On December 16 2013 21:02 ExoFun wrote:
Also by the reaction of Dexter and Tabzz on twitter it looked that they got ~~ditched~~backstab by the trio after worlds. I am glad that both the players have found good homes for season 4.

Dexter doesn't seem to hold much ill will towards zorozero and mithy though, he seemed apprehensive talking about nukeduck though.
He said he'd play with zorozero again if given the chance.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

December 16 2013 13:25 GMT

#722

Just tried Pantheon jungle.

It's def legit.

-Zoda-

France3578 Posts

December 16 2013 13:33 GMT

#723

I'm a bit surprised about him considering nukeduck to be a bit weak but that could make sense, nukeduck really shone after the laning phase most of the time.
About mithy I never really understood the hype around this guy, he never looked that good to me, especially considering how often he got caught, in worlds and stuff.

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

December 16 2013 13:36 GMT

#724

On December 16 2013 22:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Just tried Pantheon jungle.

It's def legit.

what was your rune setup? full ad?

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

December 16 2013 13:52 GMT

#725

On December 16 2013 20:30 Lord Tolkien wrote:

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Takes some time to get use to.

Meanwhile: still haven't been able to get a read on Malz, except that getting camped sucks.

he's real good vs swain
out pushed me entire time couldnt do shit.
got lucky with that kill though so idk.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

December 16 2013 14:45 GMT

#726

On December 16 2013 22:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:

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what was your rune setup? full ad?

Forgot about that and went full arpen. Still worked, and I'm a pretty shit jangler.

On December 16 2013 22:52 arb wrote:

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he's real good vs swain
out pushed me entire time couldnt do shit.
got lucky with that kill though so idk.

First malz game where the enemy jangle didn't camp me 24/7 (plus enemy side lane roam). Huzzah.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

December 16 2013 14:57 GMT

#727

On December 16 2013 19:29 qotsager wrote:
am i the only one having serious issues with hitting smite on drake/nash now? because on those two i always timed smite just by how much health bar was left, and now that they made it longer i'm totally lost. guess i'll have to either suck for a while or start to smite by actually looking at the numbers. :/

if you were just guessing to begin with then you were being bad for no reason, look at this change as a learning experience.

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

December 16 2013 16:17 GMT

#728

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zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

December 16 2013 16:19 GMT

#729

I think a lot of really good smiters only smite by eye, and of course a lot, if not most junglers smite by watching the bar. I definitely don't think smiting by eye is mechanically inferior because there's a lot of instinct that goes into the timing, and being aware of spells, CDs, etc, helps as much as knowing the exact numbers.

Also when you smite steal, you have to do it by eye almost always.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

December 16 2013 16:30 GMT

#730

i think smiting by eye is the definition of mechanically inferior. its something that you do, that works for you, but is objectively harder to do than the alternative.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

December 16 2013 16:35 GMT

#731

In a 50/50 Dragon/Baron it has nothing to do with your smite, per se, anyways. The key is really to be like Lee Sin or Elise and stack your execute + smite, or else hope (in soloqueue) your team and the ping gods align for you.

Like, this is the thing the Krepo really emphasized at Worlds, and people promptly forgot.

NeedsmoreCELLTECH

Netherlands1242 Posts

December 16 2013 16:36 GMT

#732

On December 17 2013 01:17 krndandaman wrote:
so i'm finally getting around doing my placement matches on my new lvl 30 smurf.

im queued up with 3 bronze 4/5 and a bronze 1 on my team. im plat 1 on main.
im laughing so hard

I have a 30% winrate with cait on my main over like 30 games, but on my friends account I went from silver V to gold V without dropping a single game (all cait games, ended 19w-0l or something rediculous).

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

December 16 2013 16:36 GMT

#733

The bigger health bar actually helps me a lot when I have to smite steal. It was a lot harder to see the incremental damage on the hp bars of baron/dragon before.

phyvo

United States5635 Posts

December 16 2013 16:37 GMT

#734

My problem with smiting by number is that the numbers are so small and in the corner so they cause me to lose a ton of awareness... which is pretty bad when there's the danger of a 5v5. I haven't tried it since the font/UI changes tho, maybe that helps.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

December 16 2013 16:40 GMT

#735

The problem with the numbers is also that they're harder/slower to process, and if you wait for the number to drop below the threshold to smite you're vulnerable to a damage spike or simply your reflexes being too slow. I try to use the numbers but when I'm getting pressured and need to predict I'll usually fall back on the bar to estimate at which speed it drops.

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

December 16 2013 16:48 GMT

#736

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wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

December 16 2013 17:34 GMT

#737

On December 16 2013 22:25 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Just tried Pantheon jungle.

It's def legit.

How does minion hopping help with his jungle? just makes buffs easier to clear?

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

December 16 2013 17:37 GMT

#738

But you don't actually have vision of the camps so it doesn't increase clearspeed, doesnt it?.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

December 16 2013 17:38 GMT

#739

speeds up his clear speed a bit and allows him to take a bit less damage while he has blue buff to support spamming. his jungle was never terrible its just like a lot of junglers, if you dont get early kills you feel pretty useless

BrownBear

United States6894 Posts

December 16 2013 18:46 GMT

#740

Too many games feel like a crapshoot because Yasuo is in every. single. one, and at least at my level I've never seen a more snowball-reliant, feast-or-famine champ.