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On September 15 2015 14:37 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote: i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all. just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him. What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses. maybe because shitting on people constantly doesn't make them play better?
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On September 15 2015 14:42 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 14:37 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote: i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all. just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him. What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses. maybe because shitting on people constantly doesn't make them play better?
Why do I care if he plays better? I am interested in making an accurate evaluation of them.
Also, sometimes it does, its called bulletin board material, and all the greats, and even most of the goods use it.
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On September 15 2015 14:44 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 14:42 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:37 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote: i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all. just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him. What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses. maybe because shitting on people constantly doesn't make them play better? Why do I care if he plays better? I am interested in making an accurate evaluation of them. Also, sometimes it does, its called bulletin board material, and all the greats, and even most of the goods use it. yeah no, the social pressure on these guys is massive. it's pathetic that coaches and managers have to tell their players not to look at social media because of how much they are criticized and insulted.
all this event has done is create a bad image for esports.
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On September 15 2015 15:34 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 14:44 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 14:42 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:37 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote: i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all. just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him. What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses. maybe because shitting on people constantly doesn't make them play better? Why do I care if he plays better? I am interested in making an accurate evaluation of them. Also, sometimes it does, its called bulletin board material, and all the greats, and even most of the goods use it. yeah no, the social pressure on these guys is massive. it's pathetic that coaches and managers have to tell their players not to look at social media because of how much they are criticized and insulted. all this event has done is create a bad image for esports. Yea, totally, like how people hating Lebron and the Heat was bad for the NBA. Particularly how many fans they lost because of people shitting on him for not playing in the post during thier loss to the Mavs.
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balls has a friend who has nearly the same name as him
he thought it was funny when people go wtf 2 balls? as they used to play together a lot
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On September 15 2015 15:34 Frolossus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 14:44 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 14:42 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:37 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote: i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all. just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him. What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses. maybe because shitting on people constantly doesn't make them play better? Why do I care if he plays better? I am interested in making an accurate evaluation of them. Also, sometimes it does, its called bulletin board material, and all the greats, and even most of the goods use it. yeah no, the social pressure on these guys is massive. it's pathetic that coaches and managers have to tell their players not to look at social media because of how much they are criticized and insulted. all this event has done is create a bad image for esports.
If you choose to be a public figure by being a pro gamer, you accept the 'social pressure' as part of your job. Every public figure gets criticized and insulted every day, and they either learn to deal with it or prevent themselves from knowing about it. If the players can't deal with it, then the coach has to deal with it. It's not pathetic in any sense, it's just part of the job.
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On September 15 2015 18:04 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 15:34 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:44 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 14:42 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:37 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote: i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all. just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him. What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses. maybe because shitting on people constantly doesn't make them play better? Why do I care if he plays better? I am interested in making an accurate evaluation of them. Also, sometimes it does, its called bulletin board material, and all the greats, and even most of the goods use it. yeah no, the social pressure on these guys is massive. it's pathetic that coaches and managers have to tell their players not to look at social media because of how much they are criticized and insulted. all this event has done is create a bad image for esports. If you choose to be a public figure by being a pro gamer, you accept the 'social pressure' as part of your job. Every public figure gets criticized and insulted every day, and they either learn to deal with it or prevent themselves from knowing about it. If the players can't deal with it, then the coach has to deal with it. It's not pathetic in any sense, it's just part of the job.
Truth. ESPN has 40 hours of this a day just between their two main channels.
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On September 15 2015 18:06 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 18:04 gobbledydook wrote:On September 15 2015 15:34 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:44 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 14:42 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:37 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote: i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all. just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him. What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses. maybe because shitting on people constantly doesn't make them play better? Why do I care if he plays better? I am interested in making an accurate evaluation of them. Also, sometimes it does, its called bulletin board material, and all the greats, and even most of the goods use it. yeah no, the social pressure on these guys is massive. it's pathetic that coaches and managers have to tell their players not to look at social media because of how much they are criticized and insulted. all this event has done is create a bad image for esports. If you choose to be a public figure by being a pro gamer, you accept the 'social pressure' as part of your job. Every public figure gets criticized and insulted every day, and they either learn to deal with it or prevent themselves from knowing about it. If the players can't deal with it, then the coach has to deal with it. It's not pathetic in any sense, it's just part of the job. Truth. ESPN has 40 hours of this a day just between their two main channels. ESPN is actually just 40 hours of sucking lebron's dick
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On September 15 2015 22:11 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 18:06 JonnyLaw wrote:On September 15 2015 18:04 gobbledydook wrote:On September 15 2015 15:34 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:44 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 14:42 Frolossus wrote:On September 15 2015 14:37 cLutZ wrote:On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote: i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all. just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him. What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses. maybe because shitting on people constantly doesn't make them play better? Why do I care if he plays better? I am interested in making an accurate evaluation of them. Also, sometimes it does, its called bulletin board material, and all the greats, and even most of the goods use it. yeah no, the social pressure on these guys is massive. it's pathetic that coaches and managers have to tell their players not to look at social media because of how much they are criticized and insulted. all this event has done is create a bad image for esports. If you choose to be a public figure by being a pro gamer, you accept the 'social pressure' as part of your job. Every public figure gets criticized and insulted every day, and they either learn to deal with it or prevent themselves from knowing about it. If the players can't deal with it, then the coach has to deal with it. It's not pathetic in any sense, it's just part of the job. Truth. ESPN has 40 hours of this a day just between their two main channels. ESPN is actually just 40 hours of sucking lebron's dick
I think the Kobe era was worse. Their butts must have had Krazyglue on it how well they rode him.
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How many games has balls played in Korea? I recall a league board thread complaining about the same thing for santorin when he was, essentially, just out of placements.
Has balls played enough SOLOQUEUE to have such an expectation?
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He has played the most out of any pro in Korea, except HuHi but he already had an account there. He has 215 games played, Febiven is Challenger 700 LP with 154 played.
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While getting as high as febiven requires quite a bit of luck it is quite obvious balls is just not good of a player. Been true for a year now anyway. Offseason and waiting for worlds in league are so fucking awful
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yea tbh the entire thing is a bit irrelevant when Balls was already a known stuggler based on his performance this year.
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There's plenty of DotA atm, it all coincides well!
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Faker Yasuo on the bootcamp stream I linked earlier this page.
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On September 16 2015 02:24 nafta wrote: While getting as high as febiven requires quite a bit of luck it is quite obvious balls is just not good of a player. Been true for a year now anyway. Offseason and waiting for worlds in league are so fucking awful Not to mention that Febi's been duoing like crazy with Rekkles last I checked. Granted, both of them are better players than Balls are, but it helps.
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