EPT[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 298
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 24 2013 02:52 Zdrastochye wrote: Well even if they don't have the intended impact that Riot wishes, you can at least see what areas they're targeting. Will carry-style jungling catch on with the new items? No one knows, but you do know they're working on it. We'll see. Carry style jungle was S3 goal as well. How did that work? | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On October 24 2013 03:11 cLutZ wrote: Carry style jungle was S3 goal as well. How did that work? Nerfs to Xin and Jarvan T_T? But yeah have they not said we want to give junglers more gold for going on three seasons? Good reason to be paranoid. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
I guess we'll just have to see what happens. This isn't super promising though. I think I'm the most interested in a fourth jungle camp. GET READY TO RELEARN ALL THE ROUTES. That or, GET READY TO SAY GOODBYE TO MONSTERS YOU LOVE. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 24 2013 03:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I still don't understand what's so bad about the current system... Too much vision. Support no items. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 24 2013 03:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I still don't understand what's so bad about the current system... Which part? The jungle system is not that bad, it just needs minor tweaks to balance the Farming/Ganking balance of power. Only Meteos has really cracked the code on that, and that is more through taxing than actually jungling. The support system is fine for pros, but makes supports in YOLO feel abused because they start with only consumables, have a core that is dedicated to vision, and the problem with vision is that it is only useful if your team is smart enough to make use of it (aka rarely). | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
That isn't really the fault of the system though. It's more Riots understanding of what a support item needs to be. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 24 2013 03:18 onlywonderboy wrote: Everyone complains about Riot not fulfilling their promises, but I thoroughly enjoyed Season 3 over Season 2. So maybe it won't be perfect, but I doubt they will completely ruin the game (even if we don't agree with all of the changes.) Also true. Important to have mature, level-headed perspective during the UPCOMING TL GD SHITSTORM. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On October 24 2013 03:18 Numy wrote: That isn't really the fault of the system though. It's more Riots understanding of what a support item needs to be. Eh, vision is probably too damn powerful. I'm interested to see how Riot implements the idea of scaling support utility instead of damage. | ||
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TheYango
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 24 2013 03:20 onlywonderboy wrote: Eh, vision is probably too damn powerful. I'm interested to see how Riot implements the idea of scaling support utility instead of damage. Maybe but you have to understand that all the "support" items in S3 are way overpriced and don't really give much benefit. It's hard to see how powerful vision would be if there was decent support items. Stuff like Medallion(In dota) is the perfect price tier. LoL just has nothing in a proper price range. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On October 24 2013 03:21 Numy wrote: Maybe but you have to understand that all the "support" items in S3 are way overpriced and don't really give much benefit. It's not to see how powerful vision would be if there was decent support items. Stuff like Medallion(In dota) is the perfect price tier. LoL just has nothing in a proper price range. Oh yeah, I don't disagree, but Riot seems to at least acknowlesge that might be a problem: we'll also be introducing new items (and refining old ones) to put that gold to good use. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 24 2013 03:20 TheYango wrote: My favorite version of the game was still mid-late season 1 (Ori patch probably the best estimation), and I still have yet to play a version of the game I enjoyed more than that one. Yango confirmed as dirty pirate loving scallywag. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
TL Solution: Lower the cost of support items. Riot Solution: Give supports more gold, and see if they buy the support items. IDK guys, maybe our logic is flawed. | ||
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tissue
Malaysia441 Posts
Since everyone has limited ward buying now, you can train your sixth sense in solo queue. On October 24 2013 03:25 Amui wrote: Problem - support items are too expensive for supports to get, and aren't good enough. TL Solution: Lower the cost of support items. Riot Solution: Give supports more gold, and see if they buy the support items. IDK guys, maybe our logic is flawed. Problem - most powerful support item is a stack of pinks Riot Solution - restrict support warding, spread out warding among all team members, and see if they buy wards | ||
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