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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 21 2013 11:45 GMT
#161
Well Morello already hints at "nerfhammer on Orianna§§§".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 11:56:15
November 21 2013 11:53 GMT
#162
Which trinkets would work best for bot lane? If both support and adc get yellows, then maybe some dorans ring starts could be possible on annie/zyra supports for a bit of level 2-3 cheese, (just taking turns rewarding river bush before first back) but might be risky if the other side has a scanning trinket.

On the other hand double scanning trinket basically lets you clear the wards every 90s for free, and if both took that it could become very hard for them to keep tri/river warded.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
November 21 2013 11:56 GMT
#163
http://www.twitch.tv/lolgeranimo/profile

Someone was asking about ADC's who talk a lot? This guy is good.
@miicah88
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 21 2013 11:57 GMT
#164
On November 21 2013 18:21 koreasilver wrote:
o I was talking more about your mastery edit, my bad

lol @ GP jungle tho; good luck

The masteries seem exactly the same, save for 1 damage reduction in block, with less points required.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 11:59:04
November 21 2013 11:58 GMT
#165
On November 21 2013 11:55 ItsFunToLose wrote:
If riot misses this opportunity to make a pi joke, I'm going to be so Alaric, I am disappoint.


If the next three patches aren't labeled:
Patch 3.141

Patch 3.1415

Patch 3.14159

I will do nothing but play teemo in ranked for all of sesaon 4.


EDIT:

Hey Ketara, I summon you!

Hybrid penetration marks vs AD marks on teemo.(running 30-0-0 masteries, 26 flat AP from runes(blues/quints). ap/lvl yellows for 17 at level 18. difference in level 1 harass damage?

Difference at level 9? 18?



level 1 teemo vs nasus with 19 armor, 30 MR, dorans shield.

18magic, 52physical, 7 7 7 7 dot damage.

vs

17magic, 56physical, 7 7 7 7 dot damage

-5 MR is like a 2-3% damage increase depending on target MR.


ad runes seem to add ~4 damage per auto, and you lose about 1-2 damage from magic sources(fractionally lower damage from the dot doesn't seem to matter. might total 27 instead of 28. hard to tell in a quick bot game test)


In a real game they'd have a lot more than 19 armor. the Arpen would be less effective than it is at 19 armor, and I would expect the damage gain to be closer to 5 damage per auto than 4.


Can you explain to me why you're using a calculation based on a 19 armour 30 mr lvl 1 nasus? Try 30 armour and 50 mr at least.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
November 21 2013 12:09 GMT
#166
On November 21 2013 20:56 miicah wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/lolgeranimo/profile

Someone was asking about ADC's who talk a lot? This guy is good.


really? when I played with him the other day he played badly and called our team tryhards
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 21 2013 12:22 GMT
#167
Yay patch is out for me lol. I have no idea what is going on this patch xD
Whaaaa?
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
November 21 2013 12:25 GMT
#168
going to stream me learning season 4 in yoloqueue twitch.tv/loldusty
GozoShioda
Profile Joined October 2013
205 Posts
November 21 2013 12:59 GMT
#169
On November 21 2013 21:25 Dusty wrote:
going to stream me learning season 4 in yoloqueue twitch.tv/loldusty


dis guy has a fucking red doge skin
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 13:07:10
November 21 2013 13:03 GMT
#170
is it bad I had no idea the nidalee's going cougar and leaping away was increasing the damage of her jav?

also soraka was my most played support (and my most played until nunu over took her) in season 2, hopefully the buffs make her playable again.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 13:07:15
November 21 2013 13:06 GMT
#171
On November 21 2013 21:59 GozoShioda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 21:25 Dusty wrote:
going to stream me learning season 4 in yoloqueue twitch.tv/loldusty


dis guy has a fucking red doge skin


such guide follow
many effective
much wow
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 21 2013 13:12 GMT
#172
On November 21 2013 22:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
is it bad I had no idea the nidalee's going cougar and leaping away was increasing the damage of her jav?

also soraka was my most played support (and my most played until nunu over took her) in season 2, hopefully the buffs make her playable again.



She is alright right now, but yeah i definitely hope i can play her more aswell. Too much fun abusing heals
hi
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 21 2013 13:15 GMT
#173
On November 21 2013 22:12 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 22:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
is it bad I had no idea the nidalee's going cougar and leaping away was increasing the damage of her jav?

also soraka was my most played support (and my most played until nunu over took her) in season 2, hopefully the buffs make her playable again.



She is alright right now, but yeah i definitely hope i can play her more aswell. Too much fun abusing heals


i really hate soraka as a core concept. i think healing supports are just really really bad for the game. it takes 0 skill to restore someones hp when they are missing it and theres no alternative use for sorakas heals. they are just dull and boring.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 13:18:07
November 21 2013 13:16 GMT
#174
soraka is way more fun when you start focusing mostly on using starcall instead of being a healbot
though they nerfed starcall pretty hard it reduces your heal cd now at least
like QWQ W>Q soraka is gonna be even better I hope as long as you get max CDR and pretty tanky (spirit visage maybe hue)
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
November 21 2013 13:18 GMT
#175
Pre-season changes are so confusing T_T
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 13:21:31
November 21 2013 13:21 GMT
#176
Uhm.

Wouldn't the duolane both just start with the Relic Shield now? Super easy lasthitting, good sustain and a ton more gold for both of them.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 21 2013 13:23 GMT
#177
On November 21 2013 21:25 Dusty wrote:
going to stream me learning season 4 in yoloqueue twitch.tv/loldusty

Too many lags. More lags than I ever ever could stand.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
November 21 2013 13:24 GMT
#178
I think the philo stone item is better in terms of gold income and probably the mana regen is better than the heal too
maybe with some melee supports that get harassed and pushed out early double relic shield is a good idea
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 21 2013 13:28 GMT
#179
Pretty excited about the changes, and while it is obv way too early to really judge I´m kinda sceptical solo laners should start with a 60 sec ward for free now. Before it was kinda a trade off to either go any of the dorans and be more of a presence in lane or get a ward and some pots or sth.
For Nasus for example this seems like a massive buff. Also Zed can now start dorans blade, pot, ward lol. In lanes where he can go aggresive very early, this is a massive buff without any tradeoffs.
Or is this just an elegant way to reduce multiple health pots starts ? Doran items buffed and cheaper, free ward = people will start with less health pots.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
November 21 2013 13:29 GMT
#180
Nasus didn't really need a ward and his lifesteal got nerfed, and people can play more aggressively early with their free ward
so overall a decently big nerf
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