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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 01:41:15
December 03 2013 01:33 GMT
#161
On December 03 2013 09:47 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:44 LaNague wrote:
what i find more interesting is the rule that a player cant be the license holder.

So if you are an amateur team and somehow manage to get a license, you have to either stop playing or get a manager that then can screw you over so freaking hard.




For example, by selling your license to, lets say EG.



I've seen people bitch about this, but give no alternative to the system that RIOT has. If you want the spot to be owned by the players, than how do you bench someone? How do you replace them when it is clear that they suck/stop trying/have personality conflicts with the team? If all 5 players own the spot - then their roster is locked in, until the end of time, because no one is going to vote themselves out of a team.

I mean how many people in League have been screwed over by managers? Velocity? if you count this, I guess - but they had about 5% chance to beat Quantic in a series so they were going to lose their spot anyway, unfortunate that they don't get to compete for their spot but hardly seems like a vast miscarriage of justice. There was that strange move with NeegodBro, TheTess and Svenskerren being benched with NiP after only 2 weeks. That one is kind of unfortunate. Lemondogs? Okay so the team got gutted by NiP, but unless their contracts with Lemondogs ran out, NiP certainly paid Lemondogs a fee for Nukeduck, Zorozero and Mithy - and oh, those players are happily employed with NiP, in starting positions. Dexter and Tabzz are still on their roster (for now I guess) and if you want to count them as screwed over... I don't know what to say - they are all going to be playing in the LCS next split. So please tell me how many players have been screwed over by managers. It's possible I'm missing some more examples, but this hardly seems like a huge problem.


how about no rule.

If one player owns the team, good for him.
If all players own the team equally, they have to figure it out.
If a manager creates a team or buys a spot or gets hired and put in charge, good for him.

If a team cant bench the player they want, or are little drama queens, then thats their problem to solve.



Well, i guess a way around the rule is to make some legal constructs that techically make someone else the owner, but drain money if he removes the previous player owner from the team using the license.
But then again, those players are like 18 years old and only played PC games all their lives, they will just put trust into someone.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 03 2013 04:19 GMT
#162
Say a lot of things about EG but they aren't idiots, moving Krepo, Snoopeh and Yellowpete to America only to find out later that they can't participate in both LCS? no thats not how they operate, likely there is a third esports organization involved, one that would either take over the European team, or purchase the contracts of the former clg.eu players.

could explain why TL is stepping up their lol coverage. most likely wishful thinking.
Carrilord has arrived.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 03 2013 08:49 GMT
#163
Too bad for TL that leaguepedia is so damn huge, a LoL liquipedia would have no space at all. I'm not sure if they'd ever fully want to feauture a game without a liquipedia. Even the thought of having a TL LoL team is so funny, yet cool.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
December 03 2013 10:31 GMT
#164
On December 03 2013 13:19 Slusher wrote:
Say a lot of things about EG but they aren't idiots, moving Krepo, Snoopeh and Yellowpete to America only to find out later that they can't participate in both LCS? no thats not how they operate, likely there is a third esports organization involved, one that would either take over the European team, or purchase the contracts of the former clg.eu players.

could explain why TL is stepping up their lol coverage. most likely wishful thinking.

The coke league would be fine if they don't make it to the LCS. Still the same eyeballs and marketability.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
December 03 2013 11:58 GMT
#165
On December 03 2013 17:49 UmberBane wrote:
Too bad for TL that leaguepedia is so damn huge, a LoL liquipedia would have no space at all. I'm not sure if they'd ever fully want to feauture a game without a liquipedia. Even the thought of having a TL LoL team is so funny, yet cool.

leaguepedia is not really that good in covering EU tournaments. There still some room left in the whole liquidpedia.LoL that focus on EU/KR/CH market because leaguepedia isnt really good in updating those tournaments/livescore/pick and ban.


But Dexter going to NA is pretty sure right now after his Facebook post... still uncertain what is gonna happen with LD team. I still think its gonna be Ocelote money.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 03 2013 12:35 GMT
#166
On December 03 2013 09:47 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:44 LaNague wrote:
what i find more interesting is the rule that a player cant be the license holder.

So if you are an amateur team and somehow manage to get a license, you have to either stop playing or get a manager that then can screw you over so freaking hard.




For example, by selling your license to, lets say EG.



I've seen people bitch about this, but give no alternative to the system that RIOT has. If you want the spot to be owned by the players, than how do you bench someone? How do you replace them when it is clear that they suck/stop trying/have personality conflicts with the team? If all 5 players own the spot - then their roster is locked in, until the end of time, because no one is going to vote themselves out of a team.

Meh this one is really easy. Simple majority rule. If majority of players are in favor of roster changes, they happen. Kicked players lose their ownership then, invited ones get it.
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 12:38:26
December 03 2013 12:38 GMT
#167
On December 03 2013 20:58 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 17:49 UmberBane wrote:
Too bad for TL that leaguepedia is so damn huge, a LoL liquipedia would have no space at all. I'm not sure if they'd ever fully want to feauture a game without a liquipedia. Even the thought of having a TL LoL team is so funny, yet cool.

leaguepedia is not really that good in covering EU tournaments. There still some room left in the whole liquidpedia.LoL that focus on EU/KR/CH market because leaguepedia isnt really good in updating those tournaments/livescore/pick and ban.


But Dexter going to NA is pretty sure right now after his Facebook post... still uncertain what is gonna happen with LD team. I still think its gonna be Ocelote money.

Leaguepedia is not perfect but fine. There is no real need for a liquipedia and I dont think there is the needed manpower either. If someone has the time and wants to do this, he can help out leaguepedia.
Off-season = best season
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 03 2013 14:08 GMT
#168
On December 03 2013 21:38 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 20:58 ExoFun wrote:
On December 03 2013 17:49 UmberBane wrote:
Too bad for TL that leaguepedia is so damn huge, a LoL liquipedia would have no space at all. I'm not sure if they'd ever fully want to feauture a game without a liquipedia. Even the thought of having a TL LoL team is so funny, yet cool.

leaguepedia is not really that good in covering EU tournaments. There still some room left in the whole liquidpedia.LoL that focus on EU/KR/CH market because leaguepedia isnt really good in updating those tournaments/livescore/pick and ban.


But Dexter going to NA is pretty sure right now after his Facebook post... still uncertain what is gonna happen with LD team. I still think its gonna be Ocelote money.

Leaguepedia is not perfect but fine. There is no real need for a liquipedia and I dont think there is the needed manpower either. If someone has the time and wants to do this, he can help out leaguepedia.

Leaguepedia has enough of the market share it's not worth trying to go up against them, even with niche content.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 03 2013 21:54 GMT
#169
On December 03 2013 17:49 UmberBane wrote:
Too bad for TL that leaguepedia is so damn huge, a LoL liquipedia would have no space at all. I'm not sure if they'd ever fully want to feauture a game without a liquipedia. Even the thought of having a TL LoL team is so funny, yet cool.


It's very possible.
ConGee
Profile Joined May 2012
318 Posts
December 11 2013 05:18 GMT
#170
http://naleague.evilgeniuses.gg/
http://league.thealliance.gg/

Well, it's official.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 11 2013 06:51 GMT
#171
Welp, it was as confirmed as it gets back when Naniwa stated in his blog that he doesn't hate LoL anymore.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 11 2013 15:00 GMT
#172
On December 11 2013 15:51 UmberBane wrote:
Welp, it was as confirmed as it gets back when Naniwa stated in his blog that he doesn't hate LoL anymore.


Hilarious.
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