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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On September 12 2013 02:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: tryn mid is also really op
man fuck this game i blow Fixed for you.
Adapt or die Cheep. Up to you. Meta changes constantly. If you can't keep up, you're just another one of those shitters.
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On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm.
If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear.
If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions.
Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up.
I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though.
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On September 12 2013 02:26 silencefc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear. If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions. Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up. I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though.
Annie would have to be REALLY careless...
Fiora runs pretty much no defenses. Annie can poke that all day and really make Fiora's life rough. It's the same as any melee champ...
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On September 12 2013 02:26 silencefc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear. If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions. Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up. I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though. Dont hit her.
If she never wastes stun you freefarm. If she harrasses you you can harrass afterwards. If she stays away you win in farm.
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On September 12 2013 02:24 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: tryn mid is also really op
man fuck this game i blow Fixed for you. Adapt or die Cheep. Up to you. Meta changes constantly. If you can't keep up, you're just another one of those shitters. Buy new champions to keep up*
At least as someone who played LoL for way too long, thats what it seems like
Cause the meta in Lol is still the same as it was 2 years ago.
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On September 12 2013 02:30 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:26 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear. If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions. Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up. I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though. Dont hit her.
I meant you are right. If Annie only stuns Fiora when Fiora is aggressive, Fiora gets free farm. Annie's auto attack won't do anything to Fiora.
If Annie is aggressively stunning Fiora every time Fiora comes near creeps, Fiora is sad.
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Baa?21243 Posts
On September 12 2013 02:24 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: tryn mid is also really op
man fuck this game i blow Fixed for you. Adapt or die Cheep. Up to you. Meta changes constantly. If you can't keep up, you're just another one of those shitters.
pls i play lots of kinky shit mid
doesnt mean mid doesnt blow
then again right now is much better than kha/jayce so theres that at least
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On September 12 2013 02:35 silencefc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:30 Shikyo wrote:On September 12 2013 02:26 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear. If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions. Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up. I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though. Dont hit her. I meant you are right. If Annie only stuns Fiora when Fiora is aggressive, Fiora gets free farm. Annie's auto attack won't do anything to Fiora. If Annie is aggressively stunning Fiora every time Fiora comes near creeps, Fiora is sad.
Annie aa won't do anything to Fiora because...your 1 riposte every 10 sec?
And if Annie has ANY idea what she's doing, she most certainly will be stunning and harassing if you get remotely close...
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guys what's the fastest way to reach level 30 from 1?
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On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. She farms until 6 and then kills you.
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On September 12 2013 02:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:35 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:30 Shikyo wrote:On September 12 2013 02:26 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear. If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions. Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up. I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though. Dont hit her. I meant you are right. If Annie only stuns Fiora when Fiora is aggressive, Fiora gets free farm. Annie's auto attack won't do anything to Fiora. If Annie is aggressively stunning Fiora every time Fiora comes near creeps, Fiora is sad. Annie aa won't do anything to Fiora because...your 1 riposte every 10 sec? And if Annie has ANY idea what she's doing, she most certainly will be stunning and harassing if you get remotely close... AAs just dont do anything ;S Maybe your Annie builds apen and starts Doran Blade but they generally do go AP
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United States23745 Posts
I can see hybrid runes being used on her to take advantage of her AA range.
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On September 12 2013 02:45 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 12 2013 02:35 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:30 Shikyo wrote:On September 12 2013 02:26 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear. If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions. Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up. I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though. Dont hit her. I meant you are right. If Annie only stuns Fiora when Fiora is aggressive, Fiora gets free farm. Annie's auto attack won't do anything to Fiora. If Annie is aggressively stunning Fiora every time Fiora comes near creeps, Fiora is sad. Annie aa won't do anything to Fiora because...your 1 riposte every 10 sec? And if Annie has ANY idea what she's doing, she most certainly will be stunning and harassing if you get remotely close... AAs just dont do anything ;S Maybe your Annie builds apen and starts Doran Blade but they generally do go AP
Uh, no, I run my standard AP build/masteries/runes.
One AA won't do much, sure. But several starts to add up, especially early game. You won't be able to sit there and take the punishment for very long, especially with Q and W harass coming in.
edit: I do want to try this matchup though. I haven't ever played it before. I just can't see a way that Fiora does much of anything.
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On September 12 2013 02:45 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 12 2013 02:35 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:30 Shikyo wrote:On September 12 2013 02:26 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear. If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions. Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up. I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though. Dont hit her. I meant you are right. If Annie only stuns Fiora when Fiora is aggressive, Fiora gets free farm. Annie's auto attack won't do anything to Fiora. If Annie is aggressively stunning Fiora every time Fiora comes near creeps, Fiora is sad. Annie aa won't do anything to Fiora because...your 1 riposte every 10 sec? And if Annie has ANY idea what she's doing, she most certainly will be stunning and harassing if you get remotely close... AAs just dont do anything ;S Maybe your Annie builds apen and starts Doran Blade but they generally do go AP
Holy ****. This is getting to armor per level is greater than armor seals level very quickly.
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On September 12 2013 02:48 Lounge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 02:45 Shikyo wrote:On September 12 2013 02:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 12 2013 02:35 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:30 Shikyo wrote:On September 12 2013 02:26 silencefc wrote:On September 12 2013 02:23 Shikyo wrote: If Annie sits on stun you take no damage and freefarm. If she sits on it until you hit her, yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear. If she sits in the middle of the creep wave and last hits with only auto's, it can be hard for Fiora to farm because she'll get stunned when she gets close to the minions. Then Annie walks away until her stun is back up. I can see Fiora getting a kill by level 3 if Annie is careless though. Dont hit her. I meant you are right. If Annie only stuns Fiora when Fiora is aggressive, Fiora gets free farm. Annie's auto attack won't do anything to Fiora. If Annie is aggressively stunning Fiora every time Fiora comes near creeps, Fiora is sad. Annie aa won't do anything to Fiora because...your 1 riposte every 10 sec? And if Annie has ANY idea what she's doing, she most certainly will be stunning and harassing if you get remotely close... AAs just dont do anything ;S Maybe your Annie builds apen and starts Doran Blade but they generally do go AP Holy ****. This is getting to armor per level is greater than armor seals level very quickly. How? All my pages have armor seals.
Anyway, Fiora has this passive that gives her tons of regen. Annie has such puny harrass that she really doesn't care. her animation also sucks and is very easy to riposte. In addition, she can just Q her.
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Don't forget Riposte does damage back. Its base damage actually scales equally with Fiora's doubleQ but does magic damage.
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I really don't think Fiora can bully Jax at any point. How does she ever win trades?
Corvette and I just played this matchup last night. I don't see what she can do against Jax with DShield start.
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IMO annie wins.
Don't take a skill at level 1 until you figure out what fiora got. Play aggressively and auto, and force her out of the creep wave. If she goes on you with Q, skill E and use it, if she ripostes, level Q and continue whaling on her. Fiora should basically never see a CS for the first couple of waves.
See Faker vs Roar(ori vs Zed) for the general idea of how to play the matchup.
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On September 12 2013 02:57 Amui wrote: IMO annie wins.
Don't take a skill at level 1 until you figure out what fiora got. Play aggressively and auto, and force her out of the creep wave. If she goes on you with Q, skill E and use it, if she ripostes, level Q and continue whaling on her. Fiora should basically never see a CS for the first couple of waves.
See Faker vs Roar(ori vs Zed) for the general idea of how to play the matchup.
Instead - you can get lvl 1 W and get stun in fountain (which is what I do every game).
If she jumps on you, you stun her and she eats creeps + your autos.
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The obviously conclusion to draw from this discussion is that Malzahar needs buffs.
:3
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