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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 08 2014 21:17 GMT
#1541
On October 09 2014 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 05:49 Alaric wrote:
It aims at keeping the same average damage while removing the extremes, so don't expect to truck people with it I'd say.

Aside from CD buff, the actually ability is a nerf. There's less "clutch"-ness in it. It's not like people actually used it for MA DAMAGES, mostly used for slow field. Clutch lucky extreme hits, were amazing comeback teamfight mechanic though. (which was necessary, since picking GP meant that you were probably losing in the first place).

They're not removing the slow, are they?
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 08 2014 21:21 GMT
#1542
On October 09 2014 06:17 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 05:49 Alaric wrote:
It aims at keeping the same average damage while removing the extremes, so don't expect to truck people with it I'd say.

Aside from CD buff, the actually ability is a nerf. There's less "clutch"-ness in it. It's not like people actually used it for MA DAMAGES, mostly used for slow field. Clutch lucky extreme hits, were amazing comeback teamfight mechanic though. (which was necessary, since picking GP meant that you were probably losing in the first place).

They're not removing the slow, are they?

No, they're just removing the "WTF I JUST GOT HIT BY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CANNON BALL, AND 2K MAGIC DMG"
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 08 2014 21:22 GMT
#1543
Eh, then it's fine imo. Better for securing those <100HP kills that always eluded the randomness before.
It's your boy Guzma!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 08 2014 21:23 GMT
#1544
On October 09 2014 06:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 06:17 Requizen wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 05:49 Alaric wrote:
It aims at keeping the same average damage while removing the extremes, so don't expect to truck people with it I'd say.

Aside from CD buff, the actually ability is a nerf. There's less "clutch"-ness in it. It's not like people actually used it for MA DAMAGES, mostly used for slow field. Clutch lucky extreme hits, were amazing comeback teamfight mechanic though. (which was necessary, since picking GP meant that you were probably losing in the first place).

They're not removing the slow, are they?

No, they're just removing the "WTF I JUST GOT HIT BY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CANNON BALL, AND 2K MAGIC DMG"

If you think that's a bad thing then you are crazy.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 08 2014 21:25 GMT
#1545
It's definitely a buff to anyone not randomly using the ult hoping to get lucky.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 08 2014 21:25 GMT
#1546
On October 09 2014 06:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 06:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:17 Requizen wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 05:49 Alaric wrote:
It aims at keeping the same average damage while removing the extremes, so don't expect to truck people with it I'd say.

Aside from CD buff, the actually ability is a nerf. There's less "clutch"-ness in it. It's not like people actually used it for MA DAMAGES, mostly used for slow field. Clutch lucky extreme hits, were amazing comeback teamfight mechanic though. (which was necessary, since picking GP meant that you were probably losing in the first place).

They're not removing the slow, are they?

No, they're just removing the "WTF I JUST GOT HIT BY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CANNON BALL, AND 2K MAGIC DMG"

If you think that's a bad thing then you are crazy.

It's a comeback mechanic for a champion that has a lot other problems.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 08 2014 21:26 GMT
#1547
On October 09 2014 06:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 06:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:17 Requizen wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 05:49 Alaric wrote:
It aims at keeping the same average damage while removing the extremes, so don't expect to truck people with it I'd say.

Aside from CD buff, the actually ability is a nerf. There's less "clutch"-ness in it. It's not like people actually used it for MA DAMAGES, mostly used for slow field. Clutch lucky extreme hits, were amazing comeback teamfight mechanic though. (which was necessary, since picking GP meant that you were probably losing in the first place).

They're not removing the slow, are they?

No, they're just removing the "WTF I JUST GOT HIT BY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CANNON BALL, AND 2K MAGIC DMG"

If you think that's a bad thing then you are crazy.

It's a comeback mechanic for a champion that has a lot other problems.

Randomness is not a comeback mechanic.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 08 2014 21:27 GMT
#1548
On October 09 2014 06:26 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 06:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:17 Requizen wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 05:49 Alaric wrote:
It aims at keeping the same average damage while removing the extremes, so don't expect to truck people with it I'd say.

Aside from CD buff, the actually ability is a nerf. There's less "clutch"-ness in it. It's not like people actually used it for MA DAMAGES, mostly used for slow field. Clutch lucky extreme hits, were amazing comeback teamfight mechanic though. (which was necessary, since picking GP meant that you were probably losing in the first place).

They're not removing the slow, are they?

No, they're just removing the "WTF I JUST GOT HIT BY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CANNON BALL, AND 2K MAGIC DMG"

If you think that's a bad thing then you are crazy.

It's a comeback mechanic for a champion that has a lot other problems.

Randomness is not a comeback mechanic.

It sort of is.
liftlift > tsm
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 08 2014 21:29 GMT
#1549
On October 09 2014 06:25 Osmoses wrote:
It's definitely a buff to anyone not randomly using the ult hoping to get lucky.

its a nerf for clearing incoming waves with it though. now it can't kill a wave at lvl 6 unless the wave is stationary.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 08 2014 21:29 GMT
#1550
On October 09 2014 06:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 06:26 Requizen wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:17 Requizen wrote:
On October 09 2014 06:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 05:49 Alaric wrote:
It aims at keeping the same average damage while removing the extremes, so don't expect to truck people with it I'd say.

Aside from CD buff, the actually ability is a nerf. There's less "clutch"-ness in it. It's not like people actually used it for MA DAMAGES, mostly used for slow field. Clutch lucky extreme hits, were amazing comeback teamfight mechanic though. (which was necessary, since picking GP meant that you were probably losing in the first place).

They're not removing the slow, are they?

No, they're just removing the "WTF I JUST GOT HIT BY EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CANNON BALL, AND 2K MAGIC DMG"

If you think that's a bad thing then you are crazy.

It's a comeback mechanic for a champion that has a lot other problems.

Randomness is not a comeback mechanic.

It sort of is.

So is being properly hydrated.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 08 2014 21:32 GMT
#1551
Randomness is definitely not a comeback mechanics.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 21:41:35
October 08 2014 21:38 GMT
#1552

HOPE WILL NEVER DIE!


ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
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