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If you've played around on the new patch and have some secret TL-op builds we should try out, post about them here! http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-strategy/498168-patch-522-what-is-marksman-gameplay-discussion
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 05:12:48
November 11 2015 05:10 GMT
#21
That Illaoi champ design seems pretty decent.

Edit : Dragon Trainer Tristana skin, SO AWESOME.
Gragas Caskbreaker and Braum Lionheart, Ryze Whitebeard, kek :D
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 11 2015 05:19 GMT
#22
On November 11 2015 14:10 739 wrote:
That Illaoi champ design seems pretty decent.

Edit : Dragon Trainer Tristana skin, SO AWESOME.
Gragas Caskbreaker and Braum Lionheart, Ryze Whitebeard, kek :D

PBE thread.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
November 11 2015 05:23 GMT
#23
BTW I just went into solo queue and I have gold border. Are new borders not distributed yet and they are displayed from last season or ?
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 11:45:27
November 11 2015 11:42 GMT
#24
I am looking forward to how top lane will work out in competetive now. I really like the idea of the new monster at baron spot. Should make top lane much less isolated. Also this might make ignite in top lane much more attractive. Mid could instead become the stardard tp lane. And mid will be even more about roaming and supporting other lanes.
Then again I wonder how this affects lane swaps. They should become even more frequent now.
Off-season = best season
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 13:05:57
November 11 2015 11:52 GMT
#25
On November 11 2015 14:23 739 wrote:
BTW I just went into solo queue and I have gold border. Are new borders not distributed yet and they are displayed from last season or ?


I think I read somewhere they would distribute end of season rewards by the 17th so they may not be up yet.

EDIT: I got my ranked border
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 11 2015 13:14 GMT
#26
Nightblue currently playing Illaoi on PBE.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
November 11 2015 13:56 GMT
#27
Blue buff giving AP is pretty cool now too.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 11 2015 14:20 GMT
#28
Has the soft reset happened? I'm sitting in a game with 2 silvers, a plat and myself in plat promos. Seems super weird distribution for a ranked game.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 11 2015 16:31 GMT
#29
On November 11 2015 13:48 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 09:43 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On less serious note.

Is there anyone who has maths on lw vs bt as third item on adcs?

Because there was HTC game right now where Ashe went bt third against team, where biggest armor items were hourglass/dmp and no armor besides that, is bt significantly better?

Thanks in advance, mathguys. <3


Lots of things changing so its hard to say. Consider this cursory. With new masteries and 10 AD in runes[this is higher than i think is optimal]

Level 18 Ashe will have about 195 AD with IE, PD and. 20 AD from runes/masteries.

So 265 AD with BT and 235 with Domincks Regards. 50% crit changes this to 463.75/411.25. So NO stacks of the bonus damage mastery leads us to.

411.25(1+armor+.6bonus-.07) = 463.75(1+armor+bonus-.07)

.6BONUS = 52.5/411.25 (1+armor-.07)
-,52765 bonus = 52.5/411.25 (1+armor-.07)
bonus = .22+armor/4.1332583

So it depends on their bonus armor and base armor where LW is better at about a rate of 22 +base armor/4. So at 100 base armor its about 50 Bonus armor.

Same thing again, but now with another 80 damage/hit

bonus =.196+armor/4.742

Or about 40 bonus armor for 100 base armor.

So LW will do more damage on almost everyone who has a single armor item. BT is probably still the better overall buy though, you don't do damage if you're dead.


Thanks a lot.

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 11 2015 16:51 GMT
#30
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 11 2015 16:52 GMT
#31
Yolostar gave support masteries here.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 11 2015 16:57 GMT
#32
game looks different, idk whats changed zoom or graphic but somethings weird
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 11 2015 17:09 GMT
#33
Weren't they gonna change the angle slightly to make it easier to play facing down?
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Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 17:31:31
November 11 2015 17:29 GMT
#34
Quick thoughts on the new patch now that I played a custom game:

1) Feels like the Fervor of Battle mastery is pretty strong: a potential of 10-80 bonus AD on basic attacks on champions combined with the fact that you can stack it on minions with spells or basic attacks makes it relevant from the start of the game. Think this makes it much better than Warlord's bloodlust.

2) The farsight alteration trinket looks pretty broken: not only is it a permanent ward that can be cast safely from 4000 range, there is no limit to how many of these trinket wards you can place. Coupled with its <1 minute cooldown, it means that you could theoretically put defensive wards everywhere in your jungle as well as get some wards in the enemy jungle. And if multiple people on your team gets this trinket and spam it on cooldown, you could constantly force the enemy team to check brushes to clear the wards.
The baylife, it burns!
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 11 2015 18:47 GMT
#35
wow the patch didnt state that graves' attack speed growth is reduced to peanuts lol, but it still kinda fun to play.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
November 11 2015 20:03 GMT
#36
On November 12 2015 02:29 Torchise wrote:
Quick thoughts on the new patch now that I played a custom game:

1) Feels like the Fervor of Battle mastery is pretty strong: a potential of 10-80 bonus AD on basic attacks on champions combined with the fact that you can stack it on minions with spells or basic attacks makes it relevant from the start of the game. Think this makes it much better than Warlord's bloodlust.



It certainly does to me as well. The only saving grace of the other one is that it seems that it will allow you to avoid a lifesteal item and still have powerful sustain. Which means you could go:

Boots
Pick 1: Dominic's Revenge/Mortal Reminder
IE
ER
Pick 2: Phantom Dancer/Static Shiv/Runan's/Rapid Firecannon

And so have 100% crit, 15% effective lifesteal, mana steal, and 30% CDR

If you swap ER for BT you have 80% crit, 20% lifesteal, 0% CDR, +10 AD

Base AD will be about 280-290 so max stack expected damage/attack is

740 for Fervor of Battle
725 for Bloodlust [+20% attack speed] -> 761 Damage per 1 Fervor of battle Attack*

20% attack speed will be at least 5% effective increased attack speed so 725*1.05 = 761. Keep in mind that most AD's will have a good deal more than 5% more effective attack speed so this is a low estimate [Its 5.6% real attack speed for Tristana with her Q active and the most AS from the above items. It puts her up to 2.46 attacks/second! Note that because Kog's W doubles bonus AS and because he has lower raw bonus AS from skills/levels this will increase the effect from this mastery]

So fully lategame the Bloodlust does more damage and has a lot more utility for champions which are stacking crit. They're going to gain 30% CDR and Mana steal and still do more DPS than a fully stacked Fervor

It also means that if you go first item IE you will still get some lifesteal, which makes it a lot easier to farm/play into the lategame.

Fervor however is easily better for on-hit AD's or AS based AD's like Kalista/Vayne/Ezreal/MF and farming champions out of the jungle and maybe graves [who has weaker crit scaling due to how his bullets work but also weaker AS scaling but also i don't know how his bullets interact with on-hit effects]


AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
November 11 2015 20:15 GMT
#37
So anyone wanna feed me some quick OPs? I'm only on Graves hypetrain so far.
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
November 11 2015 20:38 GMT
#38
On November 12 2015 05:15 AlterKot wrote:
So anyone wanna feed me some quick OPs? I'm only on Graves hypetrain so far.

Basically all the old OP's are still OP (think Fiora, GP, sometimes Kindred) plus maybe a few weaker bruisers like Garen?
I'm personally not yet sold on the Graves hypetrain, because when someone is bad on him the champion immediately becomes really bad. Also pretty easily killable if you have a good team for it.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 11 2015 20:42 GMT
#39
fuck me dude, i hate having to learn about new items and masteries and shit. can't wait until i can just copy what all the pros use so i dont have to think about this new shit.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 21:15:43
November 11 2015 21:10 GMT
#40
You can't buy health pots if you have a flask. The fuck is this.

I also get massive lag (I went it, froze for ~20 seconds, rest of the computer was fine, and I had LoL's sound, but the screen was frozen in place), and pathing seems worse.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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