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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 16:05:01
October 08 2014 16:01 GMT
#1481
I'm kinda of worried to play solo ranked games after 4.18 goes live, because of the new Sion :\ people will spam him, I'm pretty sure. I guess I'm gonna try him but as a jungler.

Also a pretty nice nerf to Yasuo with base HP reduction to 380 from 430, lol.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 08 2014 16:09 GMT
#1482
On October 09 2014 00:42 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I don't even know if that's sexist. That's just nonsensical. It's like saying you can never plug your USB stick into your computer right the first time because you're black.

No no. Its like saying your bank keeps changing its operating hours.

Like a camel
Freeeeeeedom
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 08 2014 16:15 GMT
#1483
why are they trying to """"fix""""" the jungle when things like jayce gate still coded as minions leading to experience discrepancies for the enemy team still exist
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 08 2014 16:18 GMT
#1484
On October 09 2014 01:15 FinestHour wrote:
why are they trying to """"fix""""" the jungle when things like jayce gate still coded as minions leading to experience discrepancies for the enemy team still exist


Design team generally aren't the same people as bug fixing team.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 08 2014 16:21 GMT
#1485
On October 09 2014 01:15 FinestHour wrote:
why are they trying to """"fix""""" the jungle when things like jayce gate still coded as minions leading to experience discrepancies for the enemy team still exist

wait wut. How the hell does that work out?
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 08 2014 16:22 GMT
#1486
Initially I thought Xypherous was articulate and had very good ideas (well, he designed Orianna), but ever since the threads about the state of supporting last year and what Xelnath and him pulled off wrt itemisation and what makes the game more diversed and balanced, I can't look at his posts without distrust as the basic mindset.
He's a huge advocate of giving midgame-oriented items (like Chalice and Guise in their time) slot- and gold-efficient upgrades, and to keep the items stronger without a premium on slot efficiency.

Actually, slot-efficiency as a concept for balancing items seems entirely lost on them. And because it's on purpose, whatever they say is hard to look at just because the basis they operate on is so hugely flawed.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 08 2014 16:24 GMT
#1487
On October 09 2014 01:22 Alaric wrote:
Initially I thought Xypherous was articulate and had very good ideas (well, he designed Orianna), but ever since the threads about the state of supporting last year and what Xelnath and him pulled off wrt itemisation and what makes the game more diversed and balanced, I can't look at his posts without distrust as the basic mindset.
He's a huge advocate of giving midgame-oriented items (like Chalice and Guise in their time) slot- and gold-efficient upgrades, and to keep the items stronger without a premium on slot efficiency.

Actually, slot-efficiency as a concept for balancing items seems entirely lost on them. And because it's on purpose, whatever they say is hard to look at just because the basis they operate on is so hugely flawed.

it's because mid-game items don't build into one's endgame fantasy, so that's why they don't like it.
liftlift > tsm
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 08 2014 16:28 GMT
#1488
On October 09 2014 01:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 01:15 FinestHour wrote:
why are they trying to """"fix""""" the jungle when things like jayce gate still coded as minions leading to experience discrepancies for the enemy team still exist

wait wut. How the hell does that work out?

if you azir ulti an jayce gate you get 400 gold and 17 cs worth of xp.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 08 2014 16:38 GMT
#1489
On October 09 2014 01:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 01:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 01:15 FinestHour wrote:
why are they trying to """"fix""""" the jungle when things like jayce gate still coded as minions leading to experience discrepancies for the enemy team still exist

wait wut. How the hell does that work out?

if you azir ulti an jayce gate you get 400 gold and 17 cs worth of xp.

ROFL didn't this happen already with xerath Q back in the day
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 08 2014 16:43 GMT
#1490
On October 09 2014 01:38 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 01:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
On October 09 2014 01:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 01:15 FinestHour wrote:
why are they trying to """"fix""""" the jungle when things like jayce gate still coded as minions leading to experience discrepancies for the enemy team still exist

wait wut. How the hell does that work out?

if you azir ulti an jayce gate you get 400 gold and 17 cs worth of xp.

ROFL didn't this happen already with xerath Q back in the day

That explains why Bjergsen was up a fuckton of CS and 4 levels when he played that matchup against Pobelter recently.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 08 2014 16:53 GMT
#1491
Oh Azir bugs.

There's always going to be something new, isn't there.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 08 2014 17:02 GMT
#1492
Oh yeah, trynd could spin through xerath bolt for mucho plunder. Good times.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 08 2014 17:06 GMT
#1493
On October 09 2014 01:43 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 01:38 Nos- wrote:
On October 09 2014 01:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
On October 09 2014 01:21 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 01:15 FinestHour wrote:
why are they trying to """"fix""""" the jungle when things like jayce gate still coded as minions leading to experience discrepancies for the enemy team still exist

wait wut. How the hell does that work out?

if you azir ulti an jayce gate you get 400 gold and 17 cs worth of xp.

ROFL didn't this happen already with xerath Q back in the day

That explains why Bjergsen was up a fuckton of CS and 4 levels when he played that matchup against Pobelter recently.



Holy shit....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 08 2014 17:08 GMT
#1494
On October 09 2014 01:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 01:22 Alaric wrote:
Initially I thought Xypherous was articulate and had very good ideas (well, he designed Orianna), but ever since the threads about the state of supporting last year and what Xelnath and him pulled off wrt itemisation and what makes the game more diversed and balanced, I can't look at his posts without distrust as the basic mindset.
He's a huge advocate of giving midgame-oriented items (like Chalice and Guise in their time) slot- and gold-efficient upgrades, and to keep the items stronger without a premium on slot efficiency.

Actually, slot-efficiency as a concept for balancing items seems entirely lost on them. And because it's on purpose, whatever they say is hard to look at just because the basis they operate on is so hugely flawed.

it's because mid-game items don't build into one's endgame fantasy, so that's why they don't like it.

Pretty much!

Having an item that doesn't fulfill Bronze V jizz fantasies of lategame "cool" item is anti-fun. How else would Ketara play if he couldn't rush Tiamat -> Hydra?

Honestly they could balance mid game power spike items by giving them upgrades that are just kind of shitty but sound cool to noobs (make Runaan's upgrade out of a cheaper less slot-efficient, but even more gold efficient Shiv or something) because who gives a fuck what you build in Plastic 7 anyways. My roommate was playing last night in Wood 4 and won a 55 minute game with a 23k gold deficit by the end of it so obviously itemization efficiency really doesn't matter at all there.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 08 2014 17:23 GMT
#1495
Tiamat Lux best Lux.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 08 2014 17:27 GMT
#1496
Runaan Garen best Garen.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 08 2014 17:41 GMT
#1497
Garen Garen best Garen.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 08 2014 19:00 GMT
#1498
http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/KlWpGkEf-preseason-2015-experimental-objective-and-item-changes
~Crazy and experimental objective and item changes~
Glorious SEA doto
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 08 2014 19:10 GMT
#1499
On October 09 2014 04:00 Fusilero wrote:
http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/KlWpGkEf-preseason-2015-experimental-objective-and-item-changes
~Crazy and experimental objective and item changes~

Whoo an ostensible tank item that builds out of catalyst to help you initiate and dive towers because we haven't seen that before!
Administrator@TL_Zess
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
October 08 2014 19:13 GMT
#1500
https://www.facebook.com/Thooorin/posts/877492295595030

Thorin explaining himself about some crap he said about Poland, he also says
I will address my dispute with Reginald and the scandal which followed that in my next facebook post.

that should be some interesting drama :D
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
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