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[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 42

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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 01 2013 06:24 GMT
#821
We still have to sit at the back of the forum though.

We need a mod to move up our forum above the Dota, and then surrender his modship before he would move us back to the back. Like Rosa Parks.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 06:31:47
November 01 2013 06:26 GMT
#822
Blizzard has good cutscenes, but their stories are like lackluster Hollywood scripts. Same old shit with no real originality there. At least the BW storyline made sense and was really great, even though the original premise (aliens (protoss) vs predators (zerg) vs humans (terren)) thing was unoroginal. But all new blizz games stories are just, ugh. Like D3 they literally introduced a new main character only to have her actually be diablo. Like....okay, Blizz. That was anticlimatic and retarded. That's like aragorn turning out to be sauron for no real reason other than "haha! You fools! I have surprised you!"

You totally know there was some storywritter rubbing his hands together thinking he was being clever.

Edit: Oh god why did they ruin my dog.

But at least we are under "Games General" and not "Other Games." Moving up in the world!
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 01 2013 06:29 GMT
#823
I never really got into stories on any game. I just want to play an entertaining game, and blizz always delivers on that
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 01 2013 06:35 GMT
#824
On November 01 2013 15:26 BlackPaladin wrote:
Blizzard has good cutscenes, but their stories are like lackluster Hollywood scripts. Same old shit with no real originality there. At least the BW storyline made sense and was really great, even though the original premise (aliens (protoss) vs predators (zerg) vs humans (terren)) thing was unoroginal. But all new blizz games stories are just, ugh. Like D3 they literally introduced a new main character only to have her actually be diablo. Like....okay, Blizz. That was anticlimatic and retarded. That's like aragorn turning out to be sauron for no real reason other than "haha! You fools! I have surprised you!"

You totally know there was some storywritter rubbing his hands together thinking he was being clever.

Edit: Oh god why did they ruin my dog.

But at least we are under "Games General" and not "Other Games." Moving up in the world!


Blizz stories are not Oscar winners, but, like I siad, they are better than Transformers 3, which is better than like 50% of other Hollywood stuff.
Freeeeeeedom
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2555 Posts
November 01 2013 06:43 GMT
#825
This rework, man. It makes heimer even less fun to play. Now he's a good laner but honestly sucks in team fights. He's a two-spell wonder that has massive cooldowns. He's completely outclassed by any other mid in a scuffle. It's quite unfortunate.
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IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
November 01 2013 06:56 GMT
#826
What exactly happens for ranked games for the preseason of lol? Do u play placement matches or Is just like a beta for game changes with no ranked till the actual season starts?
Moar banelings less qq
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 07:06:33
November 01 2013 07:01 GMT
#827
Hmm just had a Sivir for the first time... Why does the chinese splashscreen art look incredible / cool / whoa and the international splashscreen art looks like a turkey?

On November 01 2013 15:43 Hyperbola wrote:
This rework, man. It makes heimer even less fun to play. Now he's a good laner but honestly sucks in team fights. He's a two-spell wonder that has massive cooldowns. He's completely outclassed by any other mid in a scuffle. It's quite unfortunate.

I don't think he even is a good laner. Rockets feel impossible to hit properly and if you only hit a few they deal very low dmg... Even so it's possible to dodge by being behind minions. The turrets, well I feel like they suck... The beams are extremely easy to dodge and you have NOTHING that prevents the opponent from just moving back and forth between every attack and taking them out(they deal incredibly low dmg) unless you happen to predict correctly with a grenade and the rockets and it's still not a big deal. The turret recharge rate at higher levels is way too slow. It takes ages to get 3 turrets up and they're extremely easy to kill.

And well yeah, teamfights... His turrets deal no dmg and his new ult is much worse than the old one. You can get a 4th turret but it has no CC(unlike my remake idea where the ult turrets first shot would be a knockup) and your E stun radius is extremely tiny so that really doesn't help. I guess you could use like, his ult E but it shares cooldown with the normal skills(wtf) unlike with turret so using the ult turret is the only way you will actually get an extra skill off.




On the topic of stories, I think all of blizzard's recent games have been horrible. I think you shouldn't compare to holliwood movies(very very low level of stories in general). If it's a war game, i would compare it to something like The Twelve Kingdoms(anime / novel, aka Juuni Kokuki). Something that makes you care for the characters and much more brutal / tragic that has a sense of reality.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 01 2013 07:07 GMT
#828
On November 01 2013 15:24 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We still have to sit at the back of the forum though.

We need a mod to move up our forum above the Dota, and then surrender his modship before he would move us back to the back. Like Rosa Parks.

You know you can move it to what ever order you want, right?
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 01 2013 07:20 GMT
#829
On November 01 2013 15:56 IamPryda wrote:
What exactly happens for ranked games for the preseason of lol? Do u play placement matches or Is just like a beta for game changes with no ranked till the actual season starts?

whether there will be a set of placement matches probably depends on what kind of reset they do. I don't know whether they'll do the reset at the start of the preseason or the end this time, but after it occurs, it will be s4 ranked, just not called that.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 01 2013 07:24 GMT
#830
On November 01 2013 16:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 15:56 IamPryda wrote:
What exactly happens for ranked games for the preseason of lol? Do u play placement matches or Is just like a beta for game changes with no ranked till the actual season starts?

whether there will be a set of placement matches probably depends on what kind of reset they do. I don't know whether they'll do the reset at the start of the preseason or the end this time, but after it occurs, it will be s4 ranked, just not called that.


iirc it was a soft reset last time, where

New Elo = (Old Elo+1200)/2

Now that you can't see it any more though, I'd imagine the next best thing is to take LKS into the same formula, so diamond ends up high gold-plat, plat->low gold/high silver, and so on and so forth.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
November 01 2013 07:28 GMT
#831
Pretty sure they said it was gonna be a soft-reset, i don't see a point anymore, in doing a hard-reset back to 1200 for everyone. Will make it very painful for my enemy/enemies (hue).
hi
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 07:36:37
November 01 2013 07:35 GMT
#832
derp wrong thread
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 01 2013 07:39 GMT
#833
On November 01 2013 16:24 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 16:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 01 2013 15:56 IamPryda wrote:
What exactly happens for ranked games for the preseason of lol? Do u play placement matches or Is just like a beta for game changes with no ranked till the actual season starts?

whether there will be a set of placement matches probably depends on what kind of reset they do. I don't know whether they'll do the reset at the start of the preseason or the end this time, but after it occurs, it will be s4 ranked, just not called that.


iirc it was a soft reset last time, where

New Elo = (Old Elo+1200)/2

Now that you can't see it any more though, I'd imagine the next best thing is to take LKS into the same formula, so diamond ends up high gold-plat, plat->low gold/high silver, and so on and so forth.

Wouldn't it be old elo/2 + 1200 instead? With that system a 1200 elo dude would be reset to 600 o.o
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
November 01 2013 07:43 GMT
#834
On November 01 2013 16:39 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 16:24 Amui wrote:
On November 01 2013 16:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 01 2013 15:56 IamPryda wrote:
What exactly happens for ranked games for the preseason of lol? Do u play placement matches or Is just like a beta for game changes with no ranked till the actual season starts?

whether there will be a set of placement matches probably depends on what kind of reset they do. I don't know whether they'll do the reset at the start of the preseason or the end this time, but after it occurs, it will be s4 ranked, just not called that.


iirc it was a soft reset last time, where

New Elo = (Old Elo+1200)/2

Now that you can't see it any more though, I'd imagine the next best thing is to take LKS into the same formula, so diamond ends up high gold-plat, plat->low gold/high silver, and so on and so forth.

Wouldn't it be old elo/2 + 1200 instead? With that system a 1200 elo dude would be reset to 600 o.o

Err, no?

A 1200 elo person would be reset to 1200 elo.

(1200+1200)/2=1200

LRN2KETARA Shikyo.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
November 01 2013 07:46 GMT
#835
Bit late, but I like the new Nasus VO and dislike the new skin. Take that!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 01 2013 07:47 GMT
#836
I freaking love new heimer. Maxing rockets first is wrong. I just go Froggen Farming status with turret max and push all day. 180 cs at 20 minutes, and inhib down 4 games in a row. Disregard team fights. Acquire mid lane inhib.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 01 2013 07:49 GMT
#837
On November 01 2013 16:39 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 16:24 Amui wrote:
On November 01 2013 16:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 01 2013 15:56 IamPryda wrote:
What exactly happens for ranked games for the preseason of lol? Do u play placement matches or Is just like a beta for game changes with no ranked till the actual season starts?

whether there will be a set of placement matches probably depends on what kind of reset they do. I don't know whether they'll do the reset at the start of the preseason or the end this time, but after it occurs, it will be s4 ranked, just not called that.


iirc it was a soft reset last time, where

New Elo = (Old Elo+1200)/2

Now that you can't see it any more though, I'd imagine the next best thing is to take LKS into the same formula, so diamond ends up high gold-plat, plat->low gold/high silver, and so on and so forth.

Wouldn't it be old elo/2 + 1200 instead? With that system a 1200 elo dude would be reset to 600 o.o


With your formula a 1200 elo person would be reset to 1800
(1200/2) + 1200
600 + 1200 = 1800

I approve of this simply for the hilarity it would cause.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 01 2013 07:49 GMT
#838
On November 01 2013 16:47 Cixah wrote:
I freaking love new heimer. Maxing rockets first is wrong. I just go Froggen Farming status with turret max and push all day. 180 cs at 20 minutes, and inhib down 4 games in a row. Disregard team fights. Acquire mid lane inhib.

Report 6ah for not being a team player. 9 reports = ban, thx.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 07:54:51
November 01 2013 07:50 GMT
#839
On November 01 2013 16:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 16:39 Shikyo wrote:
On November 01 2013 16:24 Amui wrote:
On November 01 2013 16:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 01 2013 15:56 IamPryda wrote:
What exactly happens for ranked games for the preseason of lol? Do u play placement matches or Is just like a beta for game changes with no ranked till the actual season starts?

whether there will be a set of placement matches probably depends on what kind of reset they do. I don't know whether they'll do the reset at the start of the preseason or the end this time, but after it occurs, it will be s4 ranked, just not called that.


iirc it was a soft reset last time, where

New Elo = (Old Elo+1200)/2

Now that you can't see it any more though, I'd imagine the next best thing is to take LKS into the same formula, so diamond ends up high gold-plat, plat->low gold/high silver, and so on and so forth.

Wouldn't it be old elo/2 + 1200 instead? With that system a 1200 elo dude would be reset to 600 o.o


With your formula a 1200 elo person would be reset to 1800
(1200/2) + 1200
600 + 1200 = 1800

I approve of this simply for the hilarity it would cause.




Shikyo cant math! He said (Old elo+1200)/2 not (old elo/2)+1200 there's a slighty difference. A 1200 ELO player would get 1200 ELO...
hi
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 07:56:45
November 01 2013 07:52 GMT
#840
....neo pls, my phone is so retarded ;-; i'm sorry
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
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