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On July 19 2014 07:27 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 07:24 Amui wrote:On July 19 2014 06:17 Dark_Chill wrote: Has he been successful in bot lane? Because I think that's what people were saying is going to be worse. If he's in a lane where he can win trades, he can simply win them harder now. He was already one of the least mana heavy carries in bot lane. It's almost what vayne would be if she had burst damage. man you guys remember when lucian was "olafed/butchered/gutted/lucian'd" and was horrible and no one was ever gonna play him again?
Lucian is dead. Long live Lucian.
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I don't really like the cdr builds on the new Lucian. ER in particular seems really unnecessary given that his mana costs are lower than they used to, and it's not as if Lucian's cooldowns on his skills are high to begin with. Maybe I'm just completely wrong given that the new Lucian has been out for two days, but the more standard builds that were used before still feel better to me.
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On July 19 2014 07:30 koreasilver wrote: I don't really like the cdr builds on the new Lucian. ER in particular seems really unnecessary given that his mana costs are lower than they used to, and it's not as if Lucian's cooldowns on his skills are high to begin with. Maybe I'm just completely wrong given that the new Lucian has been out for two days, but the more standard builds that were used before still feel better to me. for top lane im going Brut>TF>BotrK with CDR boots somewhere in there. maybe ER has a use in bot lane for the big AD boost but i would never get it for top.
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Reading posts like this is always so annoying.Feels like they aren't really doing anything.I mean do you guys remember there was going to be a yorick rework?A sion rework?Tons of changes for underplayed champs being "planned" but never actually happen.
Realistically the only changes that do happen is if community whines enough or riot decide a champ/item has had enough time in the spotlight :/.
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meh i said at the start that i knew it wasn't a nerf =P
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On July 19 2014 07:42 nafta wrote:Reading posts like this is always so annoying.Feels like they aren't really doing anything.I mean do you guys remember there was going to be a yorick rework?A sion rework?Tons of changes for underplayed champs being "planned" but never actually happen. Realistically the only changes that do happen is if community whines enough or riot decide a champ/item has had enough time in the spotlight :/.
Or if its Xerath.
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On July 19 2014 05:29 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote: While I'd love to get on the "Ha TL was wrong again, Lucian range nerfs not that big of a deal" hype train, it's only 1 day of stats. It's a lot of games so it's not likely to be mis-representative but we should wait. Meanwhile Kayle weeps in a corner D: and you know, no one is saying well the range nerf didn't hurt him. its more the massive buff to his dash that is making him threatening. not to mention that when a lot of people (including me) thought Lucian was dead after 50 range nerf, I didn't realize that the change to his dash meant that each passive activation reduces the cd on his E by 4 seconds, not just 2.
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Xelnath was moved on another, bigger project (from where he appears and what he talks about it looks like he's on an upper echelon since then) said I think Meddler awhile ago. Guess it still works if he was moved on a project deemed higher priority because of whining. 
And the guy working on Shen's bug said it wasn't his normal attribution and he only worked on it when he found time in parallel of his main assignment. I mean, it's only the 4th time now I mention it here when someone brings up Shen's bug and where they're at. Glad to see people pay attention to the red tracker and people replying to their questions here. :|
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On July 19 2014 08:03 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 05:29 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 19 2014 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote: While I'd love to get on the "Ha TL was wrong again, Lucian range nerfs not that big of a deal" hype train, it's only 1 day of stats. It's a lot of games so it's not likely to be mis-representative but we should wait. Meanwhile Kayle weeps in a corner D: and you know, no one is saying well the range nerf didn't hurt him. its more the massive buff to his dash that is making him threatening. not to mention that when a lot of people (including me) thought Lucian was dead after 50 range nerf, I didn't realize that the change to his dash meant that each passive activation reduces the cd on his E by 4 seconds, not just 2. I noticed that and I was skeptical that 50 range makes up for the ability to out trade most other ADCs. I mean just in a standard rotation you could dash aa q aa w aa and have dash up again to either chase or disengage.
Seeing the videos just made it more apparent how the lucian change made him a bursty vayne, strictly better than graves.
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On July 19 2014 08:11 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 08:03 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 19 2014 05:29 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 19 2014 05:27 obesechicken13 wrote: While I'd love to get on the "Ha TL was wrong again, Lucian range nerfs not that big of a deal" hype train, it's only 1 day of stats. It's a lot of games so it's not likely to be mis-representative but we should wait. Meanwhile Kayle weeps in a corner D: and you know, no one is saying well the range nerf didn't hurt him. its more the massive buff to his dash that is making him threatening. not to mention that when a lot of people (including me) thought Lucian was dead after 50 range nerf, I didn't realize that the change to his dash meant that each passive activation reduces the cd on his E by 4 seconds, not just 2. I noticed that and I was skeptical that 50 range makes up for the ability to out trade most other ADCs. I mean just in a standard rotation you could dash aa q aa w aa and have dash up again to either chase or disengage. Seeing the videos just made it more apparent how the lucian change made him a bursty vayne, strictly better than graves. Which further crowds out Quinn, because that was her niche as an AD.
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I mean, I still think Lucian is going to have a really hard time in a 2v2 against Trist/Kog/Cait/Twitch, but if teams are willing to lane swap or just run him mid Lucian is probably still reasonably strong. I think it's also possible that Lucian is no longer really an AD carry, but more of a mid laner.
That's basically what teams did in order to be able to run Vayne. Lane swap the Vayne and everything will be ok. Vayne fell out of favor mostly because Twitch/pre-4.12 Lucian were just too good to not run.
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So, according to reddit, homeguard Sorc boots gives 30 flat pen by mistake. lol
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On July 19 2014 08:16 Gahlo wrote: So, according to reddit, homeguard Sorc boots gives 30 flat pen by mistake. lol lol
just tested and it's true
http://imgur.com/a/RyUps
that's hilarious
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upgraded boots have been temporarily disabled and anyone that has been found using sorc boots has been banned for abusing this game breaking bug that was our fault thank you have nice day
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On July 19 2014 07:42 nafta wrote:Reading posts like this is always so annoying.Feels like they aren't really doing anything.I mean do you guys remember there was going to be a yorick rework?A sion rework?Tons of changes for underplayed champs being "planned" but never actually happen. Realistically the only changes that do happen is if community whines enough or riot decide a champ/item has had enough time in the spotlight :/.
They've done 6 reworks this year. Multiple lesser played champions have been buffed to bring them back a bit. On the PBE right now, they're looking to buff Hecarim, Velkoz, Vayne, Sivir and Graves. There's also a Sona rework that's nearing completion.
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On July 19 2014 08:43 FinestHour wrote: upgraded boots have been temporarily disabled and anyone that has been found using sorc boots has been banned for abusing this game breaking bug that was our fault thank you have nice day Go whine somewhere else. At worst they might disable homeguards on sorcs but its unlikely they will do even that. Just going to get fixed next patch or in a hotfix soonish.
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On July 19 2014 08:53 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 07:42 nafta wrote:On July 19 2014 07:34 Fusilero wrote:http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/red-post-collection-even-more-meddler-q.html"Update on this, since I forgot to report back earlier. As far as my data is showing, the bug has been stopped. I'm getting closer to understanding what's going on, so I'm going to spend half an hour before the next patch updating my logging info to get even closer to knowing the root cause.
Shen freedom incoming? Reading posts like this is always so annoying.Feels like they aren't really doing anything.I mean do you guys remember there was going to be a yorick rework?A sion rework?Tons of changes for underplayed champs being "planned" but never actually happen. Realistically the only changes that do happen is if community whines enough or riot decide a champ/item has had enough time in the spotlight :/. They've done 6 reworks this year. Multiple lesser played champions have been buffed to bring them back a bit. On the PBE right now, they're looking to buff Hecarim, Velkoz, Vayne, Sivir and Graves. There's also a Sona rework that's nearing completion. Could easily be doing wayyy more real changes instead of giving a champ a 20s cd reduction on ult when it doesn't fix it's problems.If those are the type of changes they want to focus on they could do them for the other 50 champions that are lacking atm(like always).They stopped releasing champs so they rework the existing guys that isn't exactly impressive or w/e.
Maybe I am being unrealistic but riot's everything is just awfully slow.There was talk about a warwick rework 3 months ago as well and there haven't really been any news about it.
Also after reading those patch notes vayne's tumble crits did seem a bit higher than they should be lol.
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