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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 16 2014 05:25 GMT
#881
He gets ASPD from CDR, not CDR from ASPD.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
September 16 2014 05:39 GMT
#882
On September 16 2014 13:58 739 wrote:
Lovely, mass texture update, Worlds incoming pretty soon, so I'm hoping for a nice patch and Summoners Rift Visual Update to go live, once Worlds is over <3 that'd be awesome, can't wait for it.


Update for my Akali. Woot! Her blades are sharper to slay noobs and get resets.

Til she gets cc'ed and killed by fed carries.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 16 2014 05:57 GMT
#883
This might have been posted already, but I found last year's fantasy TL to be really fun/enjoyable. Also the player points seem to have been updated recently, so gogogogo

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/466978-fantasy-s4-world-championships-pt-2
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 16 2014 06:18 GMT
#884
single target silences confirmed anti fun mechanics imba
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 06:49:51
September 16 2014 06:47 GMT
#885
I'm kind of OK (not that I'm sad to see it go) with Talon's silence, but I think it should be 0.5 seconds. I've got a bit more of a problem with his AoE potential for an assassin. Assassins by definition should be vastly single target focused. Overall, I'd say there are bigger problems than Talon right now.

Also, how come Riot had to go and give Azir, a champ with immense zoning potential, TWO escape/disengage abilities. That's straight up fucked. His lack of CC outside ult doesn't seem enough of a drawback to me. The whole idea of a zone control champion is that they are weak if you can penetrate/remove/get around their zone. Riot does this right with some champs (e.g. Zyra, Syndra, Heim - they are pretty screwed if you can get to them), but Azir pretty much flies right in the face of that theory.

Incidentally, Ziggs probably wouldn't have had so many nerfs if his bullshit escape didn't exist, and I'm willing to bet the same about Caitlyn too (that net is bullshit on a crap sandwich when you consider she has longest base range in the game).
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2014 06:55 GMT
#886
another round of nerf bats the second a champion becomes popular.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 16 2014 07:19 GMT
#887
On September 16 2014 11:02 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 10:29 droserin wrote:
On September 16 2014 10:17 DonKey_ wrote:
I'm srsly about to pull my hair out over how many people viewing two passives on Azir as anything special at all.
Multiple passives have existed since season 1, there is nothing new about it.

Yes. The only difference now is that Riot is putting multiple passives in the passive slot rather than attaching one of them to a random skill.


I wasn't commenting on this guy's multiple passives. I just think his tower passive looks like a problem waiting to happen and that the Yasuo example being "look this isn't a problem" is not that great of an example.

Well don't read it a way it isn't said then.

Removing the silence means as soon as Talon jumps to you you can dash away or flash and he has nothing to stay on top of you. Akali has up to 2 other dashes, Zed has W and ult, Kha'Zix has his ult, W, E, and in general doesn't care because bullshit dps he doesn't have to stand near you to burst (Talon's reliant on his E damage amplification past a point and it lasts 3s), Rengar can root you if needed to kill you, etc.
It also means he can't interrupt spells anymore.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 16 2014 07:30 GMT
#888
So apparently svenskeren's account on Taiwan server was taipeichingchong. Never go full retard
Glorious SEA doto
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 07:49:53
September 16 2014 07:46 GMT
#889
"This has not been forgotten and is still discussed internally. Here's the tl;dr of the history.

The original plan, back when high quality summoner icons were rare, was to give out Riot Supporter icons that evolved in coolness based on how much lifetime RP was spend on an account. It was intended as a simple thank you to players who could then choose whether or not they wanted to display it to show they had supported the game and made it possible for so many to play for free.

We ran some surveys to make sure it would be well received, and the feedback from RP spenders was that it wasn't enough of a reward and didn't feel good. So we went back to the drawing board and came up with plans for scaling rewards that we also tested by survey. While those scored better with RP spenders, they were negatively received by the majority of the player base that hadn't spent money. They also felt bad to some Rioters who take pride in treating all of our players the same whether they have bought zero skins or 100.

The only reason to launch this kind of program is to show appreciation to players and create good feelings all around, and so the interest in moving forward dies quickly when we realize that just as many bad feelings will be created. So more recently our discussions have focused on what we can do to benefit all players and not just spenders. This has resulted in the return of double IP weekends and an increase in summoner icons that can be earned without spending. We continue to evaluate other ideas (like cars and wives/husbands for all!), but if they happen, they likely will not distinguish between RP buyers and non-buyers."


Pffffffffftttttttt............ I hope they will implement anything for lifetime RP buyers like ME but no, treat everyone equally, dafuq.

Also can someone already create a thread in LoL Tournaments for Worlds? Group stage starts in 2 days.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 16 2014 07:52 GMT
#890
Yeah that is just completely 100% socialist nightmare retarded. Never mind who is most deserving, give everyone a reward or we might hurt someone's feelings. Well you know what, that kind of thinking hurts my feelings.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 16 2014 08:22 GMT
#891
On September 16 2014 14:25 Ketara wrote:
He gets ASPD from CDR, not CDR from ASPD.


Yes. That is what I said. Nothing else i would have written would make sense if it were the other way around.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 16 2014 10:04 GMT
#892
On September 16 2014 16:19 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 11:02 cLutZ wrote:
On September 16 2014 10:29 droserin wrote:
On September 16 2014 10:17 DonKey_ wrote:
I'm srsly about to pull my hair out over how many people viewing two passives on Azir as anything special at all.
Multiple passives have existed since season 1, there is nothing new about it.

Yes. The only difference now is that Riot is putting multiple passives in the passive slot rather than attaching one of them to a random skill.


I wasn't commenting on this guy's multiple passives. I just think his tower passive looks like a problem waiting to happen and that the Yasuo example being "look this isn't a problem" is not that great of an example.

Well don't read it a way it isn't said then.

Removing the silence means as soon as Talon jumps to you you can dash away or flash and he has nothing to stay on top of you. Akali has up to 2 other dashes, Zed has W and ult, Kha'Zix has his ult, W, E, and in general doesn't care because bullshit dps he doesn't have to stand near you to burst (Talon's reliant on his E damage amplification past a point and it lasts 3s), Rengar can root you if needed to kill you, etc.
It also means he can't interrupt spells anymore.


Thats not exactly true. He's still got up to 2.5 seconds of +40% movespeed to get back on you from his ult, which is quite a lot.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 16 2014 10:07 GMT
#893
Read: if you go in with E and they flash out, they'll only take half of the ult damage, and you'll lose out on autos during the damage amplification, only getting Rake and maybe Q if they didn't flash out fast enough. Totes burst, especially in a teamfight or with nearby teammates, which is the point of being able to chase: you don't lose damage for it.
That's like saying "hey guys, I've got no hard cc, but let's jump on Kassadin, he won't escape I swear".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
September 16 2014 11:02 GMT
#894
On September 16 2014 16:52 Osmoses wrote:
Yeah that is just completely 100% socialist nightmare retarded. Never mind who is most deserving, give everyone a reward or we might hurt someone's feelings. Well you know what, that kind of thinking hurts my feelings.

Stop being so entitled. You get skins and champions for buying RP. Anything else is just gravy, and you're not a special snowflake for spending RP.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 16 2014 11:18 GMT
#895
ryze facechecks jax with finished trinity/bortk and still stomps him 1v1 in melee range without any kiting whatsonever, i dont get how this makes any sense
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 16 2014 11:37 GMT
#896
On September 16 2014 15:55 wei2coolman wrote:
another round of nerf bats the second a champion becomes popular.


This has been Riot's balance method for who knows how long and will be for the foreseeable future. It's easier to just nerf bat anything that gets popular than it is to create a balanced dynamic of strength.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 16 2014 12:07 GMT
#897
OK well Talon has been so OP that even LC
Cs picked him up.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 16 2014 12:18 GMT
#898
And consistently lost with it. The one Talon win, by Alliance iirc? was largely won by the side lanes anyway so Talon didn't matter at all.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 16 2014 12:31 GMT
#899
Talon is the type of champion that riot have always hated.Big weaknesses,close to impossible to outplay because of the silence and either useless or rapes everyone.Not surprising he gets nerfed so fast.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
September 16 2014 13:05 GMT
#900
Since the changes to Vayne 's condemn, I have been playing a duo lane with Anivia and Vayne. It has to be one of the most annoying combo to play against. Playing Anivia I have been going 9-6-15 in the masteries for Anivia taking points in the expose weaknesses and additional AP with a doran's ring start. The reason for the Doran's is it gives better mana regen, AP, and you're getting double the HP because of the egg. These are probably best stats to have to snowball the lane. First back you can get the gold generator and/or sightstone.

The lane really needs to snowball, but it's pretty easy to catch a person or two in Anivia's stun and icicle attack with a wall behind them for Vayne to have the easiest condemn in the world. Chaining a stun at lvl 3 or 4 against a champ that is lvl 2 or 3 pretty much forces a flash over the wall or they're dead. I've been maxing the wall second because once you get a Talisman of Ascension isolating people with the wall and picking them off becomes really easy and its the only move Anivia has that has scaling utility. I used to hate supporting Vaynes because I have such an aggressive style in the lane, but this combo has been giving me some success so far.
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