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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 08 2015 10:32 Frolossus wrote: what's wrong with it other than the obvious lack of elo display? That's pretty much the entire system. Either get rid of division/tiers or matchmake based off of them. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 08 2015 10:36 Gahlo wrote: That's pretty much the entire system. Either get rid of division/tiers or matchmake based off of them. Either of those things seems kind of bad. Even back in the ELO days there were teirs (albeit at the end) | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 08 2015 10:56 Goumindong wrote: Either of those things seems kind of bad. Even back in the ELO days there were teirs (albeit at the end) Yes, but at least those tiers reflected where you were at that time. | ||
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Mensol
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 08 2015 11:40 JimmiC wrote: It's pretty easy to figure out you Elo. Just check lol nexus and see what players you are generally playing against. And unless you play no games, or go on some crazy streak its going to be pretty close to what div your in. This is just a classic looking for something to complain about. Just like when hud changed and people were going to quit. And now it's fine. It is also another way for people to think they are way better them the div they are in. Except this system has been garbage since it was implemented. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 08 2015 11:47 Gahlo wrote: Except this system has been garbage since it was implemented. Your second suggestion makes me think that you either don't understand the system or are one of those people who think they're in ELO hell | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 08 2015 11:48 Goumindong wrote: Your second suggestion makes me think that you either don't understand the system or are one of those people who think they're in ELO hell Neither. Thanks for continuing to be a condescending asshole though. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
Now, I don't really care. It doesn't really make a difference. The matchmaker algorithm is always going to stay hidden so people can't game the system. My performance is really the only constant and as long as I know I'm performing well or better, then I'm happy. The one thing that would be nice to change would be the promo matches. They're arbitrary obstacles that prevent the cream from rising to the top. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On September 08 2015 13:46 MooMooMugi wrote: I just want a system where you dont lose -70LP after losing your bo5 promos and have to regain 70LP + win 3 matches in a row ontop of clamping queue dodge more to avoid clamping | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On September 08 2015 12:26 Goumindong wrote: I wonder if the system was the same as it was now, but instead of LP you just were in the division and promoted when you promoted, people would like it better I would, at least. I know it should average out over time and a large number of games, but as someone who doesn't play very much at all, I'm probably only going to be in like 2-3 promotion series per year, so those games have a disproportionately massive impact. I don't really care about the ranking myself though, and don't feel as though I should be higher, so it doesn't actually affect me I guess. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On September 08 2015 14:03 JimmiC wrote: I dunno I have not found it that bad to move up. I think it's kinda exaggerated. Like if you lose a couple promo's but your really better and just have bad luck in those you get right back in them. It's only if you lose like 3 straight with really bad kda that you fall hard. What I do think is funny is that people use the same insult but change up a word in each division. In silver they call u bronze, in gold they call you silver and in plat gold. And it's all meant to be really cutting. Which I find hilarious. I'm not sure if diamond call people plat but sadly I don't think I'll ever get to find that one out =-) I thought that KDA has nothing to do with MMR/LP gains/losses, the game only takes into consideration the outcome of the game and team average MMR. I mean, you just have to look at my own games, losing with a 3 KDA makes no difference to losing with a 0.5 KDA in your LP loss. Which is good because sometimes you get stomped no matter how good you are (afk, troll, someone fed kata hard) and you shouldn't lose more because of it.] queue dodge more to avoid clamping I'm convinced that I only get feeders and flamers in my promo games. The hidden troll is the deadliest, and having someone duo with their 45% winrate gold buddy while your trying to get into Plat 2 is hell. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 08 2015 12:05 krndandaman wrote: just make it more fluid between divisions (no promos + easy to demote/promote between divisions) and i'm gucci don't really care too much about elo since you get a general feel of where you're at anyways after enough games Yea I'm with you on this. ELO while pretty good is kind of misleading if you don't know how it works(Majority of people). This system would be fine if they got rid of the promotions. I have no idea why they decided to put that shit in. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
It's still better than Elo. If people understood the system and allowed for variance, it'd be perfect. But it's underexplained and trying to tell people that Gold V guy in your Silver II game isn't any better than you are and probably isn't the reason you lost doesn't work. | ||
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