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On October 08 2014 23:10 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 23:05 Sufficiency wrote:On October 08 2014 21:00 Numy wrote:On October 08 2014 20:59 Sufficiency wrote: The original Karma was one of the worst champions in the game. There was even a team comp that involved her in the game. Hardly one of the worst, she wasn't great but not terrible either. There were far worse heroes in the game. Not worst in terms of power. Worst in terms of design. And how do you judge that, o great Sufficiency?
Her playstyle involves mostly just oneshotting the wave with R'E + Q and baiting people with her passive. She can't actually do much beyond that.
It's kind of like AP Yi, but less dangerous and just as frustrating.
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Don't see what was so bad about old Karma. Half-ultimate was was a neat mechanic. She actually felt quite strong when you had decent gold and a strong melee carry to support. Her problem was she played a support role while still relying on gold, and she lacked a game changer like Orianna (who is otherwise similar).
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 08 2014 23:27 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 23:10 Scip wrote:On October 08 2014 23:05 Sufficiency wrote:On October 08 2014 21:00 Numy wrote:On October 08 2014 20:59 Sufficiency wrote: The original Karma was one of the worst champions in the game. There was even a team comp that involved her in the game. Hardly one of the worst, she wasn't great but not terrible either. There were far worse heroes in the game. Not worst in terms of power. Worst in terms of design. And how do you judge that, o great Sufficiency? Her playstyle involves mostly just oneshotting the wave with R'E + Q and baiting people with her passive. She can't actually do much beyond that. It's kind of like AP Yi, but less dangerous and just as frustrating. And, you know, healing peoples in fights like a beast and shielding and speeding them with maybe some room for creative positioning, but nevermind that.
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She was clearly designed as a support, but she sucked at it. When she was accidentally found to be a toxic mid laner and she was very toxic for the role. She put mindless lane shove to a brand new level.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Damn, so toxic. Toxic Karma so toxic middle laner, bad design and toxic.
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Old karma did have that cool wisp tether though.
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On October 08 2014 23:59 Scip wrote: Damn, so toxic. Toxic Karma so toxic middle laner, bad design and toxic.
But Toxic Toxic Toxic, if Toxic then Toxic Toxic Toxic Toxic?
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Can toxic now be one of those new words where you can have the same word repeated over and over to still form a sentence?
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What is all this this stuff with Jungle changing on the PBE? Can they go one season without fucking with it?
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Are we so void of discussion that we're bringing up the merits of a rework from March 2013?
On October 09 2014 00:19 Requizen wrote: What is all this this stuff with Jungle changing on the PBE? Can they go one season without fucking with it? No, Riot has no clue what it's doing in the jungle. They build up this new vision of an ideal situation they want, then later decide it isn't what they want anymore, tear is down, and wait for the offseason to try again.
You know, like a woman.
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On October 09 2014 00:22 Gahlo wrote:Are we so void of discussion that we're bringing up the merits of a rework from March 2013? Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 00:19 Requizen wrote: What is all this this stuff with Jungle changing on the PBE? Can they go one season without fucking with it? No, Riot has no clue what it's doing in the jungle. They build up this new vision of an ideal situation they want, then later decide it isn't what they want anymore, tear is down, and wait for the offseason to try again. You know, like a woman. huh? like an amazon woman setting up the jungle?
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On October 09 2014 00:22 Gahlo wrote:Are we so void of discussion that we're bringing up the merits of a rework from March 2013? Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 00:19 Requizen wrote: What is all this this stuff with Jungle changing on the PBE? Can they go one season without fucking with it? No, Riot has no clue what it's doing in the jungle. They build up this new vision of an ideal situation they want, then later decide it isn't what they want anymore, tear is down, and wait for the offseason to try again. You know, like a woman. and who says sexism isn't prevalent in gaming?
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
I don't even know if that's sexist. That's just nonsensical. It's like saying you can never plug your USB stick into your computer right the first time because you're black.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 09 2014 00:42 GrandInquisitor wrote: I don't even know if that's sexist. That's just nonsensical. It's like saying you can never plug your USB stick into your computer right the first time because you're black. I think you're forgetting the fact that everything is sexism and the fault of patriarchy, an easy mistake to make.
If we didn't have patriarchy Riot would stop changing the jungle every season.
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Come on now Gahlo, the gender shot isn't necessary.
I an annoyed that I apparently have to totally relearn the game next session, but whatever. Might be good, might be bad.
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On October 09 2014 00:44 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 00:42 GrandInquisitor wrote: I don't even know if that's sexist. That's just nonsensical. It's like saying you can never plug your USB stick into your computer right the first time because you're black. I think you're forgetting the fact that everything is sexism and the fault of patriarchy, an easy mistake to make. cis euro male scum.
The only thing that bugs me about jungle changes is that it's always the same type of heroes that end up being played again despite them changing it a million times.
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On October 09 2014 00:44 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 00:42 GrandInquisitor wrote: I don't even know if that's sexist. That's just nonsensical. It's like saying you can never plug your USB stick into your computer right the first time because you're black. I think you're forgetting the fact that everything is sexism and the fault of patriarchy, an easy mistake to make. If we didn't have patriarchy Riot would stop changing the jungle every season. No that's Obama, you're mixing it up again :/
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So this is what being a euro feels like.
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On October 09 2014 00:55 Gahlo wrote: So this is what being a euro feels like. Do you also have a smug sense of superiority because you talked about a touchy subject?
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