EPTif he was at your tower, you shouldve just chased him but stay out of W range until his fury decays.
[Patch 4.11] Maokai Rework General Discussion - Page 6
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
if he was at your tower, you shouldve just chased him but stay out of W range until his fury decays. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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ketchup
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wow that mecha aatrox is amazing. Looks like more info here: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/71-pbe-update-new-skins-for-aatrox-and.html And the answer is yes. Transformers 100% | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On July 02 2014 11:09 layabout wrote: It is. It's complicated and difficult to articulate. Still isn't funny How is "Riot isn't your friend" an insult? Even if you like Riot they are an organization. Why the personal attacks on me? Business model wise: I have spent money on the game because i have gotten immense value out of it. The system around runes is free to play done really badly and it shouldn't really be acceptable. With Riot's numbers their business is not about staying afloat they aren't struggling to pay everyone. It doesn't matter how nice or hardworking individuals are, organizations even charities act in their own interests and do bad shit. My issue is that i feel the questions of monetizing and maintaining/growing the playerbase are affecting their balancing and desgin in a negative way. One could argue that this is unavoidable but that is by no means certain and i don't have to like it in either case. They are an organization, yes, but I have many people who I consider friends working in that organization. I'm not referring to Riot Games, Inc., but rather Riot as a staff. I actually consider quite a few people who work for or are affiliated with Riot to be my friends. Basically my argument comes down to who the fuck are you to be criticizing and telling them how to run their organization which provides a fun game for free to millions of players? It's not like they are harming anyone or doing anything unethical or illegal. What specifically about letting people play their game 100% for free is not "acceptable"? How is the rune system "done really badly"? What specifically has Riot done that you consider "bad"? Because from what I can tell your entire subjective view of them is baseless and retarded. They're giving you a free game. For free. Like, you don't have to pay anything. At all. Seriously $0 total. And you're calling that unacceptable? To me, that sounds fucking retarded. [edit] And furthermore, you're imposing this retarded idea that acting in one's own interest is a bad thing on them, a BUSINESS ORGANIZATION. Everyone acts in their own interest pretty much all the time. What kind of fucking argument is that? You act in your own interest. I act in my own interest. How did your brain make the jump from "they act in their own interest" to "they do bad things"? What the hell does that have to do with anything? [/edit] | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On July 02 2014 11:03 iremnant3847 wrote: So does this mean Maokai is better now, or does he still suffer the same mana management issues as before? I don't really play him but I'm sure someone out there does consistently. He won't have any mana problems at all with Quill Coat. That item is straight up retarded and it comes with WARDS? Seriously they're going to have to nerf the hell out of the numbers on that regen. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On July 02 2014 12:54 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: He won't have any mana problems at all with Quill Coat. That item is straight up retarded and it comes with WARDS? Seriously they're going to have to nerf the hell out of the numbers on that regen. Yea, its like continuously running HP/MP pots when you're getting hit I hope they keep it broken op like that and just buff the hell out of Feral Flare | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 02 2014 11:53 Amui wrote: I'm with you on that. The tower should not be a bastion of hope for failing in lane, and it's a change that's targeted purely at the 2v1 scenario. The turret has to pretty much 2 shot level 3 champs for the tower dives to stop, and that's not going to happen. IMO, the problem with turrets is that they do too much on the first hit, and too little on the subsequent hits. Dives are too easy, but harassing under a turret is not very profitable, particularly as melee. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 02 2014 13:00 cLutZ wrote: IMO, the problem with turrets is that they do too much on the first hit, and too little on the subsequent hits. Dives are too easy, but harassing under a turret is not very profitable, particularly as melee. I am a little confused about this. How can it do too much on the first hit and not enough in subsequent hits, if the damage INCREASES with every hit? | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Not only that but SotAG gained 60 hp/5 and 45 mp/5 as well. And it keeps the ward. And it got the 25% bonus HP thing. This patch is going to be 100% Cho jungle for me. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 02 2014 13:06 Sufficiency wrote: I am a little confused about this. How can it do too much on the first hit and not enough in subsequent hits, if the damage INCREASES with every hit? I think what he means is he wants a lower base damage but even harder scaling. On July 02 2014 13:08 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Yeah, a health potion is 150 hp/15 seconds, or 50hp/5. A mana potion is 100 mana/15 seconds, or roughly 33.3 mana/5. Quill Coat, comparatively, is 40 hp/5 AND 30 mana/5. I don't know what the hell they were thinking. And it comes with a free reusable ward! Not only that but SotAG gained 60 hp/5 and 45 mp/5 as well. And it keeps the ward. And it got the 25% bonus HP thing. This patch is going to be 100% Cho jungle for me. I'm bringing back the pig. +% bonus health AND bonus health damage on W? Yes. Fucking. Please. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
after all, advertisements provide you with 30 second or 1 minute of entertainment for free during the super bowl, no one sits there and praises them and calls them good guys and criticizing them is pointless because they provide free entertainment. both riot and ads during the super bowl try to sell you something providing as much pressure as is legally allowed to do so. neither would exist if it didn't provide them with extra money above and beyond "good will". | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On July 02 2014 13:57 wei2coolman wrote: Man these kayle nerfs make me so salty. Like wtf, you're fucking patching every other week. Why hit it so fucking hard over a single patch? Even though we saw it competitive in eu and a little in na, it was hardly a sure win champ. they probably just decided that their policy is at odds with an invulnerability ultimate and are going the way of the eve with her. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On July 02 2014 13:46 PrinceXizor wrote: The whole "they provide the game for free" argument is ridiculous. considering the pressure thats put on players to spend real money. there is hardly a free to play game that exists that there isn't pressure to spend real money, even dota 2 has that pressure inherent in the game, with a far more generous model than LoL. after all, advertisements provide you with 30 second or 1 minute of entertainment for free during the super bowl, no one sits there and praises them and calls them good guys and criticizing them is pointless because they provide free entertainment. both riot and ads during the super bowl try to sell you something providing as much pressure as is legally allowed to do so. neither would exist if it didn't provide them with extra money above and beyond "good will". I just have this bias where I think people are stupid if they can't control themselves from spending money because of advertisements or "pressure" (whatever the fuck that means? I never felt any pressure to buy anything in this game.). No shit they're trying to get you to spend money. But they aren't FORCING you to spend money, nor are they giving any unattainable advantages to those who do spend money (except debatably some skins with visual differences). In fact, they do the exact opposite, and prevent money from interfering with the game AT ALL. If you're incapable of making rational and responsible financial decisions that really falls more on you than it does on them. You probably shouldn't have a credit or debit card if you're capable of causing serious financial damage to yourself on League of Legends with it. THE GAME IS FREE. I OWN EVERYTHING AND I PAID $0 FOR IT. If you feel so much pressure to spend money on this game and can't afford to do so, by all means, stop playing it, you retards. OR YOU COULD JUST SPEND $0 TOTAL ON IT LIKE I DO. I don't know where you idiots get it in your head that they're evil corporate overlords trying to use any and all means to suck your measly account money dry through underhanded tactics. Like, seriously? It would be like if I was the owner of a grocery store and I gave you a free toaster and blender just because you walked by, and then you started criticizing me about selling bread and fruit. Jesus Christ you guys are stupid. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
i don't begrudge riot for trying to sell their product, after all its the point of the company,to maximize profits. but to claim they are some altruistic savior that offers a purely free game, is one of the most naive things you can say. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 02 2014 14:06 PrinceXizor wrote: they probably just decided that their policy is at odds with an invulnerability ultimate and are going the way of the eve with her. The ultimate nerf was probably the least consequential part about these nerfs tho. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On July 02 2014 14:21 wei2coolman wrote: The ultimate nerf was probably the least consequential part about these nerfs tho. the stealth nerfs to eve when they neutered her pre rework were the least of her nerfs as well. perhaps they want to see if she still provides the type of gameplay she did before after the nerf, and if so, further neuterings could come. | ||
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