talking to me, I usually start Q level 1 and get W second, but I'm barely any HP down from Gromp. I lose a bit of hp vs. blue so I end up taking scuttler and go wolves > wraith > red. At this point I'm basically full hp, I look for a gank, golem. Then I just back because I want stalkers + boots.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 10 2015 16:08 GMT
#96
On December 11 2015 00:36 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Ten TLD is probably a sign of groupthink more than actual OPness.

For example I don't see enough people taking Grasp of the Bullshit despite it being simultaneously one of the best sustain and damage masteries in lane. On Trundle at level one, it's +15AD and 25% lifesteal for that AA. That's insane! Imagine if the tooltip said, every four seconds, your next AA against a champion is empowered as if you had two Doran's Blades plus the lifesteal of two BotRKs -- at level one!


its because you're biased, trundle and nasus are some of the champs it is extremely good on aka outliers.

very few champs want to go 18 into resolve, its incredibly bad if you arent an auto attacking bruiser.

but yes grasp is pretty much the only good mastery left. but who would ever take that besides top laners and a few junglers..?

Thunderlords is good on everyone and everything, hell i've even seen trundle and nasus' take it and do just fine.

That is the problem.

I come in for the scraps
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 16:30:59
December 10 2015 16:26 GMT
#97
I would totally recommend every jungler take Strength of Ages. The 300 hp is super super good. I'll probably play some Vi and Poppy jungle this evening. What's good for them?

I'm still a little skeptical about the cunning tree, though it's very possible that will change once I bother actually trying it out.

Actually I might go 6/6/18 so I can pick up assassin. On the other hand, I'll miss oppressor. Assassin is 1.5% more dmg (most of the time) and Oppressor is 2.5% when enemies are CC'd. I mean, enemies aren't CC'd a 100% of the time, but they are a lot of the time... the extra 5 damage from the cunning tree is really nice though, so I guess that works out.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-10 16:34:06
December 10 2015 16:28 GMT
#98
People do take it when they are playing tahm/mundo(when the person banning is stupid and they make it to picks) and some others. The problem is with how keystones are made so many people picking this mastery is just an obvious problem.

Or you could just go thunderlord on vi and basically have a 100% kill on ganks you can land your ult on.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
December 10 2015 16:49 GMT
#99
no
On December 11 2015 01:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 00:36 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Ten TLD is probably a sign of groupthink more than actual OPness.

For example I don't see enough people taking Grasp of the Bullshit despite it being simultaneously one of the best sustain and damage masteries in lane. On Trundle at level one, it's +15AD and 25% lifesteal for that AA. That's insane! Imagine if the tooltip said, every four seconds, your next AA against a champion is empowered as if you had two Doran's Blades plus the lifesteal of two BotRKs -- at level one!


its because you're biased, trundle and nasus are some of the champs it is extremely good on aka outliers.

very few champs want to go 18 into resolve, its incredibly bad if you arent an auto attacking bruiser.

but yes grasp is pretty much the only good mastery left. but who would ever take that besides top laners and a few junglers..?

Thunderlords is good on everyone and everything, hell i've even seen trundle and nasus' take it and do just fine.

That is the problem.



Eh. Everyone using the same masteries is the best possible outcome for me given the item changes that make builds actually affect the way the game is played. Totally fine having only champ select and item buying as the only impact choices.
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Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
December 10 2015 17:22 GMT
#100
Febiven's stream is pretty awesome. So glad he is finally on twitch. He for sure knows how to carry soloq games. Anybody know who he is duoing with ? "Godisgreat" is the acc. Does pretty well in the jungle every game I saw so far, then goes randomly top with Riven 16-4 and they win 4on5.
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