EPTCan't wait for the thunderlord nerfs next patch so we move on to the next keystone.
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Can't wait for the thunderlord nerfs next patch so we move on to the next keystone. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4133 Posts
On December 10 2015 18:32 nafta wrote: It is pretty fucking awful. Can't wait for the thunderlord nerfs next patch so we move on to the next keystone. are the games now with 10 thunderlords? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On December 10 2015 18:09 Alaric wrote: Sounds like an awful lot of walking to go to red then back to wolves, though. Yes it is, but the walk is even longer if you go (after taking Red) Raptors > Wolves > Krugs. The other option (which I've started doing recently on red side) is Wolves third and not smiting, Red fourth and smiting early for HP gain, then rest of the camps before backing. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Elise/lee/xin/udyr/zac/kindred/quinn/graves/trundle are the ones that spring to mind but there are more just gotta look through the champions | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
If we have Hand of Bullshit, Thunderlord must be like "Balancelord" or something. I'm pretty convinced that Thunderlord is actually not the problem. Precision is the problem. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On December 11 2015 00:02 Ketara wrote: So... If we have Hand of Bullshit, Thunderlord must be like "Balancelord" or something. I'm pretty convinced that Thunderlord is actually not the problem. Precision is the problem. thunderlords isnt a problem, its just they made every other keystone so shitty that people are taking the cunning tree for precision and thunderlord even when its not a good tree for their champ. ironically though fervor is even more abusable on trundle now since you dont need to push to activate it. now you can just freeze waves easily and zone anyone that isnt very strong early. auto bite cancel auto and already 6 stacks LOL. enjoy trundle this patch before he gets turned into galio next patch (strong champ with obscene mana costs if the reference isnt clear) | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
For example I don't see enough people taking Grasp of the Bullshit despite it being simultaneously one of the best sustain and damage masteries in lane. On Trundle at level one, it's +15AD and 25% lifesteal for that AA. That's insane! Imagine if the tooltip said, every four seconds, your next AA against a champion is empowered as if you had two Doran's Blades plus the lifesteal of two BotRKs -- at level one! | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On December 10 2015 19:48 JonnyLaw wrote: Are you starting W on Xin? I can full clear every camp with a pot left over. The heal on w really makes a difference. If you're talking to me, I usually start Q level 1 and get W second, but I'm barely any HP down from Gromp. I lose a bit of hp vs. blue so I end up taking scuttler and go wolves > wraith > red. At this point I'm basically full hp, I look for a gank, golem. Then I just back because I want stalkers + boots. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On December 11 2015 00:36 GrandInquisitor wrote: Ten TLD is probably a sign of groupthink more than actual OPness. For example I don't see enough people taking Grasp of the Bullshit despite it being simultaneously one of the best sustain and damage masteries in lane. On Trundle at level one, it's +15AD and 25% lifesteal for that AA. That's insane! Imagine if the tooltip said, every four seconds, your next AA against a champion is empowered as if you had two Doran's Blades plus the lifesteal of two BotRKs -- at level one! its because you're biased, trundle and nasus are some of the champs it is extremely good on aka outliers. very few champs want to go 18 into resolve, its incredibly bad if you arent an auto attacking bruiser. but yes grasp is pretty much the only good mastery left. but who would ever take that besides top laners and a few junglers..? Thunderlords is good on everyone and everything, hell i've even seen trundle and nasus' take it and do just fine. That is the problem. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I'm still a little skeptical about the cunning tree, though it's very possible that will change once I bother actually trying it out. Actually I might go 6/6/18 so I can pick up assassin. On the other hand, I'll miss oppressor. Assassin is 1.5% more dmg (most of the time) and Oppressor is 2.5% when enemies are CC'd. I mean, enemies aren't CC'd a 100% of the time, but they are a lot of the time... the extra 5 damage from the cunning tree is really nice though, so I guess that works out. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Or you could just go thunderlord on vi and basically have a 100% kill on ganks you can land your ult on. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
no On December 11 2015 01:08 VayneAuthority wrote: its because you're biased, trundle and nasus are some of the champs it is extremely good on aka outliers. very few champs want to go 18 into resolve, its incredibly bad if you arent an auto attacking bruiser. but yes grasp is pretty much the only good mastery left. but who would ever take that besides top laners and a few junglers..? Thunderlords is good on everyone and everything, hell i've even seen trundle and nasus' take it and do just fine. That is the problem. Eh. Everyone using the same masteries is the best possible outcome for me given the item changes that make builds actually affect the way the game is played. Totally fine having only champ select and item buying as the only impact choices. | ||
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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