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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 11 2013 16:28 GMT
#681
If bot wins you get dragons most of the time too.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 11 2013 16:29 GMT
#682
If bot wins, you're more suited for sieging turrets aswell.
hi
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 11 2013 16:32 GMT
#683
The support pick affects things a lot too. Some have much higher carry potential because they dictate fights better. If I only played Soraka/Taric/Sona/Janna I'd hate myself too. That's not to say they aren't good champs or influential, but that you're mostly reacting instead of creating action for your team to follow up on.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 11 2013 16:35 GMT
#684
How is sona not a playmaker lolz.You almost autowin lane.That alone should be enough.

Just duoq with a good ad OR switch to ad yourself.If you have played support for a long time you should know what you need to do as ad and carry.It just so happens that in eu the average support main is a lot better than the ad main so you should win and carry more often imo.
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
July 11 2013 16:45 GMT
#685
On July 12 2013 01:05 Slusher wrote:
I'm actually pretty annoyed NA and EU still get more (base)slots than Korea, what possible argument is there, champions has more teams than either LCS.


6 East, 6 West, 1 International, 1 Allstar.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 11 2013 16:46 GMT
#686
I won a lot of games playing aggressive Sona. Flash-Crescendo is one thing, but if you can play up in the lane safely and you know your limits, you can also win that way.

I also remember winning a lane on blue side by warding dragon pit early. When their bot lane came through river after helping out with blue buff, we zoned them pretty hard and we were halfway to level 3 before they hit level 2.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 16:53:25
July 11 2013 16:51 GMT
#687
On July 12 2013 01:32 Sandster wrote:
The support pick affects things a lot too. Some have much higher carry potential because they dictate fights better. If I only played Soraka/Taric/Sona/Janna I'd hate myself too. That's not to say they aren't good champs or influential, but that you're mostly reacting instead of creating action for your team to follow up on.


see my previous posts after soraka taric sona being my main supports with 60%+ winrates
i dont consider myself a support player but my support winrates are higher than my "main" cahmps simply because of how broken the role is

janna might be the most op support right now as well
heals are so pathetic so a nearly 300 hp shield and 50 ad boost on like a 6 second cd with max cdr is so strong
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 11 2013 16:58 GMT
#688
On July 12 2013 01:24 AsnSensation wrote:
Eu:atn, gambit, fanatic

Gonna be harder for Alternate with last week and the 4 to come.

On another note, High Command Katarina is classier in splash art than in game, guess I'm not jumping on the promo then.

And 75% Leona winrate over 30 games, hue. It's not about "the plays" (Flash Pulv from Alistar to initiate), you ward stuff, you ping where their jungle is, you don't have to farm so you can use your attention elsewhere (I tell people when I know the jungler is near their lanes, most often around when his buffs spawn but even something that simple is often overlooked), you dictate the flow of the lane, you can communicate with the team to set up plays "Sej, Draven blew his flash and I pinked the drake, come whenever you want for a free kill+drake" and you also make sure that your team has an actual support.

(Taric counters Leona? I'd pick Leona after him because he was the popular choice for people who didn't want to support prior to his nerfs and they didn't know how to play him.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
July 11 2013 16:59 GMT
#689
On July 12 2013 01:51 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 01:32 Sandster wrote:
The support pick affects things a lot too. Some have much higher carry potential because they dictate fights better. If I only played Soraka/Taric/Sona/Janna I'd hate myself too. That's not to say they aren't good champs or influential, but that you're mostly reacting instead of creating action for your team to follow up on.


see my previous posts after soraka taric sona being my main supports with 60%+ winrates
i dont consider myself a support player but my support winrates are higher than my "main" cahmps simply because of how broken the role is

janna might be the most op support right now as well
heals are so pathetic so a nearly 300 hp shield and 50 ad boost on like a 6 second cd with max cdr is so strong

Janna is so strong.

A shield that lets you win the laning phase, a passive that combined with mobility boots lets you ward aggressive yet safely. And then her ability to disengage a fight or CC a target is so strong. She's probably the support I have the highest win rate with, and you don't need to pidgenhole yourself to playing reactively.

@DreamingBird
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:03:28
July 11 2013 17:02 GMT
#690
it's crazy how easy it is to come from behind just by out warding the enemy support after the lane phase.

making picks in solo que is beyond easy if the enemy support is greedy (he/she usually is)
Carrilord has arrived.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 11 2013 17:05 GMT
#691
pretty stoked that NA is getting 3 slots. on an unbiased, objective level, it doesn't really seem fair. i thought the point of all-stars was to garner an extra slot? but in terms of knowing how teams can vault ahead at the end of the season and nab playoff spots, i'm insanely excited. maybe what we have in store this week can start our turnaround O_O
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 11 2013 17:07 GMT
#692
Ehm just for clarification, what exactly is the definition of unique viewers?

If I, over the span of the a 3 day event, open and load the stream e.g. 7 times from my connection. Is that 7 unique views or am I still only 1 unique viewers. Because if it is the latter, 18 Million different people tuning in to watch Allstars is fucking Crazy O_O
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 11 2013 17:09 GMT
#693
On July 12 2013 01:32 Sandster wrote:
The support pick affects things a lot too. Some have much higher carry potential because they dictate fights better. If I only played Soraka/Taric/Sona/Janna I'd hate myself too. That's not to say they aren't good champs or influential, but that you're mostly reacting instead of creating action for your team to follow up on.


I dunno about Sona/Janna. Janna is pretty much the only support I play and there's so much carry potential. All that peel sho it makes me wake up with sweats
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
July 11 2013 17:12 GMT
#694
On July 12 2013 02:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Ehm just for clarification, what exactly is the definition of unique viewers?

If I, over the span of the a 3 day event, open and load the stream e.g. 7 times from my connection. Is that 7 unique views or am I still only 1 unique viewers. Because if it is the latter, 18 Million different people tuning in to watch Allstars is fucking Crazy O_O


I'm pretty sure it's based off of your ip rather than how many times you load up the stream.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 11 2013 17:14 GMT
#695
I bought nami when she was released so if i have to support its never really a problem.
Bubbles make plays.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
July 11 2013 17:17 GMT
#696
On July 12 2013 02:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Ehm just for clarification, what exactly is the definition of unique viewers?

If I, over the span of the a 3 day event, open and load the stream e.g. 7 times from my connection. Is that 7 unique views or am I still only 1 unique viewers. Because if it is the latter, 18 Million different people tuning in to watch Allstars is fucking Crazy O_O


Ip + cookies.


it seems that S3 going to be single elim

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1i30md/the_season_3_world_finals_will_be_at_the_awesome/cb0iaaf
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:19:45
July 11 2013 17:17 GMT
#697
On July 12 2013 02:09 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 01:32 Sandster wrote:
The support pick affects things a lot too. Some have much higher carry potential because they dictate fights better. If I only played Soraka/Taric/Sona/Janna I'd hate myself too. That's not to say they aren't good champs or influential, but that you're mostly reacting instead of creating action for your team to follow up on.


I dunno about Sona/Janna. Janna is pretty much the only support I play and there's so much carry potential. All that peel sho it makes me wake up with sweats


I even said that I think they're strong champs in my original post....

Just that if I played only those champs I'd probably lose my mind since your entire champ pool is centered around a playstyle where you ward and wait for the other team to engage into you, or your team to engage the other team.

If you lose a lot with that kind of playstyle I can see why it's easy to get frustrated, instead of playing Nami and saying "yeah I missed too many aqua prisons / tidal waves that would have won the fight/game".
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 11 2013 17:19 GMT
#698
On July 12 2013 02:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Ehm just for clarification, what exactly is the definition of unique viewers?

If I, over the span of the a 3 day event, open and load the stream e.g. 7 times from my connection. Is that 7 unique views or am I still only 1 unique viewers. Because if it is the latter, 18 Million different people tuning in to watch Allstars is fucking Crazy O_O


i believe that you turning the stream on and off 7 times would count 7 toward total viewership, but only once toward unique viewership
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 11 2013 17:20 GMT
#699
On July 12 2013 02:09 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 01:32 Sandster wrote:
The support pick affects things a lot too. Some have much higher carry potential because they dictate fights better. If I only played Soraka/Taric/Sona/Janna I'd hate myself too. That's not to say they aren't good champs or influential, but that you're mostly reacting instead of creating action for your team to follow up on.


I dunno about Sona/Janna. Janna is pretty much the only support I play and there's so much carry potential. All that peel sho it makes me wake up with sweats


I feel like Janna is very good in solo queue because she wants to play a passive lane, which prevents you from making a lot of early game mistakes as a duo.

I think a lot of the problems in bot lane come from two strangers playing with each other. One person engages and the other isn't ready to follow up, etc. Janna never has those problems because the playstyle with her is to just sit back and play reactionary to what everybody else is doing, so you're always on the same page as your ADC.

Then her late game is just amazing.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:22:44
July 11 2013 17:21 GMT
#700
Okay but if you're playing a hard engage comp (soloq favorite) that's basically what everyone is doing. (WRT waiting around to engage/ be engaged on)

I enjoy playing support.

Also lux support: zyra is all around better in that role.
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