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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14215 Posts
September 14 2015 21:18 GMT
#461
I'm sorry I ment top lane.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#462
On September 15 2015 06:04 kongoline wrote:
is steraks gage good? i built this item once and didnt really feel its worth it over randuin or other tank item


I'm thinking the new Juggernaut items are actually pretty well designed-- they *look* good but really only shine on certain champs. Sterak's is really nice on Zac and Cinderhulk champs from my xp, seems like a good fit for some melees who use Sheen as well. Maybe Ekko, idk though.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 14 2015 21:33 GMT
#463
If Mundo used the stats better, the passive on Sterak's could be absurdly good on him, since it'd basically remove the cases where you can burst him hard enough that even if he ults you can finish him off before it heals him enough.
That's paying a lot for just some HP considering how little he gets to auto though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 21:39:48
September 14 2015 21:39 GMT
#464
if you dont build triforce, dont build steraks. if you do, consider it. thats the gist of the item. its probably the most boring of the new items since its very linear. Without the 25% triforce increase its a really generic health/ad item.
I come in for the scraps
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 21:45:42
September 14 2015 21:45 GMT
#465
Sterak's is efficient on anyone with primarily total AD ratios and is also great for 1v1s when you're primarily building health. It's underbought, but so are Titanic, Liandry's, DMP, and a lot of other new/updated items.
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 21:57:12
September 14 2015 21:48 GMT
#466
On September 15 2015 06:45 Caiada wrote:
Sterak's is efficient on anyone with primarily total AD ratios and is also great for 1v1s when you're primarily building health. It's underbought, but so are Titanic, Liandry's, DMP, and a lot of other new/updated items.

No, it's not. Most champions do not get enough AD out of it even with total AD ratios. It just doesn't give enough AD unless you also have hilarious base AD or have triforce.

Edit: the average ad champion is going to have 100'AD at level 18 and 90 at level 17. Call it 110/100 for non juggernaut bruiser (pre juggernauts the highest base AD at 18 was like 120). If you have 100 base AD then you get a pickaxe worth of AD from Steraks. The highest this becomes is like 37.5 AD for Morde at level 18.

So if you don't have Triforce you simply can't get more out of it than building towards titanic or black cleaver. Both of which will give you more AD all the time and more HP. (Minus the passive shield) plus other advantages like CDR and shred or an AA reset.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 14 2015 22:03 GMT
#467
I doubt DMP is underbought.

Sterak's shield triggers based on a flat amount of health lost, so either you've got a medium health pool and it basically buys you a few seconds before you die because it triggers while you're very low (think 1.5k HP midgame into 2.5k HP lategame), or you've got a big health pool and it can allow you to escape burst then reenter the fight with a decent health pool instead of having to leave it altogether.

In the first case it's for "anticarries"-type champions (so generally assassins, or bruisers like Jax/Renekton/J4 who elect to go full damage), buying you some more time/surviving the peeling cc-lock so you can kill your target, then maybe clean up or escape.
In the second case it's for champions with HP buffers or high sustain (HP shields, regen, etc.) who can use the passive as a "free" HP buffer to negate/reduce the initial burst of damage, then be too healthy to take down when they move back into the fray. But most of them don't use the AD stats well so it's awkward.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 14 2015 22:55 GMT
#468
You know what would be funny? No one wants the TiP/Dig teams, Riot's esports bubble bursts, then all LoL players converts to play Half Life 3.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 14 2015 23:22 GMT
#469
With all the C9 Ball's controversies, I can't find his account on NA except this one: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19238304

which has a grand total of 13 games played this season. Either he has a hidden account which he plays solo queue with or he doesn't play any solo queue.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 14 2015 23:24 GMT
#470
He streamed a bit this season. That's not the account.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 14 2015 23:27 GMT
#471
Big huevos in challenger is balls
Carrilord has arrived.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 14 2015 23:32 GMT
#472
On September 15 2015 08:22 Sufficiency wrote:
With all the C9 Ball's controversies, I can't find his account on NA except this one: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19238304

which has a grand total of 13 games played this season. Either he has a hidden account which he plays solo queue with or he doesn't play any solo queue.

i'd assume that every pro has at least 2 or 3 accounts that they play on.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 14 2015 23:38 GMT
#473
On September 15 2015 08:27 Slusher wrote:
Big huevos in challenger is balls


I can't find this player...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 14 2015 23:47 GMT
#474
On September 15 2015 08:22 Sufficiency wrote:
With all the C9 Ball's controversies, I can't find his account on NA except this one: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19238304

which has a grand total of 13 games played this season. Either he has a hidden account which he plays solo queue with or he doesn't play any solo queue.

Jatt's comments were about Korean soloqueue.
Writer@WriterYamato
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 14 2015 23:49 GMT
#475
On September 15 2015 08:38 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 08:27 Slusher wrote:
Big huevos in challenger is balls


I can't find this player...

Literally put "Big Huevos" into Google and it's the first god damn result.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/44989299
Sufficiency plz.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 14 2015 23:51 GMT
#476
i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all.
just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 15 2015 00:06 GMT
#477
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 15 2015 03:45 GMT
#478
Crucially he was demoted twice from d1 to d2
Carrilord has arrived.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2015 04:41 GMT
#479
I mean his champ pool is completely outdated. rumble, maokai, gnar, hecarim, vlad, etc are all decent picks but by no means top tier. and hes not even that amazing on any of them so its a double negative. He can't play carry ad bruisers which is what is in right now. I expect a big showing from zionspartan at worlds as far as western tops go
I come in for the scraps
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 15 2015 05:37 GMT
#480
On September 15 2015 08:51 Frolossus wrote:
i feel like it's unjustified to talk shit about balls in kr solo queue UNLESS he is incapable of pulling up to challenger at all.
just because it takes longer, i don't think he needs the added pressure the community just put on him.

What? Why? I mean, I suppose if it was Coco or Faker or imp or Meiko or TNT people would be able to say "well, he seems really good in pro games, something just must not translate" or if it was Hai or Lemon or nRated they could say "well this guy is known more for his mind, and that is harder to translate to soloQ". Balls is known for looking like shit in pro games, and is not the primary or even secondary shotcaller on his team. Him performing poorly in soloQ is a glimpse into the reasons for his observed massive falloff in skill, with no plausible excuses.
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