The crit meter still wasn't OP enough to send NA teams out of groups, if they make crits more central to the game then they can make anything possible in competitive!

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

October 29 2015 20:49 GMT

#143

Really dislike the naming. Is that how it's going to be or just fluff names for now?

Frolossus

United States4779 Posts

October 29 2015 21:26 GMT

#144

since i haven't seen this here yet, looks like protect the kog is better than ever

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

October 29 2015 21:31 GMT

#145

I kind of feel like taking away kogs mega range removes something that was core to his identity, but maybe that's just me.

I'd understand the new attackspeed cap on like twitch or something. Maybe itd be too OP on him because stealth.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

October 29 2015 21:36 GMT

#146

rofl

Kontossis

Canada256 Posts

October 29 2015 21:55 GMT

#147

Some thoughts after playing on PBE on a bit:

100% crit is fairly easy to get with IE, Rapid Fire, Shiv, and Essence Reaver. Rapid Fire + Shiv activate together to do around 470 magic attack on a 30 MR target. This also makes Warlord bloodlust to always activate, which gives a free 15% life steal and 20% attack speed at all times.

Quinn's ult at level 16 with alacrity without dragon 3 buff is 750 MS, which is hilariously fast.

Graves feels clunky as hell, has to be changed 100%

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

October 29 2015 22:03 GMT

#148

Rofl those videos that looks like a bad custom mode made by some random guy. Reminds me of wc3 custom maps even more than fucking dota clone.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

October 29 2015 22:11 GMT

#149

Feels like Heroes of the Storm to me. Really weird direction they going or one of those countless anime dota wars maps.

AsmodeusXI

United States15536 Posts

October 29 2015 22:20 GMT

#150

This is some top-notch DotA-patch level shenanigans right here.

Why can't we do this every 6 months?

+ Show Spoiler +

Seriously this goofy shit is going to be so much fun. No one is going to know how to play this game anymore.

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

October 29 2015 22:21 GMT

#151

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Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

October 29 2015 22:24 GMT

#152

On October 30 2015 07:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:
This is some top-notch DotA-patch level shenanigans right here.

Why can't we do this every 6 months?

+ Show Spoiler +

Seriously this goofy shit is going to be so much fun. No one is going to know how to play this game anymore.

Yea shit this is like the lotus orb/Mango patch. Crazy random shit. Kind of hope it isn't only the ADC though. Find them so boring lol.

NpG)Explosive

France994 Posts

October 29 2015 22:47 GMT

#153

On October 30 2015 06:31 Ketara wrote:
I kind of feel like taking away kogs mega range removes something that was core to his identity, but maybe that's just me.

I'd understand the new attackspeed cap on like twitch or something. Maybe itd be too OP on him because stealth.

Did they really remove kog's range? I didn't see it mentionned anywhere.

Amarok

Australia2003 Posts

October 29 2015 22:49 GMT

#154

I know they've said P/B is changing but there's no way the current draft system would work with such crazy stuff in the game.

Harem

United States11393 Posts

October 29 2015 23:20 GMT

#155

On October 30 2015 07:47 NpG)Explosive wrote:

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Did they really remove kog's range? I didn't see it mentionned anywhere.

watching geranimo play him on pbe, apparently they gave back the mana cost to his w

On October 30 2015 07:24 Numy wrote:

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Yea shit this is like the lotus orb/Mango patch. Crazy random shit. Kind of hope it isn't only the ADC though. Find them so boring lol.

They also nerfed ap itemization a lot too ie removed armor and ap from zhonyas, increased cost of all the items etc. Deathcap now costs 3800 wtf

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

October 30 2015 00:20 GMT

#156

If anybody finds a pbe mastery calculator, link me please.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 30 2015 00:26 GMT

#157

I don't get why essence reaver is supposed to be for caster Ads and requires auto attacks to actually restore mana. and the item still has no mana return until completed, I just don't think Riot understands whats wrong with the item.

I mean going up to 30% cdr now will make it used a bit I'm sure, but for it to do what they say they want it to do, it needs to be more like manamune

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

October 30 2015 00:32 GMT

#158

This kind of change annoys me because it removes a strategic choice. Before we'd see teams, well mainly in Korea, rush homeguards early in order to get teleport engages. This seems to just remove that option and give it out at 20m arbitrarily.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

October 30 2015 00:59 GMT

#159

I would rather it was rolled into other t3 boots, because I felt like they all made sense for certain heroes if you took out home guard, this fixes that problem but takes out upgrade timing as a choice.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

October 30 2015 01:03 GMT

#160

I think they had a problem where they liked homeguard as a mechanic, but it was too much better than the other boots choices and it was too hard to balance.

For two seasons none of the other boots upgrades ever really got used more than on rare occasions to debatable effect.

People use distortion on Annie and occasionally alacrity on adcs and other than that its all homeguard for everyone all the time.