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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:27 CreationSoul wrote: I also find it odd.... Why would YP, krepo and snoopeh risk their SECURE LCS spot for a real risk of not being in LCS NA? Because their chances are really high. They have LCS experience, international experiences against multiple high-level teams. And we're talking NA here, i don't see the problem for them tbh. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:34 Redox wrote: For one the team is splitting up anyway, mostly because Froggen really wants to play with Shook imo. Then EG probably wanted a NA division, so it makes a lot of sense to use some of their EU players for that as finding free quality players in NA is very difficult. EG only having a EU division was always kinda weird given how much they are NA focussed. And finally a similar reason other EU pros go to NA as well, supposedly less competition. I agree that it is quite risky though and beating Quantic will be difficult. But I suppose EG will pay them even if it fails. They would have to play in the Coke league, but then have another chance at qualfying after spring split. If they also fail then it is over. Well I still believe the plan for some of the guys was to stop playing and move into other roles within EG/Riot. This attempt to set up EG NA just seems like a way for them to keep playing if it works out or naturally progress into Riot/EG if it doesn't. If they don't get into LCS than they still in NA Coke league so they can do NA content and possibly even be at LCS venue constantly for PR. Just makes sense to me. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:44 Numy wrote: Well I still believe the plan for some of the guys was to stop playing and move into other roles within EG/Riot. This attempt to set up EG NA just seems like a way for them to keep playing if it works out or naturally progress into Riot/EG if it doesn't. If they don't get into LCS than they still in NA Coke league so they can do NA content and possibly even be at LCS venue constantly for PR. Just makes sense to me. Also possible. In any case I believe the EG players respect each other a lot and would not backstep each other, but rather find a solution that is acceptable for all parties. Same with the EG management, that was probably very content with how their LoL division was doing and had no reason to release any of them. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
If I interpret it correctly RiotTiza says that it is not allowed for a NA and EU LCS team to have the same owner. So it would not be possible to have an Alliance team in EU and an EG team in NA if both are owned by Garfield.. This changes a whole lot. If "EG.na" will indeed be an EG team (like I am pretty sure it will) the Froggen team would have to get a different owner than EG/Alliance. edit: there is also a reddit thread about it: http://de.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1rwh01/if_krepoco_remain_with_eg_for_na_froggenwickd/ Apparently it is a new rule for this season. Maybe Alex Garfield will find a new owner for Alliance? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
(jk we wouldn't catch up anyway) e: Shouldn't be that hard for A.G. to make his wife/gf or someone else close to him owner of either brand (most likely [A]) to avoid that new rules. If things go as expected though (eg losing to quantic) then there shouldn't be a problem because EG will be playing in the coke zero league. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Once they reach the real LCS, i would sell that spot, since i wont sell my popular Eu team for it. The players will probably fall into depression, but who cares, riot esport is all about the managers. Positive side effect is huge shitstorm and riot maybe seeing how dumb their rules are :D | ||
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
There is literally no reason I can see why an Organization should not have a team playing in NA and EU at the same time. Their branding rule makes at least some sense, but why do they create such stupidity in the first place? An internal scrim opponent who you can trust to keep your strategies secret and to prepare properly before a big match is a pretty good thing to have. Why go to all that effort to forbid it? (Keep in mind that sister teams are more or less the standard setup in Korea...) | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
On December 03 2013 00:24 BrownBear wrote: There's also still the possibility that this is the biggest troll of the offseason yet. I was thinking that for a while (mostly about the EU superteam) but now that Krepo, Snoopeh and YP have disappeared from the radar (aka not streaming anymore) and are playing organized scrims with NA teams I'd say this sounds fairly solid. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 02 2013 22:18 Redox wrote: Wow just saw this tweet If I interpret it correctly RiotTiza says that it is not allowed for a NA and EU LCS team to have the same owner. So it would not be possible to have an Alliance team in EU and an EG team in NA if both are owned by Garfield.. This changes a whole lot. If "EG.na" will indeed be an EG team (like I am pretty sure it will) the Froggen team would have to get a different owner than EG/Alliance. edit: there is also a reddit thread about it: http://de.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1rwh01/if_krepoco_remain_with_eg_for_na_froggenwickd/ Apparently it is a new rule for this season. Maybe Alex Garfield will find a new owner for Alliance? Rather strange rule. Seems like Regi/Jack were smart when they did the C9 thing since it still circumvents this rule while having basically a second TSM team. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
Alex Garfield is smart and he made sure that he can have Alliance/EG playing LCS before buying Velocity slot. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
Also dropping some bombs about how Olly is both a scumbag for leaking shit that doesn't belong to him and is also a drophacker :D Seems he is a bit pissed off at him  Announcement incomming "soon enough" "so much shit going on in Alternate maybe he should be working on his own stuff instead of talking about ours" | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 03 2013 02:11 Tula wrote: Krepo saying on stream that they do not announce stuff until it is completely finished to prevent having to backtrack. Also dropping some bombs about how Olly is both a scumbag for leaking shit that doesn't belong to him and is also a drophacker :D Seems he is a bit pissed off at him Announcement incomming "soon enough" Apparently Olly was pissed that Krepo among some others was against Incarnation coming back lol. Any pro player or manager could leak stuff about the other teams because they talk to each other in private, yet they dont do it. Like Krepo could leak the Atn lineup or whatever, but what's the point? There is always a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, it is a petty thing to disclose it just to get back at someone. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 02 2013 22:18 Redox wrote: Wow just saw this tweet If I interpret it correctly RiotTiza says that it is not allowed for a NA and EU LCS team to have the same owner. So it would not be possible to have an Alliance team in EU and an EG team in NA if both are owned by Garfield.. This changes a whole lot. If "EG.na" will indeed be an EG team (like I am pretty sure it will) the Froggen team would have to get a different owner than EG/Alliance. edit: there is also a reddit thread about it: http://de.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1rwh01/if_krepoco_remain_with_eg_for_na_froggenwickd/ Apparently it is a new rule for this season. Maybe Alex Garfield will find a new owner for Alliance? I thought I overheard that from before somewhere. Not entirely sure if it pertained to LoL strictly too. It just sounds very familiar. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
3.1 Team Ownership Restriction No Owner or Affiliate of Owner may own or control more than one team in either the LCS North America Region or the LCS Europe Region. If an Owner or Affiliate of Owner owns a team in the LCS North America Region and a team in the LCS Europe Region, the two teams may not have names, logos, uniforms or brand designs which are the same or reasonably similar. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 03 2013 03:50 JBright wrote: This was in the rulebook from July but I'm sure the earlier ones also had something similar. Maybe Riot made it a bit stricter to prevent loopholes. Which would have been fine if they were Alliance and EG. So this new rule seems weird. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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