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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:22:18
July 11 2013 17:21 GMT
#701
so sad China gets only 2 spots, the same as SEA

edit: how is the wildcard team determined?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 11 2013 17:23 GMT
#702
Wasn't it decided from the winning region of Allstars? I dunno how they will pick the wildcard from that region though.
Never Knows Best.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
July 11 2013 17:25 GMT
#703
On July 12 2013 02:21 3 Lions wrote:
so sad China gets only 2 spots, the same as SEA

edit: how is the wildcard team determined?

Winner of gamescom.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 11 2013 17:25 GMT
#704
In my opinon, the top 5 support characters are (in no order) Sona, Nami, Thresh, Janna, and Blitzcrank. My reasoning for this is specific to each team's composition:

Have a Kennen or some other champ with a great engage/dive ult? Grab Sona for Flash-Crescendo, play smart in team fights and just watch Kennen wreck face. Or get Nami for the bubbles and Tidal Wave to knock-up into the engage.

Up against a poke-heavy team and you have a lot of tanky bruisers? Grab Thresh/Clank, learn them hook shots, isolate/focus the hooked target then win the ensuing 5v4.

Up against a dive-heavy composition? Nami, Sona, and Janna's ult all have great disengage properties.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 11 2013 17:26 GMT
#705
On July 12 2013 02:23 Slaughter wrote:
Wasn't it decided from the winning region of Allstars? I dunno how they will pick the wildcard from that region though.


I thought so too, but from the website:

"Korea - 3 entries
International Wildcard - 1 entry"

Since the 3rd Korean slot is given to them from winning all-stars, there's ANOTHER spot.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9224 Posts
July 11 2013 17:27 GMT
#706
Champions of Brazil, Lating America, Tukey, CIS & Oceania go to Gamscom and play eachother, winner there is the "international wildcard"
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 11 2013 17:30 GMT
#707
On July 12 2013 02:25 Kinie wrote:
In my opinon, the top 5 support characters are (in no order) Sona, Nami, Thresh, Janna, and Blitzcrank. My reasoning for this is specific to each team's composition:

Have a Kennen or some other champ with a great engage/dive ult? Grab Sona for Flash-Crescendo, play smart in team fights and just watch Kennen wreck face. Or get Nami for the bubbles and Tidal Wave to knock-up into the engage.

Up against a poke-heavy team and you have a lot of tanky bruisers? Grab Thresh/Clank, learn them hook shots, isolate/focus the hooked target then win the ensuing 5v4.

Up against a dive-heavy composition? Nami, Sona, and Janna's ult all have great disengage properties.


I like your list but I feel like Zyra is on even tier with half your list, making a top6 perhaps more relevant.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 11 2013 17:31 GMT
#708
Although It sucks that China only get 2 slots; and Korea would've only gotten 2 slots if they didn't win allstars. You also have to look at the size of the league players population.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:34:04
July 11 2013 17:33 GMT
#709
are you seriously leveraging population as an argument against china

+ Show Spoiler +
I just think it's funny but practically speaking, from a marketing prospective a chinese player isn't worth much, so you are right.
Carrilord has arrived.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 11 2013 17:34 GMT
#710
On July 12 2013 02:17 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Ehm just for clarification, what exactly is the definition of unique viewers?

If I, over the span of the a 3 day event, open and load the stream e.g. 7 times from my connection. Is that 7 unique views or am I still only 1 unique viewers. Because if it is the latter, 18 Million different people tuning in to watch Allstars is fucking Crazy O_O


Ip + cookies.


it seems that S3 going to be single elim

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1i30md/the_season_3_world_finals_will_be_at_the_awesome/cb0iaaf


I don't really like the 4 teams auto bye into quarterfinals like last year because assuming it's like last year where riot considers 5 major regions (NA, EU, KOR, CN, SEA) one of them is gonna get fucked over again like frost last year.

But it also means we could potentially only be left with 1 NA & 1 EU Team from the QF and onwards.

Who you guys think is the favourite for the int. Wildcard? I don't know much about any of those scenes, but I guess it comes down to Brazil vs CIS.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9224 Posts
July 11 2013 17:35 GMT
#711
It depends 100% of who gets left out, you can bet your ass WE has more fans that MYM for example if both finish 3rd in their repsective regions.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:36:55
July 11 2013 17:36 GMT
#712
On July 12 2013 02:34 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:17 nojitosunrise wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Ehm just for clarification, what exactly is the definition of unique viewers?

If I, over the span of the a 3 day event, open and load the stream e.g. 7 times from my connection. Is that 7 unique views or am I still only 1 unique viewers. Because if it is the latter, 18 Million different people tuning in to watch Allstars is fucking Crazy O_O


Ip + cookies.


it seems that S3 going to be single elim

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1i30md/the_season_3_world_finals_will_be_at_the_awesome/cb0iaaf


I don't really like the 4 teams auto bye into quarterfinals like last year because assuming it's like last year where riot considers 5 major regions (NA, EU, KOR, CN, SEA) one of them is gonna get fucked over again like frost last year.

But it also means we could potentially only be left with 1 NA & 1 EU Team from the QF and onwards.

Who you guys think is the favourite for the int. Wildcard? I don't know much about any of those scenes, but I guess it comes down to Brazil vs CIS.

I thought it was decided from Allstars that no European team would get a bye in to the QF, because they finished last.
I might be wrong though.

On July 12 2013 02:35 Dan HH wrote:
It depends 100% of who gets left out, you can bet your ass WE has more fans that MYM for example if both finish 3rd in their repsective regions.

I would be so so so sad if this happens
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 11 2013 17:37 GMT
#713
On July 12 2013 02:36 3 Lions wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 12 2013 02:34 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:17 nojitosunrise wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:07 AsnSensation wrote:
Ehm just for clarification, what exactly is the definition of unique viewers?

If I, over the span of the a 3 day event, open and load the stream e.g. 7 times from my connection. Is that 7 unique views or am I still only 1 unique viewers. Because if it is the latter, 18 Million different people tuning in to watch Allstars is fucking Crazy O_O


Ip + cookies.


it seems that S3 going to be single elim

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1i30md/the_season_3_world_finals_will_be_at_the_awesome/cb0iaaf


I don't really like the 4 teams auto bye into quarterfinals like last year because assuming it's like last year where riot considers 5 major regions (NA, EU, KOR, CN, SEA) one of them is gonna get fucked over again like frost last year.

But it also means we could potentially only be left with 1 NA & 1 EU Team from the QF and onwards.

Who you guys think is the favourite for the int. Wildcard? I don't know much about any of those scenes, but I guess it comes down to Brazil vs CIS.

I thought it was decided from Allstars that no European team would get a bye in to the QF, because they finished last.
I might be wrong though.


totally forgot about that you're right

fuck Europe whyyy :D
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:38:30
July 11 2013 17:38 GMT
#714
So it's possible not a single EU team gets in playoffs? Dammit Gambit believe!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 11 2013 17:38 GMT
#715
On July 12 2013 02:33 Slusher wrote:
are you seriously leveraging population as an argument against china

+ Show Spoiler +
I just think it's funny but practically speaking, from a marketing prospective a chinese player isn't worth much, so you are right.

Yea' pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Riot's judgement was fair; plus the best team will still win the world championships.
liftlift > tsm
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9224 Posts
July 11 2013 17:40 GMT
#716
On July 12 2013 02:34 AsnSensation wrote:
Who you guys think is the favourite for the int. Wildcard? I don't know much about any of those scenes, but I guess it comes down to Brazil vs CIS.

Turkey has a good chance too, Dark Passage finished 2nd at Dreamhack. LAT & OCE look pretty bad though.
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
July 11 2013 18:10 GMT
#717
On July 12 2013 02:40 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:34 AsnSensation wrote:
Who you guys think is the favourite for the int. Wildcard? I don't know much about any of those scenes, but I guess it comes down to Brazil vs CIS.

Turkey has a good chance too, Dark Passage finished 2nd at Dreamhack. LAT & OCE look pretty bad though.


OCE will be a free round for any other team. Our scene looks sooooo weak it's not even funny.
Veni, vidi, vici!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 18:15:20
July 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#718
On July 12 2013 02:21 Mauzel wrote:
Okay but if you're playing a hard engage comp (soloq favorite) that's basically what everyone is doing. (WRT waiting around to engage/ be engaged on)

I enjoy playing support.

Also lux support: zyra is all around better in that role.


It might be a style thing, but I prefer Lux to Zyra and I'm much better with the former. I'd say Lux brings much more damage while Zyra is better at zone control.

I have always felt fairly underwhelmed with Zyra as a support, and even as an AP mid, though I'd have to really grind games with her to figure out why I dislike her so much (and in the process I'd probably learn to like her, lol).
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 11 2013 18:14 GMT
#719
On July 12 2013 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:21 Mauzel wrote:
Okay but if you're playing a hard engage comp (soloq favorite) that's basically what everyone is doing. (WRT waiting around to engage/ be engaged on)

I enjoy playing support.

Also lux support: zyra is all around better in that role.


It might be a style thing, but I prefer Lux to Zyra and I'm much better with the former. If I had to make a brief analysis, I'd say Lux brings much more damage while Zyra is better at zone control.

I have always felt fairly underwhelmed with Zyra as a support, and even as an AP mid, though I'd have to really grind games with her to figure out why I dislike her so much (and in the process I'd probably learn to like her, lol).


Lux is like nidalee with a bind. She is bad past early lane phase without some serious AP.

Zyra, on the other hand, has a root, slow, and her ult is amazing.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 11 2013 18:16 GMT
#720
On July 12 2013 03:14 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 03:13 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:21 Mauzel wrote:
Okay but if you're playing a hard engage comp (soloq favorite) that's basically what everyone is doing. (WRT waiting around to engage/ be engaged on)

I enjoy playing support.

Also lux support: zyra is all around better in that role.


It might be a style thing, but I prefer Lux to Zyra and I'm much better with the former. If I had to make a brief analysis, I'd say Lux brings much more damage while Zyra is better at zone control.

I have always felt fairly underwhelmed with Zyra as a support, and even as an AP mid, though I'd have to really grind games with her to figure out why I dislike her so much (and in the process I'd probably learn to like her, lol).


Lux is like nidalee with a bind. She is bad past early lane phase without some serious AP.

Zyra, on the other hand, has a root, slow, and her ult is amazing.


Lux has a bind and a slow, her ult is also amazing.
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