EPTYou can't just blindly pick Soraka right now, too many counters yo
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
You can't just blindly pick Soraka right now, too many counters yo | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
even if you don't win you outpush and sona doesn't work well vs pushed lanes because creeps stop your Q and you can't support a gank well edit: I have no idea why they nerfed sorakas worst spells lewl and tarics heal seemed to have got nerfed a lot even though you need like 1k bonus hp to bring it back to its old value | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 21 2013 23:07 kaos00 wrote: Anyone else worried that with all the XP changes games will now take forever to finish? It seems like there is room for double digit throws each game in S4. So nothing would change in NA LCS | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On November 21 2013 23:19 Slayer91 wrote: or just be a fucking man and use starcall out dps sona you little bitch even if you don't win you outpush and sona doesn't work well vs pushed lanes because creeps stop your Q and you can't support a gank well Creeps don't stop sona q wtf.It autotargets champs in range lol. Soraka with barrier/exh(ign) is so baller.I highly recommend.Just go kill them lvl 1/2. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
Sona Q prioritizes champions within a certain range but her effective range on Q is much longer when there are no creeps around im not sure if its a bug or something but it feels like the range to hit champs with creeps around is only a little higher than your auto range | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
Also exhaust is fucking terrible now. Since there is no -10MR/ARM reduction by picking the summoner mastery. Other than that its ok I guess | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
for 2 points even with just 50 of each you're getting the same as the 3 point thing that gives +5 armour/mr if you're like malphite or taric or rammus or garen or leona or anything with lots of resists from spells or otherwise its insanely good for 2 points edit: anyone notice how useless tarics R is now that the only AP ratio he has after using R to use that 70 AP is E which has a 0.2 AP ratio. (0.4 if you max range stun but who does that lol), and Q which is like 0.3. At least the 70 AD bonus is still beast. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23404 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 21 2013 23:55 Osmoses wrote: Offense might be bad, but you still gotta take it if you wanna dish teh damages against an opposing team full of 21 deffers :p Or everyone takes 21 defence and now they can't dish out the damages, 10 minute teamfights incoming. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21247 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:01 Fusilero wrote: Or everyone takes 21 defence and now they can't dish out the damages, 10 minute teamfights incoming. are we going back to the meta of 10 tank/bruisers standing next to each other awkward for a few minutes while sunfire burns? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Also, Soraka can hard counter some assassins. If you can get an E in the silence totally dumps on their combo. Works well if you put Trist or some other farm/safe AD mid and throw a mana hungry AP with Soraka duo bot lane. Been playing around with it in ranked since end of season, so much rage from enemy bot lanes. | ||
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Celial
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:05 ticklishmusic wrote: I understand why Riot nerfs base attack speed (sort of). That could be fixed if they just added a mastery that gave increased attack speed for like a second for hitting a minion or something. Also, Soraka can hard counter some assassins. If you can get an E in the silence totally dumps on their combo. Works well if you put Trist or some other farm/safe AD mid and throw a mana hungry AP with Soraka duo bot lane. Been playing around with it in ranked since end of season, so much rage from enemy bot lanes. They did, it's called Frenzy and its at the top of the Offensive tree. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:05 ticklishmusic wrote: I understand why Riot nerfs base attack speed (sort of). That could be fixed if they just added a mastery that gave increased attack speed for like a second for hitting a minion or something. Also, Soraka can hard counter some assassins. If you can get an E in the silence totally dumps on their combo. Works well if you put Trist or some other farm/safe AD mid and throw a mana hungry AP with Soraka duo bot lane. Been playing around with it in ranked since end of season, so much rage from enemy bot lanes. The dragonborns soraka/nid bot is awesome, I sometimes did it when I duo queue in normals (though I normally ended up being the soraka ;_;) | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:09 Ghost-z wrote: They did, it's called Frenzy and its at the top of the Offensive tree. Isn't Frenzy on crits? I think its not a particularly useful one because 10% atkspd is pretty unnoticeable by the time your crit chance is meaningful, unless you're one of those IE first champs. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
Weren't the champs with base AS nerfs all ADCs? | ||
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