EPTOn December 15 2013 17:26 ticklishmusic wrote:
inb4 janna yasuo fanfic
inb4 janna yasuo fanfic
pls
Yasuo x Jarvan
[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 28
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
pls Yasuo x Jarvan | ||
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Micromnky
United States262 Posts
People get so salty about it for some reason. I think it might be because I can just completely shut down melee bruisers for the first 10-15 min. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On December 15 2013 23:00 Thinasy wrote: Any actually good Bot Lane will shit on Janna. Also what's even more funny are people trying to argue that something is good because they happened to win a few games. Didn't know that 12 games fell into the category "a few games" when the win-rate is nearly twice the overall win-rate for that said champion and the opponents were in diamond. But it's alright, people wanna play faggots like Annie, I'm not trying to stop no one :o | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 16 2013 01:41 Zdrastochye wrote: I'm with Sponkz, Janna is still fine. People are just retarded when playing her. I've seen a fair amount of Jannas W harassing in lane (wtf?) and shielding after their adc gets poked/or shielding themselves and AA harassing while they're too far ahead of their adc and get 1v2ed to 50%. People just don't know how to lane on Janna, so she looks like a bad champion. Most people who call her bad don't even play her, and don't really know, but you can't change everyone's mind so don't bother trying. literally everyone below diamond 1 is retarded though, so that doesnt mean anything in respect to champion power. jannas problems (imo) are that while she has a decent kit, each spell is very underwhelming compared to what else is available these days. shes easy to punish when behind because her ranges/cc are weak and shes not able to push advantages because her scaling is so bad on everything. On December 16 2013 00:56 Sponkz wrote: Didn't know that 12 games fell into the category "a few games" when the win-rate is nearly twice the overall win-rate for that said champion and the opponents were in diamond. But it's alright, people wanna play faggots like Annie, I'm not trying to stop no one :o 12 games by 1 person is a tiny sample. perhaps janna is the perfect champ 'for you', or you were just especially bad at previous picks. but its far more likely that the people at the top of the ladder playing so many games a day arent picking her for a reason. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Didn't quite agree with his build of hydra+shiv, but he was wrecking face 1v1. But teamfights seemed hard for him to capitalize on his kit. He would get blown up before his nado was up. Also, doesn't help that his ult doesn't allow him to avoid damage. Meh. Janna is shit right now. No lane presence, especially considering fotm adc's and supports, she gets shat on pretty hard in lane. Also, anyone notice in pro play that supports are still pretty shitty in lategame? At least in terms of 'end game fantasy'? Sure they make a bit more gold than their s3 counterpart, but the difference between s3 annie and s4 annie in botlane in proplay is a haunting guise, and that's about it. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I was watching some of much to learn's games last night (the Fiora guy) didn't really see him win lane decisively even vs. Karthus. He was also going shiv rush, into Tri > GA > Bork idk I feel like there is something here we just have not seen it yet. as for pt #2, the eu meta already seems to be shifting to not opening with a gold item and only buying it when you can afford it later, I've seen Krepo do it a bunch of times, and the Alliance support did it one game yesterday. | ||
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InfSunday
United States735 Posts
I have trouble playing Janna because it feels like her ult is useless unless the enemy team has some sort of obvious hard engage like Kennen. Even against something like Malph, he gets his ult in before I can get him off (unless you can shove him away mid jump? my reaction times aren't that good but that sounds amazing to see). Things like Nami/Sona/Leo ults just feel easier to use correctly. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Pretty much if they try to harass you with their spells, especially their Q's. Yasuo windwalls them, puts them on CD. Dashes into them, and gets 1 or 2 q's off before they can retaliate. Or you force the engagement, windwall their response, and you get free harass, and you E out. | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
Q: Thoughts on yellowpete and genja,since they are seen as less mechanical adcs but they seem to be always really consistent. A: Yellowpete in my opinion prolly one of the worst mechanical ad-carries i have seen in LCS, and he didnt even had any sort of consistency. Genja is one of the best. Q: Who do you think is the top3 EU at your lane? A: Rekkles Genja Tabzz/Creaton Sorry if this has already been posted  | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On December 16 2013 02:12 wei2coolman wrote: The windwall makes yasuo win 100% of his trades in lane against fotm mid. Pretty much if they try to harass you with their spells, especially their Q's. Yasuo windwalls them, puts them on CD. Dashes into them, and gets 1 or 2 q's off before they can retaliate. Or you force the engagement, windwall their response, and you get free harass, and you E out. both ZIggs and Oriana have enhanced autos, your saying a 20sec rank 1 cd circumvents that problem? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 16 2013 02:14 Slusher wrote: both ZIggs and Oriana have enhanced autos, your saying a 20sec rank 1 cd circumvents that problem? It allows you to choose your engagements. And before that you can just farm fairly safely with Q. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On December 16 2013 00:09 Micromnky wrote: It's not the strongest pick, but I've been loving Quinn top lately. People get so salty about it for some reason. I think it might be because I can just completely shut down melee bruisers for the first 10-15 min. Try playing it the other way. It's among the more helpless feelings you can have, to the point where the Quinn player's skill is largely irrelephant to anything as long as they have a pulse. That's why they're upset. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On December 16 2013 01:48 turdburgler wrote: literally everyone below diamond 1 is retarded though, so that doesnt mean anything in respect to champion power. jannas problems (imo) are that while she has a decent kit, each spell is very underwhelming compared to what else is available these days. shes easy to punish when behind because her ranges/cc are weak and shes not able to push advantages because her scaling is so bad on everything. 12 games by 1 person is a tiny sample. perhaps janna is the perfect champ 'for you', or you were just especially bad at previous picks. but its far more likely that the people at the top of the ladder playing so many games a day arent picking her for a reason. Maybe they don't pick her, because there's a lot of other options right now that are more popular. Doesn't make a champion more/less shitty because of that. Imo a champion is fine as long as that champion works in every tier and Janna does that fairly well compared to someone like Urgot who REALLY needs tweaking. Janna will probably get popular when the nerf-bat hits the mighty 3. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On December 16 2013 00:09 Micromnky wrote: It's not the strongest pick, but I've been loving Quinn top lately. People get so salty about it for some reason. I think it might be because I can just completely shut down melee bruisers for the first 10-15 min. Did I play against you yesterday? Were you on a team with an annie that got absurdly fed (she had like 27 kills after 30 min)? | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On December 16 2013 02:54 Sponkz wrote: Maybe they don't pick her, because there's a lot of other options right now that are more popular. Doesn't make a champion more/less shitty because of that. Imo a champion is fine as long as that champion works in every tier and Janna does that fairly well compared to someone like Urgot who REALLY needs tweaking. Janna will probably get popular when the nerf-bat hits the mighty 3. This. Janna is fine but she's not fotm, that's why the top player aren't playing her. She's still great at peeling (the best?) and there's still a few comps that she works in. She won't need buffs to be effective again. | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On December 16 2013 02:14 Slusher wrote: both ZIggs and Oriana have enhanced autos, your saying a 20sec rank 1 cd circumvents that problem? can windwall even block ori ball? | ||
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