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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 16 2013 01:27 GMT
#621
On December 16 2013 10:25 zer0das wrote:
Shikyo- plays one champion, authority on top lane.

Complete opposite - I don't just make baseless statements(like this), I say why I have the opinion I do.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 16 2013 01:30 GMT
#622
On December 16 2013 09:06 Shikyo wrote:
Try Quinn against Swain, guaranteed to be fun(guess for whom)


Swain is OP as hell though.

That guy is ridiculous. I dont get how to fight him, to be honest with you.

It doesn't matter if you dumpster him pre-6 (which with his buffs over the last year or so, is damn hard btw.) he just like kills you once he hits six.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 01:39:29
December 16 2013 01:38 GMT
#623
Not to mention that unless you have something that applies Greivous Wounds you might as well give up on killing him. Had a Swain on my team, worse than Singed and Vlad put together.
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cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
December 16 2013 01:55 GMT
#624
Yasuo feels like the weakest champion I've ever played with or against.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 16 2013 01:56 GMT
#625
I think the. biggest thing with Swain is he needs a RoA to get so tanky, so if you can harass him in lane and shut down his cs (which I admit is tough) it gives your team a chance to deal with him before he can ramp up to his 2800 HP with a bajillion defensive stats in ult form and his effing bird heals him for infinite HP. Or at least time for you to get a half item or full item up on him.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 02:05:14
December 16 2013 02:04 GMT
#626
I feel like Katarina can deal with Swain well if his team cannot interrupt the ult. It applies grievous wounds and Swain has no mobility skills and has no burst.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 16 2013 02:10 GMT
#627
On December 16 2013 11:04 Shikyo wrote:
I feel like Katarina can deal with Swain well if his team cannot interrupt the ult. It applies grievous wounds and Swain has no mobility skills and has no burst.

i really enjoyed when people picked Kat vs Swain, sometimes i felt like thanking them for the free win
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 16 2013 02:21 GMT
#628
yea he trucks melee so hard 1-5 he's basically manaless those levels due to his passive.
Carrilord has arrived.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 16 2013 02:22 GMT
#629
On December 16 2013 11:04 Shikyo wrote:
I feel like Katarina can deal with Swain well if his team cannot interrupt the ult. It applies grievous wounds and Swain has no mobility skills and has no burst.

Except Kat using ult means Swain can land his full combo really easily. Plus she gets wrecked by Swain pre-6.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 16 2013 02:28 GMT
#630
I think a great fix to help Yasuo would be to have his tornado stack on his q last longer. It's so short that he's forced to play his hand relatively quickly, which both makes him easy to read and difficult to hit an ult with (in an intelligent position). Fighting away from minions is practical death to Yasuo if his allies don't have a knockup.
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
December 16 2013 02:29 GMT
#631
Kat get wrecked by every champ pre 6 with no assistance. Riven, Gragas better vs her because they can roam and beat kat in a 3v3 bot/top lane.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 16 2013 02:31 GMT
#632
Yeah katarina wont win in lane, but if shes mid and swain top for ex
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 16 2013 02:33 GMT
#633
After LD picked Sion today, I got curious.

AP Sion is clearly really strong early game, AD Sion is like hardest melee carry in the game late game...

Has anyone tried to a hybrid style? Come into the game with full retard AP runes, start Dring. Do the whole Dring stacking thing, then get Mobis, but instead of going like DFG-Hat, what about going Hydra - Phantom Dancer? It feels pretty good to me, you have that disgusting good early game with the farming capability, then you just roll of with Tiamat and kill kids with auto attacks.

I've played a few normal games, it seems really good. Two of them mid, roamed hard and won games. One game top against a nasus, who didn't really seem like he had an answer to AP Sion trading. That being said, I dont think Sion could really fight like Shyvana top, I'd bet that mid is much stronger.

With AP runes and 3 rings, you can actually farm rather well with W all the way to like the 20 minute mark, which is pretty damn good actually, because by then you should have atleast a Tiamat and you dont need to use ablilities to farm.

You get this sort of mid game lul which feels kind of awkward, but it is much smoother than just going AD sion, and you dont disappear at 30 minutes like AP Sion. That, and with the tendency for even stomps in ranked now adays to go 40 minutes instead of like 20 minutes, once you have a defensive item (Maybe FH, Spirit Visage, or GA?) you tanky as all balls with Hydra - PD - Ult and like the 500 free HP you have from E.

I just a mid gold scrub, anyone less awful want to see if it works against good players?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 02:36:42
December 16 2013 02:36 GMT
#634
Doubt it, you would have to play against a team like NiP, where they let you farm up to 7 item status, and it would probably work then.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 02:44:38
December 16 2013 02:42 GMT
#635
AD Sion just is terrible always.

Well, I guess he has a stun but he gets blown up too easily and really doesn't deal enough damage. He also has no untarget like Fiora and Yi and doesnt have great dmg without dmg items like Nasus.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 16 2013 02:43 GMT
#636
On December 16 2013 11:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Doubt it, you would have to play against a team like NiP, where they let you farm up to 7 item status, and it would probably work then.


We talking about Solo Q here, Solo queue.

I'm not saying its good, I'm saying I'm bad and I've used it over the last 6 hours to faceroll other bad players, and asking if someone who is less bad is willing to try it out more.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
December 16 2013 02:46 GMT
#637
every league you go up in elo there are like 20% less people that are going be in melee range of ad sion when his ult is active
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 02:51:39
December 16 2013 02:48 GMT
#638
On December 16 2013 11:42 Shikyo wrote:
AD Sion just is terrible always.

Well, I guess he has a stun but he gets blown up too easily and really doesn't deal enough damage. He also has no untarget like Fiora and Yi and doesnt have great dmg without dmg items like Nasus.


He has pretty good damage with just Hydra, and he is actually tanky as balls with any AD at all with his ult procced and Hydra. Its pretty gross actually.



On December 16 2013 11:46 chalice wrote:
every league you go up in elo there are like 20% less people that are going be in melee range of ad sion when his ult is active


Okay, sure, but does that not mean you are really good at peeling for an AD carry someone actually wants to hit? How they going to dive an AD carry when you can just stand right beside him and have the threat of Ulting AD sion?
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 16 2013 02:52 GMT
#639
lawl dat lifesteal is admittedly hilarious
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 16 2013 02:53 GMT
#640
to be fair, that was vs a master yi. still funny as balls though.
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