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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:10 xes wrote: Whoo an ostensible tank item that builds out of catalyst to help you initiate and dive towers because we haven't seen that before! Just bring back FoN plox. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:00 Fusilero wrote: http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/KlWpGkEf-preseason-2015-experimental-objective-and-item-changes ~Crazy and experimental objective and item changes~ I thought they realized making overly complicated solutions to simple problems only breeds even more problems that then they fixed with even more complicated solutions until no one has any clue what the fuck is going on. Then they go and make Warmogs into Heart. I don't get it... | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
I don't see why you'd need something as clunky as Zz'rot Portal to help non-DPS heroes push towers when making aura items affect creeps accomplishes the exact same thing. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:13 St3MoR wrote: https://www.facebook.com/Thooorin/posts/877492295595030 Thorin explaining himself about some crap he said about Poland, he also says that should be some interesting drama :D I fell asleep trying to read it. Way too verbose. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Fuck's sake, Riot. You sure about that "clarity, simplicity" design goal? That's such a dumb fuckingly stupid way of going about things. The hell. You know what? I feel like Riot communicating about what they intend to do is even worse, because they're doing such idiotic stuff (not talking about numbers or anything, but just from a purely design point of view), and they make it look like they'd care or discuss about it, but preseason 4 already showed really well that it's pretty much set in stone and they at best look for validation. So you just get to rage earlier when they talk about their stuff but you know nothing will improve from there, really. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
The fact that it's permanent is pretty WTF though. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:31 Alaric wrote: ... I just got cancer as soon as I read the first change, the dragon one. Fuck's sake, Riot. You sure about that "clarity, simplicity" design goal? That's such a dumb fuckingly stupid way of going about things. The hell. Something something more tower changes. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:31 Alaric wrote: ... I just got cancer as soon as I read the first change, the dragon one. Fuck's sake, Riot. You sure about that "clarity, simplicity" design goal? That's such a dumb fuckingly stupid way of going about things. The hell. Come now everyone knew when they made that blog it was all bullshit. They basically making dragon like baron except it doesn't give global gold anymore and the buff is permanent. I guess it makes some sense to make it a buff but the other stuff is against strategic diversity which they said they wanted. I always felt Dragon being a pile of gold was dumb in the first place so this change is more "LoLy" in a way. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
This logic | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
Stack them for hilarious tower pushes? Yup (realistically a tank top/jungle/support all want this item) Single most powerful effect for tower pushing as a team or alone? (because you can pop it right after the enemy spends its CD's clearing waves) Yup Allows DPS champions to backdoor easily with a single item? Yup Negates the entire concept and advantage of wave manipulation? Yup! This is going to be bonkers when it hits live | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
But a creep spanwing item would break a lot of that, unless its useless like that promotion item. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:27 Gahlo wrote: I fell asleep trying to read it. Way too verbose. My impression from that post is that he is indeed racist. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
But when dragon benefits (gold and exp) translate into very tangible benefits (more items and levels, which you can directly see), then although it's arguably worse for snowballing (win a dragon fight, be stronger for the next, unless you're facing a strong timing team or get outscaled fast), it's also very clear and intuitive for people. With a stacking buff, unless it's a stats stick (in which case it's really uninspiring and uninteresting, as I'd rather have the gold to choose cool items to buy that suit me better, for example), then it's a lot less tangible, and while a gold disparity can be made up for (trading dragon for a tower, using a pick comp to get kills/contesting buffs in the jungle to close the gap before the next dragon spawn, etc.), depending on what the buff is it can pretty easily become an issue. I'll keep that stance: play around the map (tower mechanics, map layout, the stats and location of jungle camps) for your "macro" changes, and use items if you want to affect stats or "micro" changes. Rely on actives and auras for "intangible" benefits over complicated mechanics. Shape the power timings and different phases of the game around item prices and cost-efficiency, rather than tie it to slot-efficiency to increase the importance of leads and point the game toward late. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Reaper soraka and victorious morgana on PBE | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:47 Sufficiency wrote: My impression from that post is that he is indeed racist. Jesus christ, doesn't facebook have a text limit? Also yeah, skimming through it, he sounds pretty racist. | ||
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