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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 16 2013 20:41 GMT
#761
they should just make it more expensive instead of nerfing it, the cdr hurts it no doubt but this change does nothing to prevent the 20 min unkillable killing machine problem. It's just too easy to get 6 slotted on tanks at the moment.
Carrilord has arrived.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
December 16 2013 20:43 GMT
#762
Ran into orb and apparently haemonculus (sp?) playing on my smurf, was fun to play against a syndra that actually knew how to stun people and setup a good siege situation but they were a bit too far behind to win teamfights and we had a couple good catches in a row that set up free inhibs:

[image loading]


It's always fun to run into people you know (or at least know of) in random games.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 20:50:54
December 16 2013 20:47 GMT
#763
On December 17 2013 05:25 iCanada wrote:
What was that website that showed you all the champs you've ever played and their stats from your cache?

Also, that Sunfire change seems like a pretty big nerf. I'd been getting it at like the 15 minute mark from the jungle on like Shy/Udyr/Nasus/Olaf/Mundo, and over a 10 second gank that is now losing 200 magic damage until you hit atleast level 15. Thats bonkers.

Huuuge nerf.


You're doing the math assuming you're buying it at level 1. (incorrectly, and in a dishonest way, i might add. you clearly know it takes 15 levels, but multiply 10*15 = 200 to inflate your case.)

if you're able to buy the full sunfire before level 10, you're so fed it doesn't matter.

realistically it's ~5dps nerf when first bought and scales slightly better into the late game. all things considered it's not actually a change that will affect you.


it's not 200 magic damage lost, that magically disappears at level 15. it's a scaling dps loss with math that doesn't exist levels 1-10.

it basically scales from 35-43 damage per second instead of 40 at all levels. absolutely minor change that does nothing but get people like you to overreact and stop bandwagoning it.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
December 16 2013 20:49 GMT
#764
Is orb still a flaming baby like in sc2?

On a more serious note, I like the cdr change on visage. I buy that item nearly every game. It's so broken good. Randuins and sunfire can be interchanged depending on the timing but how often do you see bv vs visage? Cdr, hp and mr = awesome stats. The passive is just a nice bonus.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 16 2013 20:50 GMT
#765
--- Nuked ---
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 16 2013 20:52 GMT
#766
I just(within 2 min of this post) logged on to NA from the midwest, it might be your isp
Carrilord has arrived.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
December 16 2013 20:54 GMT
#767
On December 17 2013 05:49 JonnyLaw wrote:
Is orb still a flaming baby like in sc2?

On a more serious note, I like the cdr change on visage. I buy that item nearly every game. It's so broken good. Randuins and sunfire can be interchanged depending on the timing but how often do you see bv vs visage? Cdr, hp and mr = awesome stats. The passive is just a nice bonus.


Not sure since I obviously couldn't see his team chat etc. but he seemed fine at the end of the game.

I think going all the way down to 10% might be a little overkill but since it's still a great item as you mentioned it should be a good nerf. It's pretty irritating as a mage player when tops + junglers just build that one item and you do no damage to them for half the game while they get great stats on top of that.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 16 2013 20:54 GMT
#768
ANIVIA BUFFS?????

OK time to pull out my S2 main again.

At least now her Q doesn't cost twice what almost everybody else's did.

I wouldn't mind if they ended up buffing her autoattack, but considering how much time I put into learning how to lasthit with that animation/projectile speed, makes me kinda sad.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 16 2013 20:59 GMT
#769
On December 17 2013 04:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
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[image loading]


What's with Riot and the same pose for all the female champs in splash art...

Hint: the answer starts with b and rhymes with noob.



if it wasnt for the boomerang, i wouldnt even be able to tell which champion its supposed to be.
They all look the same, huge ugly boobies and leaning over o that we see all the cleavage.


Someone at riot has problems with women.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 16 2013 21:01 GMT
#770
On December 17 2013 05:59 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 04:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


What's with Riot and the same pose for all the female champs in splash art...

Hint: the answer starts with b and rhymes with noob.



if it wasnt for the boomerang, i wouldnt even be able to tell which champion its supposed to be.
They all look the same, huge ugly boobies and leaning over o that we see all the cleavage.


Someone at riot has problems with women.

wut.
liftlift > tsm
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 21:04:18
December 16 2013 21:01 GMT
#771
rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights.

I actually don't mind Visage's cdr going down to 10%. It's currently too cost-effective. Virtually every single tank champion will buy visage regardless if they want the healing passive. I don't get the Sunfire nerf though; I hardly think the damage was a problem on the item. It was highly bought because it's the only good splitpush item - Tiamat/Hydra doesn't count because it's generally too risky a buy on champions that actually want to splitpush.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 16 2013 21:03 GMT
#772
On December 17 2013 06:01 Ryuu314 wrote:
rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights.

100% ban rate in Battle of the Atlantic.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 16 2013 21:05 GMT
#773
so if E is going to do garbage damage can we consider removing the cast restrictions holy shit.
Carrilord has arrived.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 21:08:58
December 16 2013 21:06 GMT
#774
On December 17 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 06:01 Ryuu314 wrote:
rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights.

100% ban rate in Battle of the Atlantic.

5 games, half of which are LCS regulation matches, is a pretty damn small sample size. Compare that to OGN where Kassadin is rarely pick/banned.

Even then, I understand the rationale behind needing to nerf Kassadin since he's a yolo q superstar (even if I don't like said rationale), but an almost 30% damage reduction on two of his skills is a huge overreaction. Only thing that might happen now is bruiser Kassadin might become more of a thing due to the free on-hit steroid on his W, but that's even more "toxic" and "anti-fun" than mage Kassadin imo.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 16 2013 21:10 GMT
#775
On December 17 2013 06:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 17 2013 06:01 Ryuu314 wrote:
rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights.

100% ban rate in Battle of the Atlantic.

5 games, half of which are LCS regulation matches, is a pretty damn small sample size. Compare that to OGN where Kassadin is rarely pick/banned.

Even then, I understand the rationale behind needing to nerf Kassadin since he's a yolo q superstar (even if I don't like said rationale), but an almost 30% damage reduction on two of his skills is a huge overreaction.


OGN
pick/ban/total/winrate
Kassadin 15% / 27% / 42% / 71%

decent numbers
Carrilord has arrived.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 21:13:10
December 16 2013 21:10 GMT
#776
lets just give kassadin his Ad ratios/armor pen back and see what happens <3
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
December 16 2013 21:11 GMT
#777
On December 17 2013 06:01 Ryuu314 wrote:
rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights.

I actually don't mind Visage's cdr going down to 10%. It's currently too cost-effective. Virtually every single tank champion will buy visage regardless if they want the healing passive. I don't get the Sunfire nerf though; I hardly think the damage was a problem on the item. It was highly bought because it's the only good splitpush item - Tiamat/Hydra doesn't count because it's generally too risky a buy on champions that actually want to splitpush.


Kassadin was banned in all 4 Battle of the Atlantic games and 12/12 games in the EU promotion/relegation tournament.

So yeah I think he's completely in need of a nerf at a competitive level.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
December 16 2013 21:12 GMT
#778
On December 17 2013 06:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 17 2013 06:01 Ryuu314 wrote:
rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights.

100% ban rate in Battle of the Atlantic.

5 games, half of which are LCS regulation matches, is a pretty damn small sample size. Compare that to OGN where Kassadin is rarely pick/banned.

Even then, I understand the rationale behind needing to nerf Kassadin since he's a yolo q superstar (even if I don't like said rationale), but an almost 30% damage reduction on two of his skills is a huge overreaction. Only thing that might happen now is bruiser Kassadin might become more of a thing due to the free on-hit steroid on his W, but that's even more "toxic" and "anti-fun" than mage Kassadin imo.


delete kass
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 16 2013 21:16 GMT
#779
On December 17 2013 06:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 06:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 17 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 17 2013 06:01 Ryuu314 wrote:
rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights.

100% ban rate in Battle of the Atlantic.

5 games, half of which are LCS regulation matches, is a pretty damn small sample size. Compare that to OGN where Kassadin is rarely pick/banned.

Even then, I understand the rationale behind needing to nerf Kassadin since he's a yolo q superstar (even if I don't like said rationale), but an almost 30% damage reduction on two of his skills is a huge overreaction. Only thing that might happen now is bruiser Kassadin might become more of a thing due to the free on-hit steroid on his W, but that's even more "toxic" and "anti-fun" than mage Kassadin imo.


delete kass

if riot had a choice between deleting kass, or fizz, which would you choose?
liftlift > tsm
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 16 2013 21:18 GMT
#780
On December 17 2013 06:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2013 06:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 17 2013 06:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 17 2013 06:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 17 2013 06:01 Ryuu314 wrote:
rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights.

100% ban rate in Battle of the Atlantic.

5 games, half of which are LCS regulation matches, is a pretty damn small sample size. Compare that to OGN where Kassadin is rarely pick/banned.

Even then, I understand the rationale behind needing to nerf Kassadin since he's a yolo q superstar (even if I don't like said rationale), but an almost 30% damage reduction on two of his skills is a huge overreaction. Only thing that might happen now is bruiser Kassadin might become more of a thing due to the free on-hit steroid on his W, but that's even more "toxic" and "anti-fun" than mage Kassadin imo.


delete kass

if riot had a choice between deleting kass, or fizz, which would you choose?

cheep would choose lee sin
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