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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 20 2013 09:32 GMT
#6121
Main reasons for smurf

1. Most of my friends are quite a bit lower than my main in terms of MMR. This leads to one sided laning, and frustration.

2. Sometimes you just want to play Garen.

3. It's a good way to get off tilt.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
August 20 2013 09:36 GMT
#6122
On August 20 2013 18:31 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 17:54 TheYango wrote:
On August 20 2013 15:36 Navi wrote:
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls

Well the obvious extension is AP twitch with 30% CDR to go for double expunge burst damage.

Side note: Are there any other instances of AP-scaling physical damage? There's lots of AD-scaling magic damage but looking at Twitch's Expunge made me realize how rare the reverse is.

EDIT: Akali's E and Vi's E.


Nasus Q? Also a few ADC skillshot have AP ratios afaik.

Olaf axe is physical - dunno if they completely removed AP scaling from that.

It could be fun to see a champion with physical abilities that only scales with AP - but how would you go about building such a champion?


Nasus Q had no ap scaling, neither does Olaf Q
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 20 2013 09:51 GMT
#6123
Apart from the ones yango listed, only ones I can think of are ez Q and MF ult.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 20 2013 09:52 GMT
#6124
On August 20 2013 17:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 15:36 Navi wrote:
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls

Well the obvious extension is AP twitch with 30% CDR to go for double expunge burst damage.

Side note: Are there any other instances of AP-scaling physical damage? There's lots of AD-scaling magic damage but looking at Twitch's Expunge made me realize how rare the reverse is.

EDIT: Akali's E and Vi's E.

Trynda E is the first thing coming to mind. Quinn Q ofc, they even patched it to have bigger AP ratio.

That's already quite a lot !
The legend of Darien lives on
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 10:22:12
August 20 2013 09:56 GMT
#6125
On August 20 2013 18:31 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 17:54 TheYango wrote:
On August 20 2013 15:36 Navi wrote:
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls

Well the obvious extension is AP twitch with 30% CDR to go for double expunge burst damage.

Side note: Are there any other instances of AP-scaling physical damage? There's lots of AD-scaling magic damage but looking at Twitch's Expunge made me realize how rare the reverse is.

EDIT: Akali's E and Vi's E.


Nasus Q? Also a few ADC skillshot have AP ratios afaik.

Olaf axe is physical - dunno if they completely removed AP scaling from that.

It could be fun to see a champion with physical abilities that only scales with AP - but how would you go about building such a champion?



Nashor's tooth, and BAM, nerfed to the ground.
hi
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 20 2013 10:31 GMT
#6126
NA back up, three hours before Riot's scheduled time. Not bad.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 20 2013 10:41 GMT
#6127
http://www.lolnexus.com/scouter/search?name=mrtolkien&server=EUW

Is it me or did Riot Matchmaking crap on me with this one ? A Silver NOT EVEN DUO in a D1 game oO
The legend of Darien lives on
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 10:41 GMT
#6128
On August 20 2013 15:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 14:07 Gahlo wrote:
Watching videos of Husky playing league while commentating, all while having no idea what he's doing is incredible.

Maybe I'll do this with DotA.

Do it, WoS. I'll duo with you and it'll be grand.
Writer@WriterYamato
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
August 20 2013 10:53 GMT
#6129
On August 20 2013 18:56 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 18:31 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On August 20 2013 17:54 TheYango wrote:
On August 20 2013 15:36 Navi wrote:
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls

Well the obvious extension is AP twitch with 30% CDR to go for double expunge burst damage.

Side note: Are there any other instances of AP-scaling physical damage? There's lots of AD-scaling magic damage but looking at Twitch's Expunge made me realize how rare the reverse is.

EDIT: Akali's E and Vi's E.


Nasus Q? Also a few ADC skillshot have AP ratios afaik.

Olaf axe is physical - dunno if they completely removed AP scaling from that.

It could be fun to see a champion with physical abilities that only scales with AP - but how would you go about building such a champion?



Nashor's tooth, and BAM, nerfed to the ground.


You aren't building AD though, so attack speed isn't going to do much.
Basically you would need AP, CDR and ArPen... which is awkward since there is no good way to get all three.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
August 20 2013 11:00 GMT
#6130
On August 20 2013 19:41 mr_tolkien wrote:
http://www.lolnexus.com/scouter/search?name=mrtolkien&server=EUW

Is it me or did Riot Matchmaking crap on me with this one ? A Silver NOT EVEN DUO in a D1 game oO

his last ranked game on this account before today was from 6 months ago lol. he decayed down to silver
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
August 20 2013 11:03 GMT
#6131
On August 20 2013 19:53 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 18:56 Sponkz wrote:
On August 20 2013 18:31 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On August 20 2013 17:54 TheYango wrote:
On August 20 2013 15:36 Navi wrote:
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls

Well the obvious extension is AP twitch with 30% CDR to go for double expunge burst damage.

Side note: Are there any other instances of AP-scaling physical damage? There's lots of AD-scaling magic damage but looking at Twitch's Expunge made me realize how rare the reverse is.

EDIT: Akali's E and Vi's E.


Nasus Q? Also a few ADC skillshot have AP ratios afaik.

Olaf axe is physical - dunno if they completely removed AP scaling from that.

It could be fun to see a champion with physical abilities that only scales with AP - but how would you go about building such a champion?



Nashor's tooth, and BAM, nerfed to the ground.


You aren't building AD though, so attack speed isn't going to do much.
Basically you would need AP, CDR and ArPen... which is awkward since there is no good way to get all three.


If the champion has physical abilities but scales with AP, Riot can go crazy with the ratios, because they don't have to balance around the auto attacks the same way they have to with AD casters. Shouldn't be that hard to balance imo. Just build Standard AP with LW if you really need penetration.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 11:28:57
August 20 2013 11:28 GMT
#6132
EUW insult of the day
Master yi to me: Go play dota 2 diana.
Glorious SEA doto
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 20 2013 11:46 GMT
#6133
On August 20 2013 20:28 Fusilero wrote:
EUW insult of the day
Master yi to me: Go play dota 2 diana.

I've got DotA 2 pro tell me they find LoL more difficult than DotA 2.
Most of the ones I've talked to can't break higher than gold even trying hard.

So... That makes sense ? :D
The legend of Darien lives on
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
August 20 2013 11:52 GMT
#6134
On August 20 2013 17:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 15:36 Navi wrote:
you'd probably have an easier time of it because of the general concept of LoL as compared to DotA, but would def still be a worthwhile watch

and yango with the twitch facts (?!?), plz give me blue buff so i can double expunge pls

Well the obvious extension is AP twitch with 30% CDR to go for double expunge burst damage.

Side note: Are there any other instances of AP-scaling physical damage? There's lots of AD-scaling magic damage but looking at Twitch's Expunge made me realize how rare the reverse is.

EDIT: Akali's E and Vi's E.

Tryndamere E.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 20 2013 11:53 GMT
#6135
On August 20 2013 20:46 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:28 Fusilero wrote:
EUW insult of the day
Master yi to me: Go play dota 2 diana.

I've got DotA 2 pro tell me they find LoL more difficult than DotA 2.
Most of the ones I've talked to can't break higher than gold even trying hard.

So... That makes sense ? :D

Fucking dota 2 casuals.
Glorious SEA doto
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
August 20 2013 11:59 GMT
#6136
On August 20 2013 20:46 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:28 Fusilero wrote:
EUW insult of the day
Master yi to me: Go play dota 2 diana.

I've got DotA 2 pro tell me they find LoL more difficult than DotA 2.
Most of the ones I've talked to can't break higher than gold even trying hard.

So... That makes sense ? :D


What does "trying hard" mean? I cant imagine a DotA 2 pro having problems being better than me at LoL :O
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
August 20 2013 12:00 GMT
#6137
people who are really talented are likely to be able to be good at the other game if they really grinded it out / put their heart into it.

for dota, maybe pros that draw their expertise entirely from their extensive understanding and experience of the game would have a rougher time adapting than those with excellent mechanics and aggression, but i'm sure they could also come to understand league over some time.

and smurfs are awesome, fk the haters. i've been in the 20 min queue time elo hell and out of it, but solo queue becomes a grind at some point or another even if you don't reach that point. playing at different levels, while it might be unfair to others, can be more relaxing / carefree if you don't want others stalking / judging you for your "main" account's reputation or rank etc.
Hey! Listen!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 12:02:41
August 20 2013 12:01 GMT
#6138
On August 20 2013 20:59 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:46 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:28 Fusilero wrote:
EUW insult of the day
Master yi to me: Go play dota 2 diana.

I've got DotA 2 pro tell me they find LoL more difficult than DotA 2.
Most of the ones I've talked to can't break higher than gold even trying hard.

So... That makes sense ? :D


What does "trying hard" mean? I cant imagine a DotA 2 pro having problems being better than me at LoL :O

200+ games. Nobody on the aAa DotA 2 squad has a decent ranking in LoL even though they played quite a lot of it.

Tbh I found this hilarious xD They're not high-profile pro like any attending TI though. Ofc those ones would break D1 in LoL just as easily as high-profile LoL pros would be in very high matchmaking in a few hundred games.
The legend of Darien lives on
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 20 2013 12:09 GMT
#6139
On August 20 2013 21:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:59 zodde wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:46 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:28 Fusilero wrote:
EUW insult of the day
Master yi to me: Go play dota 2 diana.

I've got DotA 2 pro tell me they find LoL more difficult than DotA 2.
Most of the ones I've talked to can't break higher than gold even trying hard.

So... That makes sense ? :D


What does "trying hard" mean? I cant imagine a DotA 2 pro having problems being better than me at LoL :O

200+ games. Nobody on the aAa DotA 2 squad has a decent ranking in LoL even though they played quite a lot of it.

Tbh I found this hilarious xD They're not high-profile pro like any attending TI though. Ofc those ones would break D1 in LoL just as easily as high-profile LoL pros would be in very high matchmaking in a few hundred games.

200+ games isn't that much though.

Honestly, if they put in just a hundred more games I'd guarantee they'd become a LOT better. I knew a HoN pro who picked the game up, got to level 30, and just after a couple weeks he was diamond ELO.

But everyone is pretty terrible when switching games for the first 50-100 or so.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
August 20 2013 12:10 GMT
#6140
On August 20 2013 21:01 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:59 zodde wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:46 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:28 Fusilero wrote:
EUW insult of the day
Master yi to me: Go play dota 2 diana.

I've got DotA 2 pro tell me they find LoL more difficult than DotA 2.
Most of the ones I've talked to can't break higher than gold even trying hard.

So... That makes sense ? :D


What does "trying hard" mean? I cant imagine a DotA 2 pro having problems being better than me at LoL :O

200+ games. Nobody on the aAa DotA 2 squad has a decent ranking in LoL even though they played quite a lot of it.

Tbh I found this hilarious xD They're not high-profile pro like any attending TI though. Ofc those ones would break D1 in LoL just as easily as high-profile LoL pros would be in very high matchmaking in a few hundred games.


Wow, that's surprising to me. I never really saw any reason for DotA to be harder than LoL on the highest levels, it mostly comes down to the same skills, but I never even thought about LoL being the harder game.

To get a grasp of the aAa teams relative level, what LoL team would you compare them to?
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