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[Patch 5.17] League of Legends General Discussion

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-02 00:45:54
September 01 2015 22:40 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread. While posting standards tend to be rather lax in this thread, pointless spam will not be tolerated.

Gameplay discussion should go in the Patch Discussion thread.

Non-League of Legends dicsussion should go in the LiquidLegends Lounge.

Certain topics are blacklisted from LoL General Discussion and they include:
  • "Elo hell"
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Additionally, the TL LoL Ten Commandments are available for you to reference if you have any questions about this subforum.

Use the LoL Strategy subforum if you have game or champion specific questions. Lastly, confine QQing and bragging to their respective threads.

There is no new champion this patch.

Patch 5.17: Live on Sept. 2nd, 2015

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Patch 5.16
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 01 2015 23:09 GMT
#2
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
September 01 2015 23:15 GMT
#3
On September 02 2015 08:09 JimmiC wrote:
Pretty reasonable patch overall. Nice to see. I tend to ban things I don't playing with or against then things I think are op, these days

Part of Riot's rational on 16 being so big was so that 17 and 18 would fine tune the bumps.

Really happy to see them tweaking Warrior junglers, it's long over due. Especially Pantheon.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
September 02 2015 00:24 GMT
#4
they didn't even give pantheon back half of the aspd they took away so long ago

bastards!

:O
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 02 2015 00:38 GMT
#5
The LoL Strategy link in the OP is broken
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 02 2015 00:46 GMT
#6
Such QA.
Ty Scip.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
September 02 2015 00:47 GMT
#7
Yet again Riot's nerfing Rek'Sai after she's fallen to B tier jungler status. I don't really get why, either.

Other than that, most everything else in here makes sense, though if there's no nerfs to Skarner or Morde in 5.18, Worlds meta is going to be pretty weird...
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 02 2015 00:58 GMT
#8
WAIT THEY FUCKING NERFED REKSAI AGAIN?

"Ever the professional staple, Rek’Sai is a character who feels desynced in terms of strength."

WHAT DOES THIS SENTENCE EVEN MEAN FUCKING RIOT

Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
September 02 2015 01:07 GMT
#9
I mean, there's a sentence right after that that explains what they mean.
XDG Mata
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 02 2015 01:11 GMT
#10
I understand what they think about reksai, I don't understand what "being desynced" means.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 02 2015 01:28 GMT
#11
On September 02 2015 10:11 AlterKot wrote:
I understand what they think about reksai, I don't understand what "being desynced" means.

In context it appears to be the same complaint they have with aura items.
Freeeeeeedom
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-02 01:32:10
September 02 2015 01:31 GMT
#12
Riot doesn't know how to balance her because it's a bruiser/brawler champion with a global ult that lets her get from one side of the map to another in under 4s. That's part of the reason why you saw her being played in top with Flash and TP; she'd be a great split push threat and can still be around for teamfights with TP, then go back to split pushing with a tunnel in the lane she was just at with her ult.

The other champions with a global ult are balanced with their ultimates in mind for affecting team fights, and Riot hasn't figured that out with hers just yet.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
September 02 2015 01:35 GMT
#13
Basically, she has a lot of intangible power (vision and jungle mobility letting her be at the right place), which feels separate from champ power level that you can feel (damage/CC/global ult. They put global ult as invisible power but that's bullshit.) Leading to a feeling that she's not as strong as she probably actually is. They're probably not that sure of how strong she actually is because of the power of her vision, hence why this change is pretty small.
XDG Mata
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
September 02 2015 01:44 GMT
#14
C9, fnatic and TSM all in Korea. CLG is going to be there in three days i think.

Korea getting dominated by western teams
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
September 02 2015 01:48 GMT
#15
On September 02 2015 10:44 Mensol wrote:
C9, fnatic and TSM all in Korea. CLG is going to be there in three days i think.

Korea getting dominated by western teams

http://www.trackingthepros.com/bootcamp
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
September 02 2015 01:51 GMT
#16
On September 02 2015 10:48 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 10:44 Mensol wrote:
C9, fnatic and TSM all in Korea. CLG is going to be there in three days i think.

Korea getting dominated by western teams

http://www.trackingthepros.com/bootcamp

the fuck Santorin is already in master league.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
September 02 2015 01:52 GMT
#17
On September 02 2015 10:51 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 10:48 Gahlo wrote:
On September 02 2015 10:44 Mensol wrote:
C9, fnatic and TSM all in Korea. CLG is going to be there in three days i think.

Korea getting dominated by western teams

http://www.trackingthepros.com/bootcamp

the fuck Santorin is already in master league.

He's been bodying.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 02 2015 02:18 GMT
#18
On September 02 2015 10:31 Kinie wrote:
Riot doesn't know how to balance her because it's a bruiser/brawler champion with a global ult that lets her get from one side of the map to another in under 4s. That's part of the reason why you saw her being played in top with Flash and TP; she'd be a great split push threat and can still be around for teamfights with TP, then go back to split pushing with a tunnel in the lane she was just at with her ult.

The other champions with a global ult are balanced with their ultimates in mind for affecting team fights, and Riot hasn't figured that out with hers just yet.


I think, also, that they dont really understand how effective the Prayseeker+Tremors combo is for not facechecking. That passive shouldn't have a skillshot with greater range than Kass E in the same kit, and maybe none at all.
Freeeeeeedom
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 02 2015 02:19 GMT
#19
Pretty small nerfs on everyone but I really wanted to see Morde/Garen/Darius/Fiora nerfed a little bit more
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Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
September 02 2015 02:42 GMT
#20
Meddler recently wrote on the boards that Riot is looking into possibly nerfing devourer. For the champs it's good on, it's pretty retarded. I started playing Xin because I've seen him in a few games completely hard carry with it.

Xin is just so strong right now. His clear is so ridiculously safe, his ganks are obviously hashtag dope, he basically 2 shots anyone late game while building mostly tank, and when he gets a few levels in E his clear is pretty fast. What surprised me the most was his first clear. By taking W first and running an ADC runepage with AS quints, I can do a full clear, only use one pot, and still be close to full HP.
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