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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
*citations needed. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Please sir, I need to figure out what your mind is thinking when you make these ridiculous claims without any evidence to back it up. Maybe one day I can be as sagacious as you are. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 21 2013 01:24 Roffles wrote: Please wise guru PX. Enlighten me on how you come to the conclusion that SEA teams are better than Western teams. Please sir, I need to figure out what your mind is thinking when you make these ridiculous claims without any evidence to back it up. Maybe one day I can be as sagacious as you are. Just challenge him to a showdown. 1v1. no barrs hold. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 21 2013 00:59 Kupon3ss wrote: Using some joke team like aAa? who are literally worse at dota than many of our forum members to set a bar of transition from dota to lol is somewhat laughable when there are readily available examples of top players hailing from dota backgrounds, some of the more prominent of being Misaya, Hyhy, and Doublelift just screams ignorance and confirmation bias No no I know it's not confirmation bias because I have another example that proves what I want to hear. Didn't you know destiny is only D2?!? | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On August 21 2013 01:24 Roffles wrote: Please wise guru PX. Enlighten me on how you come to the conclusion that SEA teams are better than Western teams. Please sir, I need to figure out what your mind is thinking when you make these ridiculous claims without any evidence to back it up. Maybe one day I can be as sagacious as you are. average SEA team finish at S2: 5.25 average Western team finish at S2: 7.6666 By S2 results, we can clearly see that SEA > West now obviously a lot might have changed from last year but until S3 we can only go by S2 results | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Ugh, please stop talking out of your ass. What teams from SEA are you even talking about here that are comparable to CLG and TSM (not even going to talk about C9/Vulcun here)? Perhaps SGS? The team that failed to qualify for Worlds a second year in a row, despite touted as the best team in the region. Or maybe you mean Mineski, the team that "subbed" in at the last minute and managed to win the whole thing. Says a lot about SEA, doesn't it? I swear, it's like you didn't even watch the SEA Regional qualifiers. I give you a ton of leeway when it comes to theorycrafting (you should thank TheYango about this tbh) but if you're going to making snide and blatantly wrong comments like this, I'm going to call you out. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 21 2013 01:35 Kupon3ss wrote: average SEA team finish at S2: 5.25 average Western team finish at S2: 7.6666 By S2 results, we can clearly see that SEA > West Plz sir. TPA is clearly not SEA. | ||
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Kupon3ss
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Are you accusing riot of misnaming regions and including teams that don't belong in certain regions for business-side reasons!? | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 20 2013 22:26 mr_tolkien wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Against_All_authority They got a Liquipedia page they're legit ! xD I don't know if you actually believe this idiocy or you're just trying really fucking hard to sell LoL as harder than DotA 2. On August 21 2013 00:59 Kupon3ss wrote: Using some joke team like aAa? who are literally worse at dota than many of our forum members to set a bar of transition from dota to lol is somewhat laughable when there are readily available examples of top players hailing from dota backgrounds, some of the more prominent of being Misaya, Hyhy, and Doublelift just screams ignorance and confirmation bias Thank you, Kupon. On August 20 2013 21:10 zodde wrote: To get a grasp of the aAa teams relative level, what LoL team would you compare them to? Well lets put it this way. - We'll consider the 6 EU teams that went to TI3 equivalent to EU LCS. - Then we consider a level below that we have teams like ICCup, rox.Kis, Kaipi, ex-QPAD, etc. Teams that can win games from some of the "LCS" teams and who are interchangeable with the bottom end LCS ones by performance. These would be equivalent to the Challenger level teams. - Then below that we have those teams that go to events and they do well enough for you to sort of know who they are but they never actually go anywhere. In DotA these are teams like 4FC, ex-RDM (the Synderen team), etc. aAa's DotA team is somewhere below that 3rd tier. They're that team that stomps local LANs in an area that doesn't really have LANs for the game, they play online cups and win a couple games off teams you've never heard of, and sometimes get a lucky run in an open cup if the bracket gives them enough no-name teams, but as soon as they face a team you've ever heard of before, they lose. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
So, can people go back to their respective forums now that this is settled? P.S. Or maybe the two games are just really differnt and this discussion is useless, who knows. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
C'mon guys, we're better than that. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
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canikizu
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On August 21 2013 01:40 Kupon3ss wrote: Are you accusing riot of misnaming regions and including teams that don't belong in certain regions for business-side reasons!? SEA representative in S2 was Saigon Joker only, TPA is not SEA team, it represented Taiwan/HongKong/Macau. Although Garena run Taiwanese LoL server, but they still make sure 2 regions are different. GPL SEA and GPL TW/HK are different. We of course still have tounrnaments like GPL Summer which combine everything under Garena. In a sense, it's like Riot runs LCS NA and LCS EU, which are 2 different one, but Garena sometimes have tournaments that mesh 2 together for fun. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 21 2013 01:52 Ketara wrote: Seriously, this conversation is so ridiculous and accomplishes nothing. I regret posting that insult. I just found it semi amusing didn't expect it to escalate like this. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On August 21 2013 01:58 Slayer91 wrote: when hasnt it I'm talking specifically about our League of Legends subforum. This is the first actual conversation (where at least some people are legitimately not trolling) about the merits of Dota and League as games. Usually I feel like we do a good job recognizing the two as different games and, although most of us here prefer League, we show a good amount of respect toward Dota. Who knows, maybe I'm romanticizing. But this is how I remember it. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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