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[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 44

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chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
November 01 2013 12:20 GMT
#861
Is anyone aware of a good guide for how to set up a stream?

I'd like to set it up for inhouses and stuff.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 01 2013 12:24 GMT
#862
On November 01 2013 16:47 Cixah wrote:
I freaking love new heimer. Maxing rockets first is wrong. I just go Froggen Farming status with turret max and push all day. 180 cs at 20 minutes, and inhib down 4 games in a row. Disregard team fights. Acquire mid lane inhib.


This is what I've had success with so far
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
November 01 2013 12:28 GMT
#863
Am I the only one who thinks the changes are a significant nerf to support in general? As in, s3 supports are more impactful than s4 supports.

You lose unlimited access to the most powerful scaling-independent purchases in the game.

You lose most of the tools to play the vision game, which used to be a main part of your duties. Now it is squarely in the hands of your teammates. If you are in low Elo, pray they even remember to use the ward. Part of your duty now is to remind your top laner that it is off cooldown.

But hey you got some gold, I guess you could buy some AP or health.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 01 2013 12:29 GMT
#864
good changes, fuck buying wards all day, you might as well play a small rodent and run around warding with no items
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 01 2013 12:44 GMT
#865
On November 01 2013 21:29 Slayer91 wrote:
good changes, fuck buying wards all day, you might as well play a small rodent and run around warding with no items


that's how I play support
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 12:50:08
November 01 2013 12:49 GMT
#866
also sona got nerfed pretty bad it seems. She lost some of her heal and power chord damage, and her ap ratios are even worse (q +passive ap ratio is the same, R is worse), oh well, maybe taric and soraka are viable again I wouldn't mind going back to playing those.
(tarics passive seems meh though, worse than it was before with no real mana items and just autoing for -3 seconds on heal, but who knows)
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
November 01 2013 12:59 GMT
#867
On November 01 2013 21:29 Slayer91 wrote:
good changes, fuck buying wards all day, you might as well play a small rodent and run around warding with no items


I played Trader if anyone here knows the old Warcraft 3 Battleships game!!! Basically you're a civilian ship that gets 1-shot by any opponent but you make a shitload of gold to donate to allies. Even got to donate it as you see fit rather than even distribution which was fun.

So yeah I have a lot of experience playing the small rodent running around warding and nothing else.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
November 01 2013 13:04 GMT
#868
With all these sweeping changes I'd say it's impossible to discern whats a nerf/buff and what's simply a change. I'm really looking forward to figuring that shit out though.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 01 2013 13:05 GMT
#869
On November 01 2013 21:49 Slayer91 wrote:
also sona got nerfed pretty bad it seems. She lost some of her heal and power chord damage, and her ap ratios are even worse (q +passive ap ratio is the same, R is worse), oh well, maybe taric and soraka are viable again I wouldn't mind going back to playing those.
(tarics passive seems meh though, worse than it was before with no real mana items and just autoing for -3 seconds on heal, but who knows)


It's very obvious that the numbers on Reignofgaming for the changes are not accurate re: Janna.

I wouldn't make any numbers predictions just yet.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 01 2013 13:14 GMT
#870
On November 01 2013 21:20 chinstrap wrote:
Is anyone aware of a good guide for how to set up a stream?

I'd like to set it up for inhouses and stuff.


Look up R1CH's guide to OBS on TL. Search 'OBS' or 'Open Broadcasting Software.' Don't forget to get a good webcam!
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yawn
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada200 Posts
November 01 2013 13:17 GMT
#871
Just noticed this change in the PBE notes. Vision wards limited to 1 placed on the map

How are we supposed to deal with eve ganks with only 1 pink being placed per team. It's one placed per team right? not per person?
aka xusic
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 01 2013 13:20 GMT
#872
On November 01 2013 22:17 yawn wrote:
Just noticed this change in the PBE notes. Vision wards limited to 1 placed on the map

How are we supposed to deal with eve ganks with only 1 pink being placed per team. It's one placed per team right? not per person?


you permaban
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1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
November 01 2013 13:20 GMT
#873
On November 01 2013 22:17 yawn wrote:
Just noticed this change in the PBE notes. Vision wards limited to 1 placed on the map

How are we supposed to deal with eve ganks with only 1 pink being placed per team. It's one placed per team right? not per person?

I don't think Riot will ever place team-wide limits on items. Can you imagine the trolling between teammates counter-warding each other?
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
November 01 2013 13:20 GMT
#874
Pretty sure its per person. Doesn't really mean anything though as the new pink wards won't do shit against eve. Even if you have total control and your opponent can't kill it she still knows where it is. Eve prob gonna get nerfed into oblivion then reworked again.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 01 2013 13:35 GMT
#875
knowing where the pink wards are is pretty inexplicable. i can see how it makes clearing vision easier and less costly for the team from behind, but it also makes predicting vision more easy mode. the vision game is just entirely new with the loltrinkets and visible pinks.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
November 01 2013 13:41 GMT
#876
On November 01 2013 22:35 oneofthem wrote:
knowing where the pink wards are is pretty inexplicable. i can see how it makes clearing vision easier and less costly for the team from behind, but it also makes predicting vision more easy mode. the vision game is just entirely new with the loltrinkets and visible pinks.

I actually like it. Pinks are now not simply a stronger version of greens and a team will need a combination of pinks and greens to control vision, and even then, they can't rely on 100% vision to control a game from the first advantage they get. Currently, games are turned on a single successful gank vs unsuccessful gank into tower vs no tower into dragon vs no dragon. While there is more uncertainty in a game, there are more opportunities for a better team to outplay a lesser team despite early FBs and the initial gank lotteries.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22093 Posts
November 01 2013 13:58 GMT
#877
On November 01 2013 22:41 1ntrigue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:35 oneofthem wrote:
knowing where the pink wards are is pretty inexplicable. i can see how it makes clearing vision easier and less costly for the team from behind, but it also makes predicting vision more easy mode. the vision game is just entirely new with the loltrinkets and visible pinks.

I actually like it. Pinks are now not simply a stronger version of greens and a team will need a combination of pinks and greens to control vision, and even then, they can't rely on 100% vision to control a game from the first advantage they get. Currently, games are turned on a single successful gank vs unsuccessful gank into tower vs no tower into dragon vs no dragon. While there is more uncertainty in a game, there are more opportunities for a better team to outplay a lesser team despite early FBs and the initial gank lotteries.


For ward wars seeing where the pink is isnt that big of a deal but when your a Twitch or Eve ganking it is huge.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 01 2013 14:17 GMT
#878
On November 01 2013 22:05 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 21:49 Slayer91 wrote:
also sona got nerfed pretty bad it seems. She lost some of her heal and power chord damage, and her ap ratios are even worse (q +passive ap ratio is the same, R is worse), oh well, maybe taric and soraka are viable again I wouldn't mind going back to playing those.
(tarics passive seems meh though, worse than it was before with no real mana items and just autoing for -3 seconds on heal, but who knows)


It's very obvious that the numbers on Reignofgaming for the changes are not accurate re: Janna.

I wouldn't make any numbers predictions just yet.


when I read RoG janna ap ratio for AD for 0.33, not 0.9.
That is probably still too high because mid janna+any adc with ie+lw would just be bonkers
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 14:51:00
November 01 2013 14:23 GMT
#879
Taric's Imbue got raped why ;;

Also RoG has formatted their post, and it includes PBE "patch notes" posts from Riot, which are more readable and include the correct ratios.

So as Vi I knock J4 back during his dash. I hit first, I'm still knocked-up right after he's knocked-back. Wtf.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 01 2013 14:26 GMT
#880
I can't wait to play new Soraka. The clutch heals will be amaaaazing~
It's your boy Guzma!
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