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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 10 2013 03:18 GMT
#3821
Yeah my question meant "how did the thread swing?".
Maybe I'm just too used to borefests from LCS EU, CLG.EU in s2, or yesterday's game, but the stalling with fountain hook seemed way more entertaining (and possibly interesting in game, but I guess I'm underestimating how big a role the lack of vision in DotA plays there).

My pet peeves with the DotA spectating is that I can't easily see who's got which items, the different heroes' levels and which player is playing which hero unless they're appearing on screen (when compared to LoL). Also total gold and towers.
The gold and exp graphs are pretty neat though. But when trying to understand the hype from casters and stuff, being unable to link a hero to a player by just looking at the screen can be disconcerting.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2013 03:20 GMT
#3822
On August 10 2013 12:18 Alaric wrote:
Yeah my question meant "how did the thread swing?".
Maybe I'm just too used to borefests from LCS EU, CLG.EU in s2, or yesterday's game, but the stalling with fountain hook seemed way more entertaining (and possibly interesting in game, but I guess I'm underestimating how big a role the lack of vision in DotA plays there).

My pet peeves with the DotA spectating is that I can't easily see who's got which items, the different heroes' levels and which player is playing which hero unless they're appearing on screen (when compared to LoL). Also total gold and towers.
The gold and exp graphs are pretty neat though. But when trying to understand the hype from casters and stuff, being unable to link a hero to a player by just looking at the screen can be disconcerting.


watch in game
the spectator client in game is hands down the best out of any game available right now, all the things u wanted can be seen with ease
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 10 2013 03:20 GMT
#3823
On August 10 2013 12:18 Alaric wrote:
Yeah my question meant "how did the thread swing?".
Maybe I'm just too used to borefests from LCS EU, CLG.EU in s2, or yesterday's game, but the stalling with fountain hook seemed way more entertaining (and possibly interesting in game, but I guess I'm underestimating how big a role the lack of vision in DotA plays there).

My pet peeves with the DotA spectating is that I can't easily see who's got which items, the different heroes' levels and which player is playing which hero unless they're appearing on screen (when compared to LoL). Also total gold and towers.
The gold and exp graphs are pretty neat though. But when trying to understand the hype from casters and stuff, being unable to link a hero to a player by just looking at the screen can be disconcerting.

There was a lot of hype at the time but it didn't take long for the complainers to come out.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#3824
On August 10 2013 12:20 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:18 Alaric wrote:
Yeah my question meant "how did the thread swing?".
Maybe I'm just too used to borefests from LCS EU, CLG.EU in s2, or yesterday's game, but the stalling with fountain hook seemed way more entertaining (and possibly interesting in game, but I guess I'm underestimating how big a role the lack of vision in DotA plays there).

My pet peeves with the DotA spectating is that I can't easily see who's got which items, the different heroes' levels and which player is playing which hero unless they're appearing on screen (when compared to LoL). Also total gold and towers.
The gold and exp graphs are pretty neat though. But when trying to understand the hype from casters and stuff, being unable to link a hero to a player by just looking at the screen can be disconcerting.


watch in game
the spectator client in game is hands down the best out of any game available right now, all the things u wanted can be seen with ease

+commentary
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 10 2013 03:21 GMT
#3825
The casters have been pretty bad about checking items and xp then showing that to the players. If you watch ingame you will most likely get an easier picture to understand. In general dota casters aren't really that great I feel. They all kind of Riv clones with maybe a little less gibberish in there. Synderen when he casted would be like a Monte but he decided to focus on playing instead :<
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 10 2013 03:25 GMT
#3826
Is it always so low kill with these teams.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 10 2013 03:28 GMT
#3827
On August 10 2013 12:25 ExoFun wrote:
Is it always so low kill with these teams.

Nah these teams would usually have a lot more kills.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2013 03:29 GMT
#3828
On August 10 2013 12:25 ExoFun wrote:
Is it always so low kill with these teams.

not at all, this is just a certain playstyle that is called 'rat dota' where you just dodge fights constantly while slowly chipping away at towers with a team that has extremely high mobility and push power such as natures prophet and anti mage in this game, securing a good late game and money advantage on their ad carry equivalents
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 03:33:05
August 10 2013 03:32 GMT
#3829
It's basically a dota version of 3-1-1 with shit like shen+zed in your sidelanes being douchebags and running away if you try to do anything involving more than 1 person. (It's also far older, of course.)
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 10 2013 03:47 GMT
#3830
Why is the vlad guy with the orbs not being played anymore?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 10 2013 03:52 GMT
#3831
Wait, does the in client spectating of ti3 include commentary?
liftlift > tsm
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2013 03:53 GMT
#3832
his base damage got lowered by a large amount so he cant do well in mid lane anymore compared with other mids, and a core item (force staff) got changed so that it lowered his damage output by a significant amount
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2013 03:53 GMT
#3833
On August 10 2013 12:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Wait, does the in client spectating of ti3 include commentary?


you can listen to english, russian, chinese, or korean whatever you want

thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 10 2013 03:53 GMT
#3834
On August 10 2013 12:47 ExoFun wrote:
Why is the vlad guy with the orbs not being played anymore?

Invoker? He got hit by the nerf bat pretty hard a bit ago, he used to be super common. Specifically, his auto attacks do way less damage. It's problematic because he's a very level dependent hero so is almost always sent mid alone, where he now has a much more difficult time trading with the opponents.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 10 2013 03:53 GMT
#3835
On August 10 2013 12:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Wait, does the in client spectating of ti3 include commentary?

yeah. On the other hand though, it's a very heavy file if you want to watch the replays because it basically download all the version of commentary (english, russian, chinese.v.dvas.dv.) and the game.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 10 2013 03:54 GMT
#3836
On August 10 2013 12:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Wait, does the in client spectating of ti3 include commentary?


Yes. I watch streams because the client audio lags for me, but it's pretty sweet otherwise.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 03:56:03
August 10 2013 03:55 GMT
#3837
On August 10 2013 12:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Wait, does the in client spectating of ti3 include commentary?

Yep.

In-client spectating (not just for TI3 but for most tournaments) usually includes commentary and you can get different languages if they are offered.

RIOT WHERE'S OFFICIAL REPLAYS?


I have to say that I really like the festive feeling of TI3 and all the little things like fantasy teams and what not. I'm hoping Riot learns from this and makes worlds a little more interactive.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 10 2013 03:58 GMT
#3838
On August 10 2013 12:53 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:47 ExoFun wrote:
Why is the vlad guy with the orbs not being played anymore?

Invoker? He got hit by the nerf bat pretty hard a bit ago, he used to be super common. Specifically, his auto attacks do way less damage. It's problematic because he's a very level dependent hero so is almost always sent mid alone, where he now has a much more difficult time trading with the opponents.

Yea last years at The international he was always picked from what i remembered.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 10 2013 03:58 GMT
#3839
On August 10 2013 12:55 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Wait, does the in client spectating of ti3 include commentary?

Yep.

In-client spectating (not just for TI3 but for most tournaments) usually includes commentary and you can get different languages if they are offered.

RIOT WHERE'S OFFICIAL REPLAYS?


I have to say that I really like the festive feeling of TI3 and all the little things like fantasy teams and what not. I'm hoping Riot learns from this and makes worlds a little more interactive.


FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2013 04:02 GMT
#3840
On August 10 2013 12:58 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:53 Haiq343 wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:47 ExoFun wrote:
Why is the vlad guy with the orbs not being played anymore?

Invoker? He got hit by the nerf bat pretty hard a bit ago, he used to be super common. Specifically, his auto attacks do way less damage. It's problematic because he's a very level dependent hero so is almost always sent mid alone, where he now has a much more difficult time trading with the opponents.

Yea last years at The international he was always picked from what i remembered.


extremely high skill cap and very high entertainment to watch but was played too much/too strong so he got nerfed a bit, people are hoping he will get buffed back in the future
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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