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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 19 2014 21:41 GMT
#521
On July 20 2014 06:38 IamPryda wrote:
anyone been playing mumu jungle with the new golem? having a ton of success but I feel I am running into mana problems more so then before


I feel the new Golem is a nerf for Amumu because he benefits from the Spirit Stone better while Spirital Wraith is pretty meh.

Unfortunately though you kind of have to get Wraith unless you want to do Golem + Spirit Stone.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
July 19 2014 21:45 GMT
#522
Spirit stone just feels way better on champs who have mana issues, it's stupid because champs like amumu or ww would really enjoy the new golem but they prefer the regen of spirit stone... quill coat is just an other awkward item that was created without thinking too much because "tank junglers can't attack so they need to do damage by being attacked". I bet my hat the item WILL be changed or even removed in the next 6 months.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 19 2014 22:09 GMT
#523
On July 20 2014 06:45 RouaF wrote:
Spirit stone just feels way better on champs who have mana issues, it's stupid because champs like amumu or ww would really enjoy the new golem but they prefer the regen of spirit stone... quill coat is just an other awkward item that was created without thinking too much because "tank junglers can't attack so they need to do damage by being attacked". I bet my hat the item WILL be changed or even removed in the next 6 months.

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Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 22:22:11
July 19 2014 22:20 GMT
#524
On July 20 2014 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 06:38 IamPryda wrote:
anyone been playing mumu jungle with the new golem? having a ton of success but I feel I am running into mana problems more so then before


I feel the new Golem is a nerf for Amumu because he benefits from the Spirit Stone better while Spirital Wraith is pretty meh.

Unfortunately though you kind of have to get Wraith unless you want to do Golem + Spirit Stone.

I think his mana regen is fine with SOTAG. He needs to build FH or IBG for base mana as his 2nd item though for sure in my experience, which doesn't work so well with SOTAG bonus health thing. Occasionally you have to get locket before those too if they have a lot of magic damage which is annoying.

Spectral wraith hasn't been the go to item on mummy since they started messing with sotag giving mana regen based on damage to monsters imo.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 22:30:06
July 19 2014 22:29 GMT
#525
On July 20 2014 06:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 06:38 IamPryda wrote:
anyone been playing mumu jungle with the new golem? having a ton of success but I feel I am running into mana problems more so then before

spectral wraith is still the go to mummy item.

i like when people get wraith on mummy, it tells me they have no idea what they're doing

On July 20 2014 06:45 RouaF wrote:
Spirit stone just feels way better on champs who have mana issues, it's stupid because champs like amumu or ww would really enjoy the new golem but they prefer the regen of spirit stone... quill coat is just an other awkward item that was created without thinking too much because "tank junglers can't attack so they need to do damage by being attacked". I bet my hat the item WILL be changed or even removed in the next 6 months.


Quill coat seems like you dont get enough mana or health back to make it worth while, and its basically just there to take up space tbh.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-19 23:07:17
July 19 2014 23:06 GMT
#526
Damn, I wish I had an idea what I'm doing when I'm jungling Amumu then
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 19 2014 23:08 GMT
#527
On July 20 2014 07:20 Complete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 20 2014 06:38 IamPryda wrote:
anyone been playing mumu jungle with the new golem? having a ton of success but I feel I am running into mana problems more so then before


I feel the new Golem is a nerf for Amumu because he benefits from the Spirit Stone better while Spirital Wraith is pretty meh.

Unfortunately though you kind of have to get Wraith unless you want to do Golem + Spirit Stone.

I think his mana regen is fine with SOTAG. He needs to build FH or IBG for base mana as his 2nd item though for sure in my experience, which doesn't work so well with SOTAG bonus health thing. Occasionally you have to get locket before those too if they have a lot of magic damage which is annoying.

Spectral wraith hasn't been the go to item on mummy since they started messing with sotag giving mana regen based on damage to monsters imo.


FH and IBG are not really that great on Amumu. At least not early.

Also this may be just me, but usually when I used to play Amumu I get CDR boots with the old Golem which had tenacity, so the build path was perfect.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 19 2014 23:09 GMT
#528
On July 20 2014 08:06 Scip wrote:
Damn, I wish I had an idea what I'm doing when I'm jungling Amumu then


It does seem to me that higher ranked players (i.e. high diamond/challenger on NA) prefer going for Wraith as Amumu, but lower division players prefer Golem.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 19 2014 23:12 GMT
#529
Wait a second, are you questioning our own LoL expert the Arb from Noobville? I can tell you have no idea what you're doing when you are jungling Amumu brohan.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
July 19 2014 23:13 GMT
#530
On July 20 2014 08:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 07:20 Complete wrote:
On July 20 2014 06:41 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 20 2014 06:38 IamPryda wrote:
anyone been playing mumu jungle with the new golem? having a ton of success but I feel I am running into mana problems more so then before


I feel the new Golem is a nerf for Amumu because he benefits from the Spirit Stone better while Spirital Wraith is pretty meh.

Unfortunately though you kind of have to get Wraith unless you want to do Golem + Spirit Stone.

I think his mana regen is fine with SOTAG. He needs to build FH or IBG for base mana as his 2nd item though for sure in my experience, which doesn't work so well with SOTAG bonus health thing. Occasionally you have to get locket before those too if they have a lot of magic damage which is annoying.

Spectral wraith hasn't been the go to item on mummy since they started messing with sotag giving mana regen based on damage to monsters imo.


FH and IBG are not really that great on Amumu. At least not early.

Also this may be just me, but usually when I used to play Amumu I get CDR boots with the old Golem which had tenacity, so the build path was perfect.

Why isn't FH great? Mana/cdr/armor all seem like the perfect stats for amumu imo.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 19 2014 23:24 GMT
#531
HP is better than resistances early, shroud really, really sucks as an item since they kept nerfing it (losing CDR could have been worse, then they removed some mana for the price which was somewhat fine, then they removed vest in favour of cloth, much cheaper but also jack shit for armour, like half the price of the item is fucking mana), and if you buy FH you dump 2.5k+ gold for no HP at all. It doesn't help your tankiness at all and their mid will shrug and one-shot you as you try to initiate.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 19 2014 23:25 GMT
#532
By the way:

[image loading]

Average win rate vs Doom Bots is 51%.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 19 2014 23:27 GMT
#533
Is that for all ranks of doom bots?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 19 2014 23:32 GMT
#534
On July 20 2014 08:27 GolemMadness wrote:
Is that for all ranks of doom bots?


Unfortunately, yes. I cannot distinguish which level of Doom Bot it is - I can only tell those games were Doom Bot games. You can blame Riot for that.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 19 2014 23:36 GMT
#535
On July 20 2014 08:12 Scip wrote:
Wait a second, are you questioning our own LoL expert the Arb from Noobville? I can tell you have no idea what you're doing when you are jungling Amumu brohan.


I legit have no idea what to do when jungling amumu. Teach me sempai?
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 20 2014 00:04 GMT
#536
Made a blog post about this:

http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/07/doom-bot-statistics.html

Reddit discussion:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2b66mh/doom_bot_win_rate_statistics_bronze_players_win/
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 20 2014 00:05 GMT
#537
On July 20 2014 08:36 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 08:12 Scip wrote:
Wait a second, are you questioning our own LoL expert the Arb from Noobville? I can tell you have no idea what you're doing when you are jungling Amumu brohan.


I legit have no idea what to do when jungling amumu. Teach me sempai?

Buy golem stone mash r win game

thx you are both challenger now
ggrekt
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 20 2014 00:17 GMT
#538
Not really feeling comfortable on Elise anymore buildwise. Tanky doesn't feel like it does enough damage. Damage gets blown up. Midway feels super meh with the Golem change.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 20 2014 00:33 GMT
#539
What about wraith with sorc shoes into tank.
Glorious SEA doto
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 20 2014 00:44 GMT
#540
It looks like everybody's switched over to spectral wraith on Elise. Saint and Helios were discussing how it feels kind of awkward to build her now as well.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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