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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#221
Is everyone always super tryhard/ragey/trolly around the tops of every league?

In Bronze 4/3 I was consistently getting teams who were working together and being positive, but now that I've hit Bronze 2 and Silver's actually within reach I'm getting nothing but trolls and ragers every game. Like, at least one person complaining about how his teams are preventing him from getting victorious elise while going 1/5 as mid fizz against an orianna or something else he should naturally counter.

Not a QQ, just genuinely curious if this is normal as I've never been this close to not-wood-tier before.
SUNSFANNED
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
October 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#222
Does spectating on the op.gg site not work anymore for anyone else? My client crashes every time I try top open a game for a month or two. Is it just that patches have been out of sync for that long or have something else changed?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 15:54:46
October 01 2013 15:54 GMT
#223
So right now Riven seems to be a freelo train. I've even done well in inhouses, which never happen. And I'm not even good at the champion. Am I wrong or is this character bullshit :|
On October 02 2013 00:53 BrownBear wrote:
Is everyone always super tryhard/ragey/trolly around the tops of every league?

In Bronze 4/3 I was consistently getting teams who were working together and being positive, but now that I've hit Bronze 2 and Silver's actually within reach I'm getting nothing but trolls and ragers every game. Like, at least one person complaining about how his teams are preventing him from getting victorious elise while going 1/5 as mid fizz against an orianna or something else he should naturally counter.

Not a QQ, just genuinely curious if this is normal as I've never been this close to not-wood-tier before.

People get way more intense when promotion is potentially on the line
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 16:01:43
October 01 2013 15:56 GMT
#224
Riven is a snowballer just like Jax, if she doesn't hit paydirt early she will not be terribly relevant mid to late.

edit: I'd also like to say that playing her well takes alot of skill. Anyone can do the basic combo, but knowing the limits of her, the tiny tricks and the exact use of cooldowns like BRNA makes a huge difference.

I've mained her top for quite awhile in high gold/low plat and I feel like most of the time I can at the very least win my lane pretty convincingly (and get those delicious double kills when their jungler ganks right as I hit 6), but I have a hard time in general in teamfights.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 01 2013 15:57 GMT
#225
Riven has always been bullshit. I always focus super hard on basically not letting her kill me in team fights. It's about 50/50 lol
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
October 01 2013 15:57 GMT
#226
How do you guys feel about just sitting on a phage in lane on champs that need the chase/anti-kite but don't play well with triforce?
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
scFoX
Profile Joined September 2011
France454 Posts
October 01 2013 15:59 GMT
#227
On October 02 2013 00:53 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Does spectating on the op.gg site not work anymore for anyone else? My client crashes every time I try top open a game for a month or two. Is it just that patches have been out of sync for that long or have something else changed?


Patches are pretty out of sync for the Korean server. I'm not sure when we'll be updated with the 3.12 patch. probably not in two months though, but usually we are patched at least two weeks after a new champion becomes playable.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 01 2013 16:03 GMT
#228
On October 02 2013 00:53 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Does spectating on the op.gg site not work anymore for anyone else? My client crashes every time I try top open a game for a month or two. Is it just that patches have been out of sync for that long or have something else changed?

shouldn't have patched lel
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 01 2013 16:07 GMT
#229
On October 02 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Seeing as the Teemo champ thread is wildly out of date and I am in fact the Pope of the Church of Teemo, I think I'll be working on a new OP if there are no objections.

I hate you.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 01 2013 16:08 GMT
#230
On October 01 2013 23:30 sung_moon wrote:
So pretty much I'm still building Olaf as the same?

Emphasis on tanky+ CDR with 1 damage item (BC/Ghostglade/TF)? These numbers on Olaf's AS looks interesting, although I'd feel too squishy building 2 damage items unless I was ridiculously ahead.

Edit: Oh splitpush all day Olaf with Hydra sounds great.


Tanky/CDR Olaf got nerfed. You need an additional 108 AD at level 18 to do the same damage with rank 5 E as you did before, you take more damage than before (both due to increased cost and loss of Spell Vamp), and you need to auto-attack twice each time for the cooldown to be equivalent. You get 80 AD while ulting, but that's for a mere 6 seconds. Axes also have a minimum range of 400 now, so you can't just sit on top of someone mashing Q and E anymore.

I'm not sure what to make of the new Olaf yet, but his new incarnation seems strictly inferior as a jungler unless you can pull off a Meteos style and go Hydra.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
October 01 2013 16:10 GMT
#231
On October 02 2013 00:53 BrownBear wrote:
Is everyone always super tryhard/ragey/trolly around the tops of every league?

In Bronze 4/3 I was consistently getting teams who were working together and being positive, but now that I've hit Bronze 2 and Silver's actually within reach I'm getting nothing but trolls and ragers every game. Like, at least one person complaining about how his teams are preventing him from getting victorious elise while going 1/5 as mid fizz against an orianna or something else he should naturally counter.

Not a QQ, just genuinely curious if this is normal as I've never been this close to not-wood-tier before.

Never seen anyone contradict themselves in the space of 3 words before ...
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 01 2013 16:10 GMT
#232
On October 02 2013 01:07 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Seeing as the Teemo champ thread is wildly out of date and I am in fact the Pope of the Church of Teemo, I think I'll be working on a new OP if there are no objections.

I hate you.

But I love youuu
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 01 2013 16:12 GMT
#233
Lol chat died on euw.This reminds me of the time before the west/east split.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 16:15:20
October 01 2013 16:14 GMT
#234
On October 02 2013 01:08 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:30 sung_moon wrote:
So pretty much I'm still building Olaf as the same?

Emphasis on tanky+ CDR with 1 damage item (BC/Ghostglade/TF)? These numbers on Olaf's AS looks interesting, although I'd feel too squishy building 2 damage items unless I was ridiculously ahead.

Edit: Oh splitpush all day Olaf with Hydra sounds great.


Tanky/CDR Olaf got nerfed. You need an additional 108 AD at level 18 to do the same damage with rank 5 E as you did before, you take more damage than before (both due to increased cost and loss of Spell Vamp), and you need to auto-attack twice each time for the cooldown to be equivalent. You get 80 AD while ulting, but that's for a mere 6 seconds. Axes also have a minimum range of 400 now, so you can't just sit on top of someone mashing Q and E anymore.

I'm not sure what to make of the new Olaf yet, but his new incarnation seems strictly inferior as a jungler unless you can pull off a Meteos style and go Hydra.

He's pretty much required to have at least 1 offensive item now.
I think ghostblade probably be pretty good on him, so he can stick harder, and especially considering how autoattack based he is now. Or triforce, cuz triforce is broken.
On October 02 2013 01:10 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 01:07 Gahlo wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Seeing as the Teemo champ thread is wildly out of date and I am in fact the Pope of the Church of Teemo, I think I'll be working on a new OP if there are no objections.

I hate you.

But I love youuu

But, then you'd actually have to show a match history full of teemo wins....
liftlift > tsm
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
October 01 2013 16:29 GMT
#235
Dear Riot,

Y U CHANGE MY FRIEND LIST SO GENERAL ALWAYS AT THE TOP!??!

Regards,
upperbound
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 16:37:57
October 01 2013 16:37 GMT
#236
I hate that change so much as well - there's a reason my IRL list is called aIRL........

On October 02 2013 00:00 EquilasH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 19:48 Osmoses wrote:
On October 01 2013 19:40 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Please do make GP and Renekton really popular. I would love to play top lane Poppy and win easy games.
(Poppy is really strong against pure physical melee champions - especially GP)

I'd actually really enjoy seeing the Renekton vs Poppy matchup, if both participants were diamond. Any takers?


I volunteer for either role - Diamond 1 and played both champions extensively.


No one wants to take me up on this offer?
wat
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 01 2013 16:37 GMT
#237
On October 02 2013 01:29 upperbound wrote:
Dear Riot,

Y U CHANGE MY FRIEND LIST SO GENERAL ALWAYS AT THE TOP!??!

Regards,
upperbound


your alphabet has no power here

but yes, this bugs me as well
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
October 01 2013 16:38 GMT
#238
I think I'll have to start removing a lot of people from my general friend list now to get rid of the clutter.
wat
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 01 2013 16:43 GMT
#239
botrk king seems like the obvious choice on olaf for a single offensive item. Helps prevent kite, has synergy with his very high attack speed and healing bonus.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 01 2013 16:46 GMT
#240
On October 02 2013 01:10 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 01:07 Gahlo wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote:
Seeing as the Teemo champ thread is wildly out of date and I am in fact the Pope of the Church of Teemo, I think I'll be working on a new OP if there are no objections.

I hate you.

But I love youuu

Catbug?
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