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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 21 2013 14:17 GMT
#201
Sona shits on Soraka for the first 7 levels, so no wonder there's wtf from your PoV l0l


You can't just blindly pick Soraka right now, too many counters yo
hi
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 14:21:57
November 21 2013 14:19 GMT
#202
or just be a fucking man and use starcall out dps sona you little bitch
even if you don't win you outpush and sona doesn't work well vs pushed lanes because creeps stop your Q and you can't support a gank well

edit: I have no idea why they nerfed sorakas worst spells lewl
and tarics heal seemed to have got nerfed a lot even though you need like 1k bonus hp to bring it back to its old value
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 21 2013 14:20 GMT
#203
On November 21 2013 23:07 kaos00 wrote:
Anyone else worried that with all the XP changes games will now take forever to finish? It seems like there is room for double digit throws each game in S4.

So nothing would change in NA LCS
Glorious SEA doto
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 21 2013 14:22 GMT
#204
On November 21 2013 23:19 Slayer91 wrote:
or just be a fucking man and use starcall out dps sona you little bitch
even if you don't win you outpush and sona doesn't work well vs pushed lanes because creeps stop your Q and you can't support a gank well

Creeps don't stop sona q wtf.It autotargets champs in range lol.

Soraka with barrier/exh(ign) is so baller.I highly recommend.Just go kill them lvl 1/2.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 14:25:24
November 21 2013 14:24 GMT
#205
barrier flash is better, having no escape on soraka is silly because junglers
Sona Q prioritizes champions within a certain range but her effective range on Q is much longer when there are no creeps around
im not sure if its a bug or something but it feels like the range to hit champs with creeps around is only a little higher than your auto range
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
November 21 2013 14:32 GMT
#206
Dont like the first masteries in the new defensive tree, reducing dmg from creeps is probably the best choice now for every role lol

Also exhaust is fucking terrible now. Since there is no -10MR/ARM reduction by picking the summoner mastery. Other than that its ok I guess
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 14:42:10
November 21 2013 14:33 GMT
#207
the 5% bonus armour/mr is by far the best for any tank wtf
for 2 points even with just 50 of each you're getting the same as the 3 point thing that gives +5 armour/mr
if you're like malphite or taric or rammus or garen or leona or anything with lots of resists from spells or otherwise its insanely good for 2 points

edit: anyone notice how useless tarics R is now that the only AP ratio he has after using R to use that 70 AP is E which has a 0.2 AP ratio. (0.4 if you max range stun but who does that lol), and Q which is like 0.3.
At least the 70 AD bonus is still beast.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 21 2013 14:46 GMT
#208
the defense tree looks the strongest by far, offense looks the worst. Also when is elo resetting wtf
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 21 2013 14:47 GMT
#209
everyone will just get 9 in offensive tree for the bonus AD/AP and then got 21 uti or 21 def np
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 21 2013 14:55 GMT
#210
Offense might be bad, but you still gotta take it if you wanna dish teh damages against an opposing team full of 21 deffers :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 21 2013 15:01 GMT
#211
On November 21 2013 23:55 Osmoses wrote:
Offense might be bad, but you still gotta take it if you wanna dish teh damages against an opposing team full of 21 deffers :p

Or everyone takes 21 defence and now they can't dish out the damages, 10 minute teamfights incoming.
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 21 2013 15:02 GMT
#212
Eh, I'm probably back to 9-0-21 on a bunch of midlaners, like Viktor. Tbh if the utility CDR wasn't that high I'd probably do 9-11-10 or 9-12-9.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
November 21 2013 15:03 GMT
#213
On November 22 2013 00:01 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 23:55 Osmoses wrote:
Offense might be bad, but you still gotta take it if you wanna dish teh damages against an opposing team full of 21 deffers :p

Or everyone takes 21 defence and now they can't dish out the damages, 10 minute teamfights incoming.


are we going back to the meta of 10 tank/bruisers standing next to each other awkward for a few minutes while sunfire burns?
TranslatorBaa!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 15:08:31
November 21 2013 15:05 GMT
#214
I understand why Riot nerfs base attack speed (sort of). That could be fixed if they just added a mastery that gave increased attack speed for like a second for hitting a minion or something.

Also, Soraka can hard counter some assassins. If you can get an E in the silence totally dumps on their combo. Works well if you put Trist or some other farm/safe AD mid and throw a mana hungry AP with Soraka duo bot lane. Been playing around with it in ranked since end of season, so much rage from enemy bot lanes.
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 21 2013 15:09 GMT
#215
My Leona page:

Utility:
Fleet of Foot
Scout
Summoners Insight
Alchemist
Greed
Culinary Master
Scavenger
Wealth
Inspiration

Defense:
Block
Recovery
Unyielding
Veteran Scars
Juggernaut
Hardiness
Perseverance 2/3


My DEEEEEEPS support page:

Offense:
Sorcery
Expose Weakness
Mental Force
Arcane Mastery

Utility:
Fleet of Foot
Scout
Summoners Insight
Alchemist
Greed
Culinary Master
Scavenger
Wealth
Inspiration
Bandit
Intelligence
Wanderer


Generic tank/initiator/bruiser page:

Defense:
Block
Recovery
Unyielding
Veteran Scars
Juggernaut
Hardiness
Resistance 2/3
Perseverance
Swiftness
Reinforced Armor
Runic Shield
Legendary Guardian

Utility:
Fleet of Foot
Scout
Summoners Insight
Alchemist
Culinary Master

Thoughts?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
November 21 2013 15:09 GMT
#216
On November 22 2013 00:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
I understand why Riot nerfs base attack speed (sort of). That could be fixed if they just added a mastery that gave increased attack speed for like a second for hitting a minion or something.

Also, Soraka can hard counter some assassins. If you can get an E in the silence totally dumps on their combo. Works well if you put Trist or some other farm/safe AD mid and throw a mana hungry AP with Soraka duo bot lane. Been playing around with it in ranked since end of season, so much rage from enemy bot lanes.

They did, it's called Frenzy and its at the top of the Offensive tree.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 21 2013 15:11 GMT
#217
On November 22 2013 00:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
I understand why Riot nerfs base attack speed (sort of). That could be fixed if they just added a mastery that gave increased attack speed for like a second for hitting a minion or something.

Also, Soraka can hard counter some assassins. If you can get an E in the silence totally dumps on their combo. Works well if you put Trist or some other farm/safe AD mid and throw a mana hungry AP with Soraka duo bot lane. Been playing around with it in ranked since end of season, so much rage from enemy bot lanes.

The dragonborns soraka/nid bot is awesome, I sometimes did it when I duo queue in normals (though I normally ended up being the soraka ;_;)
Glorious SEA doto
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
November 21 2013 15:15 GMT
#218
Support Leona
http://dpatti.com/s4/#d7kB36Bv30L
Support Zyra
http://dpatti.com/s4/#Ma5Gv5jBSAvA
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 15:17:10
November 21 2013 15:16 GMT
#219
On November 22 2013 00:09 Ghost-z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
I understand why Riot nerfs base attack speed (sort of). That could be fixed if they just added a mastery that gave increased attack speed for like a second for hitting a minion or something.

Also, Soraka can hard counter some assassins. If you can get an E in the silence totally dumps on their combo. Works well if you put Trist or some other farm/safe AD mid and throw a mana hungry AP with Soraka duo bot lane. Been playing around with it in ranked since end of season, so much rage from enemy bot lanes.

They did, it's called Frenzy and its at the top of the Offensive tree.


Isn't Frenzy on crits?

I think its not a particularly useful one because 10% atkspd is pretty unnoticeable by the time your crit chance is meaningful, unless you're one of those IE first champs.
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Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
November 21 2013 15:17 GMT
#220
On November 22 2013 00:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:09 Ghost-z wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
I understand why Riot nerfs base attack speed (sort of). That could be fixed if they just added a mastery that gave increased attack speed for like a second for hitting a minion or something.

Also, Soraka can hard counter some assassins. If you can get an E in the silence totally dumps on their combo. Works well if you put Trist or some other farm/safe AD mid and throw a mana hungry AP with Soraka duo bot lane. Been playing around with it in ranked since end of season, so much rage from enemy bot lanes.

They did, it's called Frenzy and its at the top of the Offensive tree.


Isn't Frenzy on crits?

Weren't the champs with base AS nerfs all ADCs?
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
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