EPTReginald should just focus on managing TSM and pick up another mid player. Being able to juggle both responsibilities is impressive but it's a damn handicap. Too bad the rumors are that he has contractual obligations with sponsors to stay on the team.
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
Reginald should just focus on managing TSM and pick up another mid player. Being able to juggle both responsibilities is impressive but it's a damn handicap. Too bad the rumors are that he has contractual obligations with sponsors to stay on the team. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:03 silencefc wrote: This has been exhausting to read. Reginald should just focus on managing TSM and pick up another mid player. Being able to juggle both responsibilities is impressive but it's a damn handicap. Too bad the rumors are that he has contractual obligations with sponsors to stay on the team. ive said it and yango said it and a few other people have said it - its ridiculous to think a new mid could replace reginald mid when regi is their main shot caller. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: ive said it and yango said it and a few other people have said it - its ridiculous to think a new mid could replace reginald mid when regi is their main shot caller. Yea the team is so lost without him. That's why they look so bad if he's off his game, they lack any independent thought. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:04 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: ive said it and yango said it and a few other people have said it - its ridiculous to think a new mid could replace reginald mid when regi is their main shot caller. I think most modern teams have learned to start splitting up the calls now though. Too much going on the map nowadays to not know what you're doing at all and be a successful team and TSM has the experience. In terms of just mid lane though I don't know anyone in NA good enough. Hell, Reginald even outlanes Link quite often. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
I'm just going to either respond generically to conversations or try to incite arguments with random people. Harrumph! | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
I don't think being a shot caller should secure you a spot on the team. Especially when two of your players contest your calls during games. Of course, this close to Worlds any roster change is a detriment. But after, with no Winter LCS, is a perfect time to make huge adjustments. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:06 Itsmedudeman wrote: I think most modern teams have learned to start splitting up the calls now though. Too much going on the map nowadays to not know what you're doing at all and be a successful team and TSM has the experience. In terms of just mid lane though I don't know anyone in NA good enough. Hell, Reginald even outlanes Link quite often. regardless of the strengths/weaknesses of splitting up calls (i dont even know the extent that different teams do it), that is hardly a reason to replace reginald - in fact i'd argue it's the opposite. when you have multiple calls and lots of things going on at the same time, experience and comfort with a teammate becomes a lot more important and there are few teams who have played together as long as and know each other as well as tsm On September 12 2013 06:08 silencefc wrote: Blaze replaced their shot caller and came out better for it. I don't think being a shot caller should secure you a spot on the team. Especially when two of your players contest your calls during games. of course not, but it's certainly a plus, not to mention that reginald, despite what people may think, IS NOT ACTUALLY A BAD MID | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:03 Itsmedudeman wrote: Somewhere not getting stomped by international teams More like barely staying in LCS in a scene that everyone makes fun of. As much as people like to like CLG, I just want to point out the following: Their LCS performance was terrible. There's no other way to say this. Coast 1-3, Curse 1-3, and Cloud9 1-3. Seriously. They can beat neither the top or bottom teams consistently. The rest are all 2-2s. Their records suck, and their gameplay isn't any better. CLG suffers from it's own hype. They have been barely staying alive for the last two LCS Seasons. It's time to let the CLG hype die, and just root on individual players that you enjoy on the team. Hope they find a better team or create one of their own. Jiji was so close to doing exactly that. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:01 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: tsm is at all three seasons of worlds where's clg? Cheep pls My troll was intended for Ruffles | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:13 ketchup wrote: More like barely staying in LCS in a scene that everyone makes fun of. As much as people like to like CLG, I just want to point out the following: Their LCS performance was terrible. There's no other way to say this. Coast 1-3, Curse 1-3, and Cloud9 1-3. Seriously. They can beat neither the top or bottom teams consistently. The rest are all 2-2s. Their records suck, and their gameplay isn't any better. CLG suffers from it's own hype. They have been barely staying alive for the last two LCS Seasons. It's time to let the CLG hype die, and just root on individual players that you enjoy on the team. Hope they find a better team or create one of their own. Jiji was so close to doing exactly that. but... potential... | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On September 12 2013 05:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: ldsif uasdljfsdl fjas lskdjflj lkj lkj lskdjfoisdufioudjfiodfk ?????????????????????????????? red_ PLEASE PLS http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/205_HiyA Once upon a time I was informed by members of an LR thread that BW'ers referred to MVP as 'magikarp.' My whole life has been a lie. | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: regardless of the strengths/weaknesses of splitting up calls (i dont even know the extent that different teams do it), that is hardly a reason to replace reginald - in fact i'd argue it's the opposite. when you have multiple calls and lots of things going on at the same time, experience and comfort with a teammate becomes a lot more important and there are few teams who have played together as long as and know each other as well as tsm of course not, but it's certainly a plus, not to mention that reginald, despite what people may think, IS NOT ACTUALLY A BAD MID When he performs well, he performs well. I would not be making the statements I make if Reginald could dedicate himself entirely to his performance, but he has obligations that prevent that. I think his performance fluctuates high and low far greater than any other player in the LCS. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On September 12 2013 05:18 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: that, my friend, is dumpstered for sure eu mids overrated + Show Spoiler + are you happy neo i was originally gonna just quote him and post "dumpstered" EU mids aren't overrated as much as NA adc though  | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:14 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I remember halfway through the season Xpecial started "easing the call burden" for Reginald, and eventually it just didn't work out. Reginald is really the only person on that team who can can call shots. Dyrus and Oddone are too out of it, and Xpecial is too sensitive (imo), and Wildturtle just does REALLY stupid things sometimes (he's like a Doublelift in that way). I think most people here on TL acknowledge what Regi does, it's just the legions of Reddit that really discredit him. and In that way respect Regi even more, because he hasn't allowed these massive waves of hate to affect how he leads his team. Wildturtle's mistakes are more like Zuna's. His solo queue mentality takes over, and after that his positioning is shot. I place him A LOT better than Zuna, but his positioning mistakes are very similar to the throw master in vulcun. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:15 Lylat wrote: EU mids aren't overrated as much as NA adc though I think we've stopped overrating Doublelift by now, although I still would pick him as the best adc to have on my team from NA in an international event | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:18 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I think we've stopped overrating Doublelift by now, although I still would pick him as the best adc to have on my team from NA in an international event I think Sneaky has proven to be the type of AD that will work in the current season, and so should be regarded as NA's #1. I'm amazed his name doesn't come up more often when talking about NA ADs. I can't recall a time where sneaky was out of position while I can recall multiple times where doublelift, zuna, and wildturtle were. It's very easy to remember since it's always some stupidity. Doublelift's really good 1v2/ 1v3, but when he has his teammates around him, he forgets everything. It's a really interesting pattern. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:21 ketchup wrote: I think Sneaky has proven to be the type of AD that will work in the current season, and so should be regarded as NA's #1. I'm amazed his name doesn't come up more often when talking about NA ADs. I can't recall a time where sneaky was out of position while I can recall multiple times where doublelift, zuna, and wildturtle were. It's very easy to remember since it's always some stupidity. Doublelift's really good 1v2/ 1v3, but when he has his teammates around him, he forgets everything. It's a really interesting pattern. I really value the massive amount of international experience that Doublelift is towing. I will give Cloud9 credit that they seem like a really composed team, and I wonder how much pressure will actually affect them, but until I see Sneaky once in a high-stakes situation internationally, I will totally take liftlift. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On September 12 2013 06:21 ketchup wrote: I think Sneaky has proven to be the type of AD that will work in the current season, and so should be regarded as NA's #1. I'm amazed his name doesn't come up more often when talking about NA ADs. I can't recall a time where sneaky was out of position while I can recall multiple times where doublelift, zuna, and wildturtle were. It's very easy to remember since it's always some stupidity. Doublelift's really good 1v2/ 1v3, but when he has his teammates around him, he forgets everything. It's a really interesting pattern. i think the complete opposite regardless of what sneaky is capable of, what he has shown is that he plays in a strat where his team doesnt focus farm onto him at all and he only becomes relevant because his team is always winning and therefore he's rolling in the objective gold in a game where c9 doesnt roll (ie, vs any asian team) he will become an underfed, useless adc c9's mentality of "sneaky does more with less" doesn't apply when they're losing cause in Na, sneaky's "less" is actually "more" cause c9 is always winning, and therefore c9 will get dumpstered when sneaky is actually working with "less" | ||
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