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On October 24 2013 01:46 UniversalSnip wrote: I think Garen straight up sucks late, black cleaver or not. Only thing he's good for is padding k/d. He has no special positioning tools and does no damage to anyone but squishies which half the time he can't reach.
Although according to wei2coolman I "must be playing him wrong" because my little aoe isn't overlapping with two vulnerable targets the majority of the time, so if you need tips, hit him up.
fite me
if you think finishing off kills with like the last 1k~ dmg you clearly never played adc because thats ALL they do until like 40 minutes in.
you cant reach squishies because they're little bitches who couldn't last a minute in your world (garens taunt: ILL FUQ YOU TILL YOU LUV ME FAGGET) and have to attempt to burn through your impregnable wall of EHP from W % resist boost and -30% dmg and then when you have some support you can flash onto a carry and Q E ignite R combo i feel their soft flesh collapse against my force - it's ludicrous that these mortals even attempt to enter my realm.
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On October 24 2013 01:16 Roffles wrote: My Blitzcrank es numero uno. One shots Kissblade.
The counter to Kiss is obviously J4.
And please Roffles, we've ALL seen that Blitz video of you.
On October 24 2013 01:50 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 01:46 UniversalSnip wrote: I think Garen straight up sucks late, black cleaver or not. Only thing he's good for is padding k/d. He has no special positioning tools and does no damage to anyone but squishies which half the time he can't reach.
Although according to wei2coolman I "must be playing him wrong" because my little aoe isn't overlapping with two vulnerable targets the majority of the time, so if you need tips, hit him up. fite me if you think finishing off kills with like the last 1k~ dmg you clearly never played adc because thats ALL they do until like 40 minutes in. you cant reach squishies because they're little bitches who couldn't last a minute in your world (garens taunt: ILL FUQ YOU TILL YOU LUV ME FAGGET) and have to attempt to burn through your impregnable wall of EHP from W % resist boost and -30% dmg and then when you have some support you can flash onto a carry and Q E ignite R combo i feel their soft flesh collapse against my force - it's ludicrous that these mortals even attempt to enter my realm.
Props to working in Mike Tyson quotables into your post.
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On October 24 2013 01:50 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 01:46 UniversalSnip wrote: I think Garen straight up sucks late, black cleaver or not. Only thing he's good for is padding k/d. He has no special positioning tools and does no damage to anyone but squishies which half the time he can't reach.
Although according to wei2coolman I "must be playing him wrong" because my little aoe isn't overlapping with two vulnerable targets the majority of the time, so if you need tips, hit him up. fite me if you think finishing off kills with like the last 1k~ dmg you clearly never played adc because thats ALL they do until like 40 minutes in. you cant reach squishies because they're little bitches who couldn't last a minute in your world (garens taunt: ILL FUQ YOU TILL YOU LUV ME FAGGET) and have to attempt to burn through your impregnable wall of EHP from W % resist boost and -30% dmg and then when you have some support you can flash onto a carry and Q E ignite R combo i feel their soft flesh collapse against my force - it's ludicrous that these mortals even attempt to enter my realm. I don't buy the assertion Ad damage in fights is just as back-loaded as Garen ult, and if it were, fine A) the ad can and will do it repeatedly in a single fight if it comes up which is kinda nice B) 40 minutes lol C) Fite Me D) dropping all your cds on someone takes a peelable amount of time unlike with true bullshit heroes so even with flash the reliability is limited E) you think garen is more manly than say singed who is a honey badger with rockets, what the fuck. Only thing Garen has that makes him manly is the brave face punch, which I'm not even sure they kept. Plus he yells like someone threw ice water on his nuts when he spins now, "awarawarawar"
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You guys are arguing about Garen and Singed and I'm just sitting here being the most manly top lane character.
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ad carries spend like 5 mins dancing at the back for "positioning" and then when everyones done all the work they run in and clean up on people too low hp to fight back
pah how is singed manly you just run around the place you dont even hit things with your stick let alone with a big sword "peelable amount of time" I said WITH SUPPORT i.e more than one person. you cant peel everyone and silence means the adc cant flash away or anything fresh meat
the new garen sounds and animations and look suck but that wasnt my decision
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Yah they do it better though, for example, they do it to three dudes in a row, and they come from bot lane where a dude does basically nothing but babysit them to feed him money. You need a lot to make the role of sucking up last hits a desirable one.
I didn't know singed has a stick, I thought he just bitch slapped people. I think best auto is Rammus, he just hits people with his head.
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On October 24 2013 02:19 UniversalSnip wrote: Yah they do it better though, for example, they do it to three dudes in a row, and they come from bot lane where a dude does basically nothing but babysit them to feed him money.
I didn't know singed has a stick, I thought he just bitch slapped people. I think best auto is Rammus, he just hits people with his head. So does Amumu. But everyone forgets about him.
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On October 24 2013 02:19 UniversalSnip wrote: Yah they do it better though, for example, they do it to three dudes in a row, and they come from bot lane where a dude does basically nothing but babysit them to feed him money. You need a lot to make the role of sucking up last hits a desirable one.
I didn't know singed has a stick, I thought he just bitch slapped people. I think best auto is Rammus, he just hits people with his head.
except he can also run into a whole team and kill someone thats why everyone stays the fuck back
im not trying say garens R is exactly as useful as an ADC merely that counting a finishing move as a kda padder is dumb
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Yeah, well, a pure kd padder would literally just credit you someone else's kill, by definition it's more useful than that. That's hyperbole, I'm aware it's by far the strongest part of his skill set late and reasonably useful, but it's just not that much to bring to the table.
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Sounds like a lot of pie-in-the-sky promises that won't nearly work to the extent they think they will. Or maybe I've gotten cynical over the seasons lol.
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On October 24 2013 01:46 UniversalSnip wrote: I think Garen straight up sucks late, black cleaver or not. Only thing he's good for is padding k/d. He has no special positioning tools and does no damage to anyone but squishies which half the time he can't reach.
Although according to wei2coolman I "must be playing him wrong" because my little aoe isn't overlapping with two vulnerable targets the majority of the time, so if you need tips, hit him up. He does drop off late game. But you play him off your opponents stupidity. You bait extremely bad fights from them. My diamond friend recently started doing this extremely frustrating garen build of rushing thornmail against ad tops, and then into GA. Then just force ridiculous amounts of tower dives and snowballs from there. Its pretty fucking silly but hilariously effective.
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For Runes, our core focus will be on creating more dynamic and balanced Rune options while smoothing out the overall experience of customizing your strategies outside of the game.
Read: armor yellows nerfed, possibly rune prices lowered or pages eliminated. Wouldn't expect the last two but we can hope.
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Xypherous and Xelnath (Wizardlock, Right Hand of the 7th Order of Obsidian Blackfire Ebonstone Dark Witchlords) will be coming by to talk about wards, vision and the new Trinket system. Fundamentally we want to shift vision from being less of a raw gold race to more of a strategic part of the game with deeper opportunities for gameplay. We're going to be doing a lot of work here, including a new item slot for specialized vision items, per-player ward limits, and more ward options.
Really.............
Well they went into the !TL strategy of fixing the game as far as supports go.
4 jungle camps will help somewhat I think as far as junglers go, especially if that camp is where I think it will be. Hopefully they make the map a bit bigger to compensate(think like ~+1k/1k[x,y])
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On October 24 2013 02:41 Requizen wrote: Sounds like a lot of pie-in-the-sky promises that won't nearly work to the extent they think they will. Or maybe I've gotten cynical over the seasons lol.
Well even if they don't have the intended impact that Riot wishes, you can at least see what areas they're targeting. Will carry-style jungling catch on with the new items? No one knows, but you do know they're working on it. We'll see.
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They really went the fucking ward slot option. What the absolute fuck.
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On October 24 2013 03:01 TheYango wrote: They really went the fucking ward slot option. What the absolute fuck.
Dead gaem?
In all seriousness though, ward slot option was the worst of the options they had, but it's still better than leaving things as they are.
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On October 24 2013 03:01 TheYango wrote: They really went the fucking ward slot option. What the absolute fuck.
You can't be surprised. All the signs were there for the full retard to happen. Maybe it will be ok ;<
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On October 24 2013 03:01 TheYango wrote: They really went the fucking ward slot option. What the absolute fuck. Works for Smite, they're pretty popularrrroh
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On October 24 2013 03:01 TheYango wrote: They really went the fucking ward slot option. What the absolute fuck. Now supports have open slots for ite- oh what support items?
Was anyone really surprised? Sightstone was a big step towards consolidation of warding. Or that was the intention anyways.
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