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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:16 wei2coolman wrote: Considering her uber range with rockets, you probably won't really get that many runaans proc. Huh? The range on Runaan's multi-attack has absolutely nothing to do with your champion's range. It's based entirely on how close other targets are to your primary target. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 02 2013 04:49 Osmoses wrote: How do you get around the whole "no escapes, inherently squishy" thing? I mean Renekton for example can dive me any time he likes after 6. GP not inherently squishy though. O.o that being said, I do go 1/22/7 masteries for the tanky stuff, mana, and ignite. QEW, R>W>Q>E unless you in herbivore lane (zac, chi, nasus) and then I max Q first for extra two creep of gold per wave. Renekton actually a pretty easy lane, you have way better sustain and Renekton's short term trade better but you crush his face in extended fights and are significantly stronger late game. You actually can just body Renekton before three, but after that it pretty even with you winning all long trades and him winning short. You also win all ins assuming you don't get baited by his ult. That being said, with you show and e increase and W he cannot force you to fight when his ult up. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:21 Seuss wrote: Huh? The range on Runaan's multi-attack has absolutely nothing to do with your champion's range. It's based entirely on how close other targets are to your primary target. Well, assuming you're a competent ADC, who can keep leash range, you're not going to be getting any runaans proc. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
I know I used to leech wolf experience (the big one) as a top laner to get a level advantage when they spawned early. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9110 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:22 wei2coolman wrote: Well, assuming you're a competent ADC, who can keep leash range, you're not going to be getting any runaans proc. I don't understand your reasoning here. What does Runaan have to do with leash range? Whether you hit something from 200 or 2000 range, it acts just the same. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On October 02 2013 04:57 DonKey_ wrote: MS buff and cleanse are pretty escape-y. Pretty sure he has highest base health in game also. He also has built-in passive slows on his Q+AAs. When I've played him, I went for utility/tank builds, with IBG and full CDR (and a Hydra), which provides oodles of disengage and engage potential with the rest of his kit put together, and respectable AoE damage on his Q. Shiv and Crit is especially good on him if you go the damage route. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:22 wei2coolman wrote: Well, assuming you're a competent ADC, who can keep leash range, you're not going to be getting any runaans proc. Runaan's sends its secondary bolts to up to two enemy targets within 375 range of your primary target, your attack range and your positioning has nothing to do with it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:38 thenexusp wrote: Runaan's sends its secondary bolts to up to two enemy targets within 375 range of your primary target, your attack range and your positioning has nothing to do with it. Wait wut? I thought it was based on how far away the 2ndr and tertiary targets were away from you? Did they change that? | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:22 wei2coolman wrote: Well, assuming you're a competent ADC, who can keep leash range, you're not going to be getting any runaans proc. ??? I don't understand this reasoning... Ruunan's procs based on range from your target, not from you. If you have 2000 range, Ruunan's would still proc so far as there are targets within 375 range of your primary. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:41 wei2coolman wrote: Wait wut? I thought it was based on how far away the 2ndr and tertiary targets were away from you? Did they change that? No, it's always worked like that. They buffed the range from 300 to 375 at some point though. I think you have the wrong idea of how it works because Runaan's was announced for a while before it actually hit the PBE (due to them previewing new S3 items and stuff) and that's what people intuitively thought how it should work, but it's not | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:28 Complete wrote: By small ones do you mean wraiths/wolfs, or do you mean the small ones at the wraiths/wolfs? I know I used to leech wolf experience (the big one) as a top laner to get a level advantage when they spawned early. Small wolves/wraiths/golems in each camp. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:42 thenexusp wrote: No, it's always worked like that. They buffed the range from 300 to 375 at some point though. I think you have the wrong idea of how it works because Runaan's was announced for a while before it actually hit the PBE (due to them previewing new S3 items and stuff) and that's what people intuitively thought how it should work, but it's not well, in that case... Visually it should suggest that though imo, hit primary targets with lines being drawn from primary to 2ndry and tertiary target >.> | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On October 02 2013 05:21 iCanada wrote: GP not inherently squishy though. O.o that being said, I do go 1/22/7 masteries for the tanky stuff, mana, and ignite. QEW, R>W>Q>E unless you in herbivore lane (zac, chi, nasus) and then I max Q first for extra two creep of gold per wave. Renekton actually a pretty easy lane, you have way better sustain and Renekton's short term trade better but you crush his face in extended fights and are significantly stronger late game. You actually can just body Renekton before three, but after that it pretty even with you winning all long trades and him winning short. You also win all ins assuming you don't get baited by his ult. That being said, with you show and e increase and W he cannot force you to fight when his ult up. Hell, I go full armor runes/masteries and I still feel like any champ can allin me whenever they like. W cooldown is too long to be able to use it for anything but escape against the likes of renekton, and using it for sustain before first back is too expensive unless you got flask or mana pots -_- the mana costs are too damn high! I can't even use Q for trades because I just go oom. I feel like no matter the matchup, flask first is a must. Its probably just a case of not knowing wtf I'm doing, but I like GP enough to keep working on it, just like I did Riven. Boy did she suck ass when I started playing her... | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
Plus, like, who actually just needs AS anyways? Vayne and Kog? Well the little bolts don't proc Silver Bolts so Vayne is a no-go, and Kog needs things like MS/Self peel because of how vulnerable he is to dives. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 02 2013 06:13 cLutZ wrote: The problem with Runnan's has always been the stats rather than the passive (which is kinda meh because divers don't group enough). No crit means no IE synergy, no LS/AD/Slow means its not as self-sufficient as BORTK, no Movespeed means you cant use it to replace boots, etc. Plus, like, who actually just needs AS anyways? Vayne and Kog? Well the little bolts don't proc Silver Bolts so Vayne is a no-go, and Kog needs things like MS/Self peel because of how vulnerable he is to dives. Teemo can use it fairly well. bwahahaha | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
I would fite you, but even if I won I'd still hate myself for 40 minutes. | ||
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