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On August 10 2013 11:04 sung_moon wrote:
Not sure if we allowed to talk about TI3, but I swear listening to my friend explain Dota2 matches as they go on make me believe Dota2 is a more broken/"cracked out" version of LoL.
7 second stuns, everyone has a "QSS", half of these picks can TF ulti/blick like every 5 seconds, these Pudge hooks, walls, and overall it just seems like Dota2 is the "Marvel 3" while LoL is the "Street Fighter" imo.
Could just me just not fully understanding exactly whats going on in Dota2 and/or my friend exaggerating things.
edit: As I type this I just saw Gyrocopter shoot a Corki ulti but it homes rofl.
double edit: Loooooooooooooooooool Hook into Fountain tp. Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuqq.
90 percent of dota shit is anti fun by league standards
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On August 10 2013 11:32 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:04 sung_moon wrote:
Not sure if we allowed to talk about TI3, but I swear listening to my friend explain Dota2 matches as they go on make me believe Dota2 is a more broken/"cracked out" version of LoL.
7 second stuns, everyone has a "QSS", half of these picks can TF ulti/blick like every 5 seconds, these Pudge hooks, walls, and overall it just seems like Dota2 is the "Marvel 3" while LoL is the "Street Fighter" imo.
Could just me just not fully understanding exactly whats going on in Dota2 and/or my friend exaggerating things.
edit: As I type this I just saw Gyrocopter shoot a Corki ulti but it homes rofl.
double edit: Loooooooooooooooooool Hook into Fountain tp. Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuqq. hook into fountain ruined that game for me. Everything else was fun to watch though. + Show Spoiler +Are we allowed to talk about dota2 in this threador will neo shine his darkness?
I thought it was amazing. The LR thread got vicious with people complaining about it and people defending it.
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On August 10 2013 11:36 FinestHour wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:04 sung_moon wrote:
Not sure if we allowed to talk about TI3, but I swear listening to my friend explain Dota2 matches as they go on make me believe Dota2 is a more broken/"cracked out" version of LoL.
7 second stuns, everyone has a "QSS", half of these picks can TF ulti/blick like every 5 seconds, these Pudge hooks, walls, and overall it just seems like Dota2 is the "Marvel 3" while LoL is the "Street Fighter" imo.
Could just me just not fully understanding exactly whats going on in Dota2 and/or my friend exaggerating things.
edit: As I type this I just saw Gyrocopter shoot a Corki ulti but it homes rofl.
double edit: Loooooooooooooooooool Hook into Fountain tp. Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuqq. 90 percent of dota shit is anti fun by league standards
It's been fun going through the DotA wiki learning what some of the champions I've never heard of do. Oh Venomancer has a skillshot slow.... and it lasts 13 seconds.... oh Clockwerk has a super J4 ult... on a 15 second cooldown... you see all these normal league abilities and then theres inevitably something seemingly insanely OP about them. But then thats DotA design style, I enjoy it but based on the amount of bitching about Pudge/Chen combo there's a lot of people out there who prefer the more flat, counterplay oriented LoL style.
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Yeah, it's fine to talk about TI3 in this thread. I've got no problems with it. Just no butthurtness plz. I saw the Na`Vi Game 3 too.
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On August 10 2013 11:49 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:32 nojitosunrise wrote:On August 10 2013 11:04 sung_moon wrote:
Not sure if we allowed to talk about TI3, but I swear listening to my friend explain Dota2 matches as they go on make me believe Dota2 is a more broken/"cracked out" version of LoL.
7 second stuns, everyone has a "QSS", half of these picks can TF ulti/blick like every 5 seconds, these Pudge hooks, walls, and overall it just seems like Dota2 is the "Marvel 3" while LoL is the "Street Fighter" imo.
Could just me just not fully understanding exactly whats going on in Dota2 and/or my friend exaggerating things.
edit: As I type this I just saw Gyrocopter shoot a Corki ulti but it homes rofl.
double edit: Loooooooooooooooooool Hook into Fountain tp. Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuqq. hook into fountain ruined that game for me. Everything else was fun to watch though. + Show Spoiler +Are we allowed to talk about dota2 in this threador will neo shine his darkness? I thought it was amazing. The LR thread got vicious with people complaining about it and people defending it.
How did it swing when + Show Spoiler +Na'Vi started their comeback with that 5-0 team wipe from nowhere
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i think most people were just mad that NAVI lost the game extremely badly early on, but just stalled the game with an extremely cheesy high risk strategy that delayed the game by a good amount resulting in winning the game. fountain hooking is intended and probably will stay in the game contrary to what a few angry LR participants want
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The first game of Dota2 I watched was that 98 minute snorefest. I'm glad that I think it was IG won because DK fucked around for 30 fucking minutes and did nothing with their advantage.
And if Koreans really got into Dota2 I can guarantee they would shit stomp that level of play.
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On August 10 2013 11:54 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
The first game of Dota2 I watched was that 98 minute snorefest. I'm glad that I think it was IG won because DK fucked around for 30 fucking minutes and did nothing with their advantage.
And if Koreans really got into Dota2 I can guarantee they would shit stomp that level of play.
the level of play in that game was very high level. thats mainly you not understanding the knifes edge that the game was actually riding on with the weavers split push presence as well as the dynamic of divine rapier in the game completely negating DKs gold advantage
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On August 10 2013 11:52 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:49 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 10 2013 11:32 nojitosunrise wrote:On August 10 2013 11:04 sung_moon wrote:
Not sure if we allowed to talk about TI3, but I swear listening to my friend explain Dota2 matches as they go on make me believe Dota2 is a more broken/"cracked out" version of LoL.
7 second stuns, everyone has a "QSS", half of these picks can TF ulti/blick like every 5 seconds, these Pudge hooks, walls, and overall it just seems like Dota2 is the "Marvel 3" while LoL is the "Street Fighter" imo.
Could just me just not fully understanding exactly whats going on in Dota2 and/or my friend exaggerating things.
edit: As I type this I just saw Gyrocopter shoot a Corki ulti but it homes rofl.
double edit: Loooooooooooooooooool Hook into Fountain tp. Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuqq. hook into fountain ruined that game for me. Everything else was fun to watch though. + Show Spoiler +Are we allowed to talk about dota2 in this threador will neo shine his darkness? I thought it was amazing. The LR thread got vicious with people complaining about it and people defending it. How did it swing when + Show Spoiler +Na'Vi started their comeback with that 5-0 team wipe from nowhere ?
It was mostly fountain hooks and the threat of fountain hooks stalling it out long enough for Xboct to farm up his Alch into an unstoppable juggernaut.
Personally, I don't think fountain hooking should be allowed/part of the game. If I recall correctly, fountain hooking was actually patched out of WC3 Dota.
On August 10 2013 11:54 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
The first game of Dota2 I watched was that 98 minute snorefest. I'm glad that I think it was IG won because DK fucked around for 30 fucking minutes and did nothing with their advantage.
And if Koreans really got into Dota2 I can guarantee they would shit stomp that level of play.
I'm not sure about that. There are certain elements of Dota 2 that make turtling pretty easy in the right matchups.
Specifically the relative scarcity of vision and high ground advantage. There's also some abilities that turtle extremely well like Dark Seer's ultimate.
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On August 10 2013 11:52 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:49 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 10 2013 11:32 nojitosunrise wrote:On August 10 2013 11:04 sung_moon wrote:
Not sure if we allowed to talk about TI3, but I swear listening to my friend explain Dota2 matches as they go on make me believe Dota2 is a more broken/"cracked out" version of LoL.
7 second stuns, everyone has a "QSS", half of these picks can TF ulti/blick like every 5 seconds, these Pudge hooks, walls, and overall it just seems like Dota2 is the "Marvel 3" while LoL is the "Street Fighter" imo.
Could just me just not fully understanding exactly whats going on in Dota2 and/or my friend exaggerating things.
edit: As I type this I just saw Gyrocopter shoot a Corki ulti but it homes rofl.
double edit: Loooooooooooooooooool Hook into Fountain tp. Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuqq. hook into fountain ruined that game for me. Everything else was fun to watch though. + Show Spoiler +Are we allowed to talk about dota2 in this threador will neo shine his darkness? I thought it was amazing. The LR thread got vicious with people complaining about it and people defending it. How did it swing when + Show Spoiler +Na'Vi started their comeback with that 5-0 team wipe from nowhere ?
Alchemist is a better 1v1 hero than Gyro(TF carry). TF had a timing where they could get aegis then push into the base but as they got that Dendi landed a fountain hook so it removed the timing they had. This bought space for alchemist to gain the gold lead over TF carries so even though TF had all this farm early they couldn't convert it into any advantage and then Navi managed to catch them in a bad engage for the win.
TF didn't have any real way to engage on Navi so they couldn't siege objectives with the threat of fountain hooking into a 5v4(Pudge isn't really important in the teamfight outside of the hook)
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Why do the heroes in DotA all have their own color on the minimap?
It's hard to even tell what team they're on, even though it's X's and O's I guess?
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On August 10 2013 12:00 Ketara wrote:
Why do the heroes in DotA all have their own color on the minimap?
It's hard to even tell what team they're on, even though it's X's and O's I guess?
Each player has their own color. X is Dire (red side), O is Radiant (green side).
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You can change it to be team colours or what player colours are. Really preference(I prefer player colours so I can tell what hero it is instantly).
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On August 10 2013 12:00 Ketara wrote:
Why do the heroes in DotA all have their own color on the minimap?
It's hard to even tell what team they're on, even though it's X's and O's I guess?
the map can be customized to ones liking, you can increase the size of the icons or have it be permanently set to a heroes icon but most people prefer the color because of years of playing u just know which color is on which team
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The color scheme is a legacy from the Wc3 days. Dire side heroes all have 'darker' colors while the radiant are brighter in general.
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United States23745 Posts
On August 10 2013 11:52 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:49 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 10 2013 11:32 nojitosunrise wrote:On August 10 2013 11:04 sung_moon wrote:
Not sure if we allowed to talk about TI3, but I swear listening to my friend explain Dota2 matches as they go on make me believe Dota2 is a more broken/"cracked out" version of LoL.
7 second stuns, everyone has a "QSS", half of these picks can TF ulti/blick like every 5 seconds, these Pudge hooks, walls, and overall it just seems like Dota2 is the "Marvel 3" while LoL is the "Street Fighter" imo.
Could just me just not fully understanding exactly whats going on in Dota2 and/or my friend exaggerating things.
edit: As I type this I just saw Gyrocopter shoot a Corki ulti but it homes rofl.
double edit: Loooooooooooooooooool Hook into Fountain tp. Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuqq. hook into fountain ruined that game for me. Everything else was fun to watch though. + Show Spoiler +Are we allowed to talk about dota2 in this threador will neo shine his darkness? I thought it was amazing. The LR thread got vicious with people complaining about it and people defending it. How did it swing when + Show Spoiler +Na'Vi started their comeback with that 5-0 team wipe from nowhere ?
The salt reached it's peak after Navi won the game. The debate is still going on even through the Fnatic vs Orange game. It's getting pretty old lol.
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It's pretty sad that it's still going on when H4nni is beasting so hard. Also funny how LoL and SC2 is being blamed for the reason it's continuing. Always got to hate other games even if they aren't involved..
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I almost replied to that guy but realized it wasn't worth it lol
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its a confirmed change its end of story anyone still talking about it is an idiot
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On August 10 2013 11:49 TheLink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 11:36 FinestHour wrote:On August 10 2013 11:04 sung_moon wrote:
Not sure if we allowed to talk about TI3, but I swear listening to my friend explain Dota2 matches as they go on make me believe Dota2 is a more broken/"cracked out" version of LoL.
7 second stuns, everyone has a "QSS", half of these picks can TF ulti/blick like every 5 seconds, these Pudge hooks, walls, and overall it just seems like Dota2 is the "Marvel 3" while LoL is the "Street Fighter" imo.
Could just me just not fully understanding exactly whats going on in Dota2 and/or my friend exaggerating things.
edit: As I type this I just saw Gyrocopter shoot a Corki ulti but it homes rofl.
double edit: Loooooooooooooooooool Hook into Fountain tp. Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuqq. 90 percent of dota shit is anti fun by league standards It's been fun going through the DotA wiki learning what some of the champions I've never heard of do. Oh Venomancer has a skillshot slow.... and it lasts 13 seconds.... oh Clockwerk has a super J4 ult... on a 15 second cooldown... you see all these normal league abilities and then theres inevitably something seemingly insanely OP about them. But then thats DotA design style, I enjoy it but based on the amount of bitching about Pudge/Chen combo there's a lot of people out there who prefer the more flat, counterplay oriented LoL style.
On the other hand, you have spells that cost 200 mana when the mana pool is like 600.
Even though League is based on DotA they're pretty much entirely different games and trying to compare between the two on granular levels isn't very helpful since a lot of the interaction works on a high level.
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