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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 20 2013 05:56 GMT
#6101
On August 20 2013 14:55 Complete wrote:
does twitch's E remove the passive stacks? As in his passive no longer does the DoT?

nope.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 20 2013 06:25 GMT
#6102
An interesting consequence of that is that at 25%+ CDR, Twitch can Expunge twice from the same set of Deadly Venom stacks. Not hugely practical though, since it's not particularly hard to re-apply Venom.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
August 20 2013 06:29 GMT
#6103
On August 20 2013 15:25 TheYango wrote:
An interesting consequence of that is that at 25%+ CDR, Twitch can Expunge twice from the same set of Deadly Venom stacks. Not hugely practical though, since it's not particularly hard to re-apply Venom.

Lol... Like i dont know what to say, but you know this... and i like it.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 06:30:40
August 20 2013 06:30 GMT
#6104
Also :D Im a DT now. Now i can go cheese some zerg noob MWAHAHAHHAHHAHAH
edit:Oh and im a bw dt obv. just incase of confusion.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 20 2013 06:32 GMT
#6105
On August 20 2013 14:07 Gahlo wrote:
Watching videos of Husky playing league while commentating, all while having no idea what he's doing is incredible.

Maybe I'll do this with DotA.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
August 20 2013 06:36 GMT
#6106
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls
Hey! Listen!
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
August 20 2013 07:07 GMT
#6107
On August 20 2013 14:48 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 13:39 asymptotech wrote:
On August 20 2013 13:17 Navi wrote:
On August 20 2013 11:58 Parametric wrote:
On August 20 2013 11:49 Gahlo wrote:
On August 20 2013 11:39 Parametric wrote:
Quick question, when leveling an account would i get more XP for playing normals over intermediate bots?

From Wiki:
Current (July 2011) formula for XP winning a Normal game at level 15-19 is roughly 3m+25, where m is the number of minutes the game lasts, capped at 198. Intermediate Bot games at level 10-14 use the same formula. At level 15-19, Intermediate Bot games subtract a 25% penalty from that formula, and give XP for only the first 180 minutes a day of play.


Ty.

Leveling a smurf is going to take a longggggggggg time


yo,
i learned this with a friend when my account was level 29 (damnit). but if you can queue with a few friends or randoms in 3v3 vs bots intermediate and end the game in like i forget how many minutes (4? 5? is the minimum before you get the full reward in IP and exp) you get about the same as a fast finished normal game or bots game. as you might imagine, really fast for just grinding out exp.


You don't even need other people if you're willing to spend a few dollars on xp boosts. (Not that friends won't help this go even better.) Really easy formula for it:
1) buy master yi (any champ will do, but I can't imagine anyone being as good) and both types of xp boosts (they stack)
2) twisted treeline custom against sona bot (any bot will do, but this one is the best from personal experience)
3) start with teleport/smite and flask + pots (at low levels you can be safe and 5hp/4mp, but the time you're to 20 you don't even need a single potion)

Go bot. Proxy first wave with smite. Deal some tower damage, kite/proxy second wave (kiting is easier, especially at lower level). Kill tower. Here's the important part: only kill the cannon (smite) and casters in the next wave. Let your own wave bunch up on the melees. This will give you much more than one wave for the next one + tower. Kill the tower, back and buy a dorans blade or two (less pots = easier 2x blades). teleport back for inhib and nexus.

Without any masteries or runes this can be done in less than 5:30. By the time I was level 10 (tower damage mastery and a few damage runes), I had often had to wait to dps the nexus to ensure 5:00 had passed. There's lots of video's with this basic idea floating around if you youtube. I just found the 3 wave clump and teleport instead of heal guaranteed 5 minute games worth a very good chunk of xp.

But be aware: once your xp boosts run and/or your custom game timer for that day run out this isn't worth it at all. Especially with how linear/un-fun it is.


Tried it on a level 7 account, killed nexus after 5:15, got 34 xp without any boost (34*2*2=136 xp with double boosts). 40000 xp from 1 to 30, 40000/136 = about 300 games. 300 * 5 minutes = 1500 minutes = 25 hours.

So since you can get xp for 3 hours every day, it would take 8-9 days from level 1 to 30, if you do it perfectly.



Just bought those boosts, and I didn't get the expected 136~ xp, but 235~ instead. So for some reason I'm getting 7 times the xp with double xp boosts, I thought they both were 2x xp?
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 07:08:58
August 20 2013 07:07 GMT
#6108
On August 20 2013 16:07 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 14:48 zodde wrote:
On August 20 2013 13:39 asymptotech wrote:
On August 20 2013 13:17 Navi wrote:
On August 20 2013 11:58 Parametric wrote:
On August 20 2013 11:49 Gahlo wrote:
On August 20 2013 11:39 Parametric wrote:
Quick question, when leveling an account would i get more XP for playing normals over intermediate bots?

From Wiki:
Current (July 2011) formula for XP winning a Normal game at level 15-19 is roughly 3m+25, where m is the number of minutes the game lasts, capped at 198. Intermediate Bot games at level 10-14 use the same formula. At level 15-19, Intermediate Bot games subtract a 25% penalty from that formula, and give XP for only the first 180 minutes a day of play.


Ty.

Leveling a smurf is going to take a longggggggggg time


yo,
i learned this with a friend when my account was level 29 (damnit). but if you can queue with a few friends or randoms in 3v3 vs bots intermediate and end the game in like i forget how many minutes (4? 5? is the minimum before you get the full reward in IP and exp) you get about the same as a fast finished normal game or bots game. as you might imagine, really fast for just grinding out exp.


You don't even need other people if you're willing to spend a few dollars on xp boosts. (Not that friends won't help this go even better.) Really easy formula for it:
1) buy master yi (any champ will do, but I can't imagine anyone being as good) and both types of xp boosts (they stack)
2) twisted treeline custom against sona bot (any bot will do, but this one is the best from personal experience)
3) start with teleport/smite and flask + pots (at low levels you can be safe and 5hp/4mp, but the time you're to 20 you don't even need a single potion)

Go bot. Proxy first wave with smite. Deal some tower damage, kite/proxy second wave (kiting is easier, especially at lower level). Kill tower. Here's the important part: only kill the cannon (smite) and casters in the next wave. Let your own wave bunch up on the melees. This will give you much more than one wave for the next one + tower. Kill the tower, back and buy a dorans blade or two (less pots = easier 2x blades). teleport back for inhib and nexus.

Without any masteries or runes this can be done in less than 5:30. By the time I was level 10 (tower damage mastery and a few damage runes), I had often had to wait to dps the nexus to ensure 5:00 had passed. There's lots of video's with this basic idea floating around if you youtube. I just found the 3 wave clump and teleport instead of heal guaranteed 5 minute games worth a very good chunk of xp.

But be aware: once your xp boosts run and/or your custom game timer for that day run out this isn't worth it at all. Especially with how linear/un-fun it is.


Tried it on a level 7 account, killed nexus after 5:15, got 34 xp without any boost (34*2*2=136 xp with double boosts). 40000 xp from 1 to 30, 40000/136 = about 300 games. 300 * 5 minutes = 1500 minutes = 25 hours.

So since you can get xp for 3 hours every day, it would take 8-9 days from level 1 to 30, if you do it perfectly.



Just bought those boosts, and I didn't get the expected 136~ xp, but 235~ instead. So for some reason I'm getting 7 times the xp with double xp boosts, I thought they both were 2x xp?


I think it gives double the maximum available xp for the map.

Client down, was fun while it lasted. Got about 1k xp in an hour of spamming TT. Better than playing an hour long game for ~200
Porouscloud - NA LoL
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 20 2013 07:50 GMT
#6109
Why are you guys in such a hurry to get smurf accounts leveled anyway? I understand the desire to not have 20 min queues if you're in challenger, but aside from that what's the point?

I'm serious with the question. I've been leveling a smurf account slowly for a few months when playing with new friends or ranked disabled and I'm bored. Then I realize I could be getting more IP to collect everything just playing on my normal account which still needs a few champs.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 20 2013 08:13 GMT
#6110
Levling an account is just way more chill than playing on your main, because when you're < 30 its considered more "ok" to not follow meta (in other words pick whatever I feel like playing), and if your team sucks, well, no shit. And if your team sucks it's OK for you to suck. I sometimes play bad on purpose because it's just more relaxing not to tryhard -_-
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 20 2013 08:26 GMT
#6111
My lvl 18 alt has never played a game of SR. Always TT or ARAM
Useless wet fish.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 20 2013 08:44 GMT
#6112
I wonder when Lucian will get released.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 20 2013 08:50 GMT
#6113
On August 20 2013 17:44 Disengaged wrote:
I wonder when Lucian will get released.


Soon™
Porouscloud - NA LoL
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 09:00:20
August 20 2013 08:54 GMT
#6114
On August 20 2013 15:36 Navi wrote:
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls

Well the obvious extension is AP twitch with 30% CDR to go for double expunge burst damage.

Side note: Are there any other instances of AP-scaling physical damage? There's lots of AD-scaling magic damage but looking at Twitch's Expunge made me realize how rare the reverse is.

EDIT: Akali's E and Vi's E.
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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 20 2013 08:55 GMT
#6115
On August 20 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
Levling an account is just way more chill than playing on your main, because when you're < 30 its considered more "ok" to not follow meta (in other words pick whatever I feel like playing), and if your team sucks, well, no shit. And if your team sucks it's OK for you to suck. I sometimes play bad on purpose because it's just more relaxing not to tryhard -_-



League can be stressful for sure. I play a lot of dominion when I don't have four people who want to play normals. Everyone in the group I play with dislikes dominion except myself and one other guy. And most of the community?

So fun, all fighting 6-15 min games.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
August 20 2013 09:01 GMT
#6116
The best reason for a smurf is to create the ULTIMATE ARAM smurf
cool beans
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
August 20 2013 09:14 GMT
#6117
so... i get off work, and plan to play league for a couple of hours with some friends from work.

and it's fucking DOWN

gg riot
:-)
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
August 20 2013 09:22 GMT
#6118
On August 20 2013 18:14 LeeDawg wrote:
so... i get off work, and plan to play league for a couple of hours with some friends from work.

and it's fucking DOWN

gg riot


not gonna lie, it's my personal policy to only ranked at later than 2:30 AM PST since most people aren't awake enough to rage but awake enough to play and i cried tonight =c
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
August 20 2013 09:31 GMT
#6119
On August 20 2013 17:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 15:36 Navi wrote:
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls

Well the obvious extension is AP twitch with 30% CDR to go for double expunge burst damage.

Side note: Are there any other instances of AP-scaling physical damage? There's lots of AD-scaling magic damage but looking at Twitch's Expunge made me realize how rare the reverse is.

EDIT: Akali's E and Vi's E.


Nasus Q? Also a few ADC skillshot have AP ratios afaik.

Olaf axe is physical - dunno if they completely removed AP scaling from that.

It could be fun to see a champion with physical abilities that only scales with AP - but how would you go about building such a champion?
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 20 2013 09:32 GMT
#6120
My girlfriend's asleep after that GTPGlitch and I don't work in the morning so I'm with you. League servers are up most times so I won't complain much.

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