• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:27
CEST 16:27
KST 23:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy9[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 238Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
BSL Season 23 Bot on ladder screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27! [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague [ASL22] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Diablo IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7641 users

[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 12

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 383 Next
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#221
Is everyone always super tryhard/ragey/trolly around the tops of every league?

In Bronze 4/3 I was consistently getting teams who were working together and being positive, but now that I've hit Bronze 2 and Silver's actually within reach I'm getting nothing but trolls and ragers every game. Like, at least one person complaining about how his teams are preventing him from getting victorious elise while going 1/5 as mid fizz against an orianna or something else he should naturally counter.

Not a QQ, just genuinely curious if this is normal as I've never been this close to not-wood-tier before.
SUNSFANNED
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
October 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#222
Does spectating on the op.gg site not work anymore for anyone else? My client crashes every time I try top open a game for a month or two. Is it just that patches have been out of sync for that long or have something else changed?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 15:54:46
October 01 2013 15:54 GMT
#223
So right now Riven seems to be a freelo train. I've even done well in inhouses, which never happen. And I'm not even good at the champion. Am I wrong or is this character bullshit :|
On October 02 2013 00:53 BrownBear wrote:
Is everyone always super tryhard/ragey/trolly around the tops of every league?

In Bronze 4/3 I was consistently getting teams who were working together and being positive, but now that I've hit Bronze 2 and Silver's actually within reach I'm getting nothing but trolls and ragers every game. Like, at least one person complaining about how his teams are preventing him from getting victorious elise while going 1/5 as mid fizz against an orianna or something else he should naturally counter.

Not a QQ, just genuinely curious if this is normal as I've never been this close to not-wood-tier before.

People get way more intense when promotion is potentially on the line
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 16:01:43
October 01 2013 15:56 GMT
#224
Riven is a snowballer just like Jax, if she doesn't hit paydirt early she will not be terribly relevant mid to late.

edit: I'd also like to say that playing her well takes alot of skill. Anyone can do the basic combo, but knowing the limits of her, the tiny tricks and the exact use of cooldowns like BRNA makes a huge difference.

I've mained her top for quite awhile in high gold/low plat and I feel like most of the time I can at the very least win my lane pretty convincingly (and get those delicious double kills when their jungler ganks right as I hit 6), but I have a hard time in general in teamfights.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 01 2013 15:57 GMT
#225
Riven has always been bullshit. I always focus super hard on basically not letting her kill me in team fights. It's about 50/50 lol
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
October 01 2013 15:57 GMT
#226
How do you guys feel about just sitting on a phage in lane on champs that need the chase/anti-kite but don't play well with triforce?
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
scFoX
Profile Joined September 2011
France454 Posts
October 01 2013 15:59 GMT
#227
On October 02 2013 00:53 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Does spectating on the op.gg site not work anymore for anyone else? My client crashes every time I try top open a game for a month or two. Is it just that patches have been out of sync for that long or have something else changed?


Patches are pretty out of sync for the Korean server. I'm not sure when we'll be updated with the 3.12 patch. probably not in two months though, but usually we are patched at least two weeks after a new champion becomes playable.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 01 2013 16:03 GMT
#228
On October 02 2013 00:53 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Does spectating on the op.gg site not work anymore for anyone else? My client crashes every time I try top open a game for a month or two. Is it just that patches have been out of sync for that long or have something else changed?

shouldn't have patched lel
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 01 2013 16:07 GMT
#229
On October 02 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Seeing as the Teemo champ thread is wildly out of date and I am in fact the Pope of the Church of Teemo, I think I'll be working on a new OP if there are no objections.

I hate you.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 01 2013 16:08 GMT
#230
On October 01 2013 23:30 sung_moon wrote:
So pretty much I'm still building Olaf as the same?

Emphasis on tanky+ CDR with 1 damage item (BC/Ghostglade/TF)? These numbers on Olaf's AS looks interesting, although I'd feel too squishy building 2 damage items unless I was ridiculously ahead.

Edit: Oh splitpush all day Olaf with Hydra sounds great.


Tanky/CDR Olaf got nerfed. You need an additional 108 AD at level 18 to do the same damage with rank 5 E as you did before, you take more damage than before (both due to increased cost and loss of Spell Vamp), and you need to auto-attack twice each time for the cooldown to be equivalent. You get 80 AD while ulting, but that's for a mere 6 seconds. Axes also have a minimum range of 400 now, so you can't just sit on top of someone mashing Q and E anymore.

I'm not sure what to make of the new Olaf yet, but his new incarnation seems strictly inferior as a jungler unless you can pull off a Meteos style and go Hydra.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
October 01 2013 16:10 GMT
#231
On October 02 2013 00:53 BrownBear wrote:
Is everyone always super tryhard/ragey/trolly around the tops of every league?

In Bronze 4/3 I was consistently getting teams who were working together and being positive, but now that I've hit Bronze 2 and Silver's actually within reach I'm getting nothing but trolls and ragers every game. Like, at least one person complaining about how his teams are preventing him from getting victorious elise while going 1/5 as mid fizz against an orianna or something else he should naturally counter.

Not a QQ, just genuinely curious if this is normal as I've never been this close to not-wood-tier before.

Never seen anyone contradict themselves in the space of 3 words before ...
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 01 2013 16:10 GMT
#232
On October 02 2013 01:07 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Seeing as the Teemo champ thread is wildly out of date and I am in fact the Pope of the Church of Teemo, I think I'll be working on a new OP if there are no objections.

I hate you.

But I love youuu
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 01 2013 16:12 GMT
#233
Lol chat died on euw.This reminds me of the time before the west/east split.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 16:15:20
October 01 2013 16:14 GMT
#234
On October 02 2013 01:08 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:30 sung_moon wrote:
So pretty much I'm still building Olaf as the same?

Emphasis on tanky+ CDR with 1 damage item (BC/Ghostglade/TF)? These numbers on Olaf's AS looks interesting, although I'd feel too squishy building 2 damage items unless I was ridiculously ahead.

Edit: Oh splitpush all day Olaf with Hydra sounds great.


Tanky/CDR Olaf got nerfed. You need an additional 108 AD at level 18 to do the same damage with rank 5 E as you did before, you take more damage than before (both due to increased cost and loss of Spell Vamp), and you need to auto-attack twice each time for the cooldown to be equivalent. You get 80 AD while ulting, but that's for a mere 6 seconds. Axes also have a minimum range of 400 now, so you can't just sit on top of someone mashing Q and E anymore.

I'm not sure what to make of the new Olaf yet, but his new incarnation seems strictly inferior as a jungler unless you can pull off a Meteos style and go Hydra.

He's pretty much required to have at least 1 offensive item now.
I think ghostblade probably be pretty good on him, so he can stick harder, and especially considering how autoattack based he is now. Or triforce, cuz triforce is broken.
On October 02 2013 01:10 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 01:07 Gahlo wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Seeing as the Teemo champ thread is wildly out of date and I am in fact the Pope of the Church of Teemo, I think I'll be working on a new OP if there are no objections.

I hate you.

But I love youuu

But, then you'd actually have to show a match history full of teemo wins....
liftlift > tsm
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
October 01 2013 16:29 GMT
#235
Dear Riot,

Y U CHANGE MY FRIEND LIST SO GENERAL ALWAYS AT THE TOP!??!

Regards,
upperbound
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 16:37:57
October 01 2013 16:37 GMT
#236
I hate that change so much as well - there's a reason my IRL list is called aIRL........

On October 02 2013 00:00 EquilasH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 19:48 Osmoses wrote:
On October 01 2013 19:40 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Please do make GP and Renekton really popular. I would love to play top lane Poppy and win easy games.
(Poppy is really strong against pure physical melee champions - especially GP)

I'd actually really enjoy seeing the Renekton vs Poppy matchup, if both participants were diamond. Any takers?


I volunteer for either role - Diamond 1 and played both champions extensively.


No one wants to take me up on this offer?
wat
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 01 2013 16:37 GMT
#237
On October 02 2013 01:29 upperbound wrote:
Dear Riot,

Y U CHANGE MY FRIEND LIST SO GENERAL ALWAYS AT THE TOP!??!

Regards,
upperbound


your alphabet has no power here

but yes, this bugs me as well
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
October 01 2013 16:38 GMT
#238
I think I'll have to start removing a lot of people from my general friend list now to get rid of the clutter.
wat
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 01 2013 16:43 GMT
#239
botrk king seems like the obvious choice on olaf for a single offensive item. Helps prevent kite, has synergy with his very high attack speed and healing bonus.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
October 01 2013 16:46 GMT
#240
On October 02 2013 01:10 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 01:07 Gahlo wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Seeing as the Teemo champ thread is wildly out of date and I am in fact the Pope of the Church of Teemo, I think I'll be working on a new OP if there are no objections.

I hate you.

But I love youuu

Catbug?
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 383 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
WardiTV 10, Group B
WardiTV800
ComeBackTV 354
Rex122
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 122
BRAT_OK 46
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 44330
Mini 1025
Light 658
GuemChi 644
Shuttle 569
Stork 310
Last 252
ggaemo 213
firebathero 107
HiyA 83
[ Show more ]
Barracks 77
sorry 39
soO 38
ToSsGirL 25
NaDa 21
NotJumperer 15
Dewaltoss 13
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Gorgc6154
qojqva1555
BananaSlamJamma179
Counter-Strike
markeloff307
x6flipin45
Other Games
B2W.Neo784
hiko632
Lowko350
crisheroes315
Hui .212
XBOCT209
Liquid`VortiX163
Mew2King70
QueenE55
Codebar4
ArmadaUGS3
Liquid`RaSZi0
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream12603
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 333
lovetv 11
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile122
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1227
League of Legends
• Nemesis2430
• Jankos2209
• TFBlade813
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 33m
WardiTV Invitational
20h 33m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 13h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 19h
GSL
2 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.