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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 21 2013 04:31 GMT
#101
Not a fan of the new support items. They're so binary, either you gave your AP/ranged type support, or you have your tanky support and the items pretty much force you into one of two directions.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 21 2013 04:31 GMT
#102
On November 21 2013 13:13 onlywonderboy wrote:
I understand what Riot is trying to do, but I much prefer Season 4 to the "2014 Season"

I don't get what they're trying to do. Season 4 sounds better
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
November 21 2013 04:32 GMT
#103
On November 21 2013 13:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:13 onlywonderboy wrote:
I understand what Riot is trying to do, but I much prefer Season 4 to the "2014 Season"

I don't get what they're trying to do. Season 4 sounds better

Yeah I agree, it just makes more sense. Although I don't really care either way.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 04:41:37
November 21 2013 04:38 GMT
#104
On November 21 2013 13:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:13 onlywonderboy wrote:
I understand what Riot is trying to do, but I much prefer Season 4 to the "2014 Season"

I don't get what they're trying to do. Season 4 sounds better

It's not Season 94 of the NFL, it's the 2013 NFL season. The are trying to make their nomenclature more in line with traditional sports.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 04:40:05
November 21 2013 04:39 GMT
#105
On November 21 2013 13:11 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm watching TheOddOne's stream and he has over 200K IP. Just thought I would mention that.

On another note, how much IP should I save up for when I'm 30 and need to get a couple rune pages.


The most basic (current) runepage setup - red: AD+Mpen, yellow: armor, blue: MR, quints: AD+AP - set you back about 20k. If you like the game, investing RP in a runepage bundle is highly recommended. You need your IP to buy champions and runes. If you like the game A LOT, load up some RP and buy champions you like or that look cool at the bi-weekly sales.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 04:42:30
November 21 2013 04:41 GMT
#106
On November 21 2013 13:39 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:11 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm watching TheOddOne's stream and he has over 200K IP. Just thought I would mention that.

On another note, how much IP should I save up for when I'm 30 and need to get a couple rune pages.


The most basic (current) runepage setup - red: AD/Mpen, yellow: armor, blue: MR, quints: AD/AP - set you back about 20k. If you like the game, investing RP in a runepage bundle is highly recommended. You need your IP to buy champions and runes. If you like the game A LOT, load up some RP and buy champions you like or that look cool at the bi-weekly sales.

Already bought $25 worth of RP

So yeah I like the game. I wanted a few heroes and I knew I would be needing to save IP for runes and that buying champions with IP was delaying that.

20k doesn't sound bad, hopefully I will be able to get at least 2 pages when I hit 30.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 21 2013 04:42 GMT
#107
On November 21 2013 13:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:39 Celial wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:11 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm watching TheOddOne's stream and he has over 200K IP. Just thought I would mention that.

On another note, how much IP should I save up for when I'm 30 and need to get a couple rune pages.


The most basic (current) runepage setup - red: AD/Mpen, yellow: armor, blue: MR, quints: AD/AP - set you back about 20k. If you like the game, investing RP in a runepage bundle is highly recommended. You need your IP to buy champions and runes. If you like the game A LOT, load up some RP and buy champions you like or that look cool at the bi-weekly sales.

Already bought $25 worth of RP

So yeah I like the game. I wanted a few heroes and I knew I would be needing to save IP for runes and that buying champions with IP was delaying that.

How dare you spend money on a game you're enjoying.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
November 21 2013 04:43 GMT
#108
On November 21 2013 13:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:41 TheEmulator wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:39 Celial wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:11 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm watching TheOddOne's stream and he has over 200K IP. Just thought I would mention that.

On another note, how much IP should I save up for when I'm 30 and need to get a couple rune pages.


The most basic (current) runepage setup - red: AD/Mpen, yellow: armor, blue: MR, quints: AD/AP - set you back about 20k. If you like the game, investing RP in a runepage bundle is highly recommended. You need your IP to buy champions and runes. If you like the game A LOT, load up some RP and buy champions you like or that look cool at the bi-weekly sales.

Already bought $25 worth of RP

So yeah I like the game. I wanted a few heroes and I knew I would be needing to save IP for runes and that buying champions with IP was delaying that.

How dare you spend money on a game you're enjoying.

lol, I know right. Spending money on a free game, what dis.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 21 2013 04:43 GMT
#109
On November 21 2013 13:19 Dusty wrote:
mhm, she's like draven in the sense that since she gets gold so fast so her late-game comes sooner, doesn't mean her lategame is strong.

6 item. With aoe dmg, and 700 range... dunno how you could say that's not amazing. She also snowballs fights hard, dat ms is ridic.
liftlift > tsm
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 21 2013 04:44 GMT
#110
Don't be a fool like me and go out of your way and buy runes (especially quints) just to be able to try this really weird but cool build out. It was pre-buff jungle Mundo and I bought spellvamp quints. Most recently I tried Snoopehs weird Zac runepage, with CDR blues and MR quints. Don't be like me. 8[
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 04:50:24
November 21 2013 04:46 GMT
#111
On November 21 2013 13:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:39 Celial wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:11 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm watching TheOddOne's stream and he has over 200K IP. Just thought I would mention that.

On another note, how much IP should I save up for when I'm 30 and need to get a couple rune pages.


The most basic (current) runepage setup - red: AD/Mpen, yellow: armor, blue: MR, quints: AD/AP - set you back about 20k. If you like the game, investing RP in a runepage bundle is highly recommended. You need your IP to buy champions and runes. If you like the game A LOT, load up some RP and buy champions you like or that look cool at the bi-weekly sales.

Already bought $25 worth of RP

So yeah I like the game. I wanted a few heroes and I knew I would be needing to save IP for runes and that buying champions with IP was delaying that.

20k doesn't sound bad, hopefully I will be able to get at least 2 pages when I hit 30.


I should clarify: The 20k are JUST the runes. One set of AD reds, one set of MPen reds. One set of armor yellows, One set of (flat) MR blues. One set of AD quints and one set of AP quints.

Runepages are 6300 IP each.


On November 21 2013 13:43 TheEmulator wrote:

lol, I know right. Spending money on a free game, what dis.



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Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 21 2013 04:50 GMT
#112
For some extremely random and probably non-representative math:

So I got the Skyrim when it came out like two years ago for like $60. I played it for maybe 100 hours, which works out to about $0.60 per hour of play. I play it occasionally still, so I'll tack on a 0.8 multiplier for a total of about $0.48/hour on entertainment.

On the other hand I got Brood War like a bajillion years ago for $20 (I probably have bought 2 or 3 copies though). Math is a little annoying, but let's say I played an average of 4 hours a week from 4th until 11th grade, for a total of about 1700 hours. Divided out, that's about a penny per hour of entertainment.

Let's look at League. I've got like 800 ranked wins (last check), so we'll say that with a winrate of around 55% I have around 1400 ranked games played, each taking about half an hour for a total of at least 700 hours spent playing League. Using the number from Skyrim, I am justified to spend about $350 on League. If I do the cost/hour with Brood War though, I can get a happy meal.

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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 04:54:21
November 21 2013 04:53 GMT
#113
I have 1300 hours on tf2 which I bought for 10 bucks. It's how I justify buying keys for more hats.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 21 2013 04:54 GMT
#114
On November 21 2013 13:41 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:39 Celial wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:11 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm watching TheOddOne's stream and he has over 200K IP. Just thought I would mention that.

On another note, how much IP should I save up for when I'm 30 and need to get a couple rune pages.


The most basic (current) runepage setup - red: AD/Mpen, yellow: armor, blue: MR, quints: AD/AP - set you back about 20k. If you like the game, investing RP in a runepage bundle is highly recommended. You need your IP to buy champions and runes. If you like the game A LOT, load up some RP and buy champions you like or that look cool at the bi-weekly sales.

Already bought $25 worth of RP

So yeah I like the game. I wanted a few heroes and I knew I would be needing to save IP for runes and that buying champions with IP was delaying that.

20k doesn't sound bad, hopefully I will be able to get at least 2 pages when I hit 30.

They sometimes have 2-for-1 rune pages on sale which is the most IP efficient way to spend RP (aside from skins which have no purchasable IP cost equivalent). This is followed by the 6300 IP champions on RP sale.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 05:12:39
November 21 2013 05:11 GMT
#115
IP for champs is efficient (at least, with IP boost conversion) for champ below 6300 IP (though if they're on RP sale, 4800 is more efficient on RP, I believe), but time investment obviously ties into it. The sooner you want the content, the more you spend with RP. I've only really spent RP on skins/rune page bundles, and I still don't have all the champs (the ip grinding mang, 14 more 6.3ks to go). Though tbh, the champs I would still buy would probably be for like 1 game after buying then leaving them in my pool.

The actual champion bundles that Riot still sells, while filled with the older, "classic" champs, are also pretty damn efficient, plus both the Tristana+Alistar giveaways (for liking on facebook and subscribing to the Riot Youtube channel) are still running.

Incidentally, the LoL Amex deal for free RP (with a measly prepaid card) is still available. I just haven't been able to utilize it because they're asking for SSN documentation which I don't have on hand lol.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 21 2013 05:18 GMT
#116
On November 21 2013 14:11 Lord Tolkien wrote:
IP for champs is efficient (at least, with IP boost conversion) for champ below 6300 IP (though if they're on RP sale, 4800 is more efficient on RP, I believe), but time investment obviously ties into it. The sooner you want the content, the more you spend with RP. I've only really spent RP on skins/rune page bundles, and I still don't have all the champs (the ip grinding mang, 14 more 6.3ks to go). Though tbh, the champs I would still buy would probably be for like 1 game after buying then leaving them in my pool.

The actual champion bundles that Riot still sells, while filled with the older, "classic" champs, are also pretty damn efficient, plus both the Tristana+Alistar giveaways (for liking on facebook and subscribing to the Riot Youtube channel) are still running.

Incidentally, the LoL Amex deal for free RP (with a measly prepaid card) is still available. I just haven't been able to utilize it because they're asking for SSN documentation which I don't have on hand lol.


Yea you need the SSN so the government can tax you!

But I got like 12000? IP from it so far, and spent no money, except using the card to buy like coffee I would buy neways.
Freeeeeeedom
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
November 21 2013 05:27 GMT
#117
On November 21 2013 13:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:19 Dusty wrote:
mhm, she's like draven in the sense that since she gets gold so fast so her late-game comes sooner, doesn't mean her lategame is strong.

6 item. With aoe dmg, and 700 range... dunno how you could say that's not amazing. She also snowballs fights hard, dat ms is ridic.


Jinx makes me real sour about the nerfs to Kog Maw's range ages ago... I know there's supposed to be a tradeoff where even though her range has 100% uptime (and she can have it at level 9 like Kog) her attack speed is lower, but having 700 range is just awesome and the teamfight AoE makes up for the attack speed loss. If you're getting dived you're gonna switch to minigun anyways and root > slow.

It's just not fair. =(
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 21 2013 05:29 GMT
#118
On November 21 2013 14:11 Lord Tolkien wrote:
IP for champs is efficient (at least, with IP boost conversion) for champ below 6300 IP (though if they're on RP sale, 4800 is more efficient on RP, I believe), but time investment obviously ties into it. The sooner you want the content, the more you spend with RP. I've only really spent RP on skins/rune page bundles, and I still don't have all the champs (the ip grinding mang, 14 more 6.3ks to go). Though tbh, the champs I would still buy would probably be for like 1 game after buying then leaving them in my pool.

The actual champion bundles that Riot still sells, while filled with the older, "classic" champs, are also pretty damn efficient, plus both the Tristana+Alistar giveaways (for liking on facebook and subscribing to the Riot Youtube channel) are still running.

Incidentally, the LoL Amex deal for free RP (with a measly prepaid card) is still available. I just haven't been able to utilize it because they're asking for SSN documentation which I don't have on hand lol.

They didn't ask me for documentation IIRC. I just called them and told them I had an AmEx card already and they looked up the information from that.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 21 2013 05:34 GMT
#119
On November 21 2013 14:27 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 13:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:19 Dusty wrote:
mhm, she's like draven in the sense that since she gets gold so fast so her late-game comes sooner, doesn't mean her lategame is strong.

6 item. With aoe dmg, and 700 range... dunno how you could say that's not amazing. She also snowballs fights hard, dat ms is ridic.


Jinx makes me real sour about the nerfs to Kog Maw's range ages ago... I know there's supposed to be a tradeoff where even though her range has 100% uptime (and she can have it at level 9 like Kog) her attack speed is lower, but having 700 range is just awesome and the teamfight AoE makes up for the attack speed loss. If you're getting dived you're gonna switch to minigun anyways and root > slow.

It's just not fair. =(


I actually really have a huge distaste for Riot's recent trend of nerfing the base attack speeed (or just releasing champs with terrible base AS) for ranged ADCs. I know it is part of their plan to smooth out power curves, but it makes lvl 1 so incredibly woeful.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 21 2013 05:44 GMT
#120
On November 21 2013 14:34 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 14:27 phyvo wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 21 2013 13:19 Dusty wrote:
mhm, she's like draven in the sense that since she gets gold so fast so her late-game comes sooner, doesn't mean her lategame is strong.

6 item. With aoe dmg, and 700 range... dunno how you could say that's not amazing. She also snowballs fights hard, dat ms is ridic.


Jinx makes me real sour about the nerfs to Kog Maw's range ages ago... I know there's supposed to be a tradeoff where even though her range has 100% uptime (and she can have it at level 9 like Kog) her attack speed is lower, but having 700 range is just awesome and the teamfight AoE makes up for the attack speed loss. If you're getting dived you're gonna switch to minigun anyways and root > slow.

It's just not fair. =(


I actually really have a huge distaste for Riot's recent trend of nerfing the base attack speeed (or just releasing champs with terrible base AS) for ranged ADCs. I know it is part of their plan to smooth out power curves, but it makes lvl 1 so incredibly woeful.

I used to run the 4% cdr on cait before her base as nerf.
Then the nerf hit, god it was painful. Now I run the 4% attck speed mastery, otherwise I want to punch babies.
liftlift > tsm
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