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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 17 2013 06:16 wei2coolman wrote: if riot had a choice between deleting kass, or fizz, which would you choose? with these changes to Kass they might as well delete him and/or completely rework him. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On December 17 2013 06:16 wei2coolman wrote: if riot had a choice between deleting kass, or fizz, which would you choose? Neither; removing a legit champion from the game (and not April Fools stuff like Urf) means there is a serious flaw with the game system itself. The Kass nerfs probably are a bit too heavy-handed, and the W change will probably lead to Kass turning into a AP bruiser champ who goes RoA + Rylei's or some other AP tanky item (Abyssal?) and just disrupt people with him doing his normal REQ combo instead of balls to the wall AP and 100-0 some dude in 1.5 seconds. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 17 2013 06:19 Ryuu314 wrote: with these changes to Kass they might as well delete him and/or completely rework him. those rank 5 nerfs on q and e were a bit heavy handed, but interesting changes to W. Incoming Nashors Tooth Kassidan fotm. On December 17 2013 06:21 Kinie wrote: Neither; removing a legit champion from the game (and not April Fools stuff like Urf) means there is a serious flaw with the game system itself. The Kass nerfs probably are a bit too heavy-handed, and the W change will probably lead to Kass turning into a AP bruiser champ who goes RoA + Rylei's or some other AP tanky item (Abyssal?) and just disrupt people with him doing his normal REQ combo instead of balls to the wall AP and 100-0 some dude in 1.5 seconds. It's a joke >.> | ||
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NotYango
United States719 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On December 17 2013 06:24 NotYango wrote: Kass is just the kind of champion that Riot hates to have be popular because when he's in a lot of games, he's making peoples' gameplay experience unfun in at least some of them simply because of how he takes over a game when fed. so..., delete nidalee? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On December 17 2013 06:01 Ryuu314 wrote: rofl. more kassadin nerfs. I get that he's perma-banned in solo q but honestly it's completely unneeded on a competitive level. Even then, -60 damage on his q and -80 damage on his E is a huge fucking overreaction. Yes, his W got a nice damage buff, but imo that's irrelevant since you're rarely going to get many W procs off in teamfights. I actually don't mind Visage's cdr going down to 10%. It's currently too cost-effective. Virtually every single tank champion will buy visage regardless if they want the healing passive. I don't get the Sunfire nerf though; I hardly think the damage was a problem on the item. It was highly bought because it's the only good splitpush item - Tiamat/Hydra doesn't count because it's generally too risky a buy on champions that actually want to splitpush. They nerfed the damage aura because people would SpiritFire up and be stupidly tanky and sit on your face for a billionty damage. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On December 17 2013 06:24 NotYango wrote: Kass is just the kind of champion that Riot hates to have be popular because when he's in a lot of games, he's making peoples' gameplay experience unfun in at least some of them simply because of how he takes over a game when fed. As opposed to nidalee standing across the map spamming spears and if she lands 1 out 10 it's worth it because that's alot of fun..... | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 17 2013 06:38 IamPryda wrote: As opposed to nidalee standing across the map spamming spears and if she lands 1 out 10 it's worth it because that's alot of fun..... His statement isn't "as opposed to nidalee" but rather "in addition to nidalee" Given that they've already recently nerfed nidalee's spear. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
this is the correct answer #deletenidalee | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On December 17 2013 05:25 iCanada wrote: What was that website that showed you all the champs you've ever played and their stats from your cache? this one? | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Spirit Visage nerf is meh, would have preferred something else about the item to be nerfed. Now it's a pain to try to get to 40% once again. Funfire Cape nerf is very good, if the renekton got 1-2 kills and bought it at like lvl 8, you might as well completely forget about getting any minion kills. On December 17 2013 06:21 Kinie wrote: Neither; removing a legit champion from the game (and not April Fools stuff like Urf) means there is a serious flaw with the game system itself. The Kass nerfs probably are a bit too heavy-handed, and the W change will probably lead to Kass turning into a AP bruiser champ who goes RoA + Rylei's or some other AP tanky item (Abyssal?) and just disrupt people with him doing his normal REQ combo instead of balls to the wall AP and 100-0 some dude in 1.5 seconds. Kassadin's ranged combo hasn't been very damaging for the longest time. He's even up till now gotten most of his burst by using his R and W as well. If we assume that W is now an auto attack reset, it's a 1.2 AP ratio so 0.9 higher than before. Also 180 more base damage than before on that, so the base dmg of his combo is up by 40 and the ap ratio of his combo is up by 0.9. He just won't be as good with just his E and Q spam but that wasn't really done for the damage anyway. His burst is significantly higher but riskier - Good changes, especially if the community overreacts and I can finally play Kassadin again. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
anything else short of making the item (significantly) more expensive wouldn't change anything, and not even that matters that much anymore because the goldflow in this game is too high at the moment. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
If anything it's a buff to shyv since her ulti isn't gated by CD | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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