EPTOn July 11 2013 22:54 nojitosunrise wrote:
LoL is pretty big I think
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Def getting really big..
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11787 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:50 Slayer91 wrote: doesnt matter what jungle or role you pick as long as you play well if you blame your champ not having enough impact then its just another block to seeing your mistakes if you dont liek support play top and come back in 2 days complaining about bot lanes feeding and failing every game I dare you to play support for 200 games and not get frustrated by your lack of influence on the game. Sure, you might win 10 in a row if you get luck and good teammates. But you might as well lose 10 in a row. If you play better then other supports around, you can maybe increase your win percentage to 53% or something. If you play absurdly much better, this might look different. But you can consistently outperform the enemy support and still lose half your games, and that is annoying as fuck. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:05 Slusher wrote: I'm actually pretty annoyed NA and EU still get more (base)slots than Korea, what possible argument is there, champions has more teams than either LCS. EU/NA top teams are more popular and will bring more fans/viewers. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:04 Simberto wrote: I dare you to play support for 200 games and not get frustrated by your lack of influence on the game. Sure, you might win 10 in a row if you get luck and good teammates. But you might as well lose 10 in a row. If you play better then other supports around, you can maybe increase your win percentage to 53% or something. If you play absurdly much better, this might look different. But you can consistently outperform the enemy support and still lose half your games, and that is annoying as fuck. As a support main, I know what you mean. I can remember a game where I was trying to zone for my adc and he just chilled by tower since he "was a late game champ". That being said, I honestly believe that support and jungler have the biggest impact on a game, since both of them are usually the "initiators" of a decent team comp. But more importantly, jungler/support are able to feed kills the the carries in lane, and once people are given an advantage, they generally are able to carry that to winning the lane. Which supports have you been playing? I usually try to grab Blitz/Thresh (hehe) when I can, but after watching Mandu play Fiddle and recent surge of Nami, I've added those two to my pool, and they're never banned. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:58 Simberto wrote: Do you even play ranked? Thresh is always banned. Of course i would play him if he were not. And Lux is not really a good support. Haven't really played since I finished my promo series to Diamond a few weeks ago, too busy entertaining guests. Thresh is banned often, but its perfectly possible to pick him up, though I wouldn't say to main him. If they keep nerfing him, I think he'll get banned even less though he'll still be really strong. Idunno what you're talking about, Lux is an amazing support. | ||
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canucks12
Canada812 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:05 Slusher wrote: I'm actually pretty annoyed NA and EU still get more (base)slots than Korea, what possible argument is there, champions has more teams than either LCS. I'm gonna have to say that they scaled it off of the skill levels of the regions... or it could be money. Yep money. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:04 Simberto wrote: I dare you to play support for 200 games and not get frustrated by your lack of influence on the game. Sure, you might win 10 in a row if you get luck and good teammates. But you might as well lose 10 in a row. If you play better then other supports around, you can maybe increase your win percentage to 53% or something. If you play absurdly much better, this might look different. But you can consistently outperform the enemy support and still lose half your games, and that is annoying as fuck. You could have replaced Support with any other role and this whine wouldn't sound any different. If you don't think supports make enough of an impact, start directing plays. When you grant your team vision, ping and tell them to take objectives. If you're winning your lane as much as you say you are, chances are they will listen and follow your calls since you're doing well. If you're just sitting in lane, start directing other lanes, when I play support and it's a more passive lane, I stare at the minimap and ping for other lanes since they might not have the luxury to pay that much attention. Each role's what you make of it, not really fair to say "I'm support therefore I have no impact" | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:07 Kupon3ss wrote: they dont speak english They don't speak *fluent* English. Broken English is cute. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:04 Simberto wrote: I dare you to play support for 200 games and not get frustrated by your lack of influence on the game. Sure, you might win 10 in a row if you get luck and good teammates. But you might as well lose 10 in a row. If you play better then other supports around, you can maybe increase your win percentage to 53% or something. If you play absurdly much better, this might look different. But you can consistently outperform the enemy support and still lose half your games, and that is annoying as fuck. i play support and 2nd or 3rd main role and have over 60% winrates with my main ones consistently (multiple seasons, this season 69% soraka 66% sona 62% taric but he got nerfed so i stopped playing him, over 200 games total i think between the 3 of them) i also ward very little (relative to your average non-troll support) | ||
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Koenig99
Canada904 Posts
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:27 Simberto wrote: So, i am getting incredibly frustrated with support currently. I just don't feel like i have enough impact on a soloqueue game. Sure, i can win bot most of the time. Sure, i can provide lots of vision. But that doesnt't help me winning the game in any way. If i win bot, that just means that the enemy will 4-5 man dive us 2-3 times in a row and get dragons while my team does nothing useful at all. And vision doesn't help us win the game unless we are already ahead. People still manage to get caught with vision on 75% of the map, and it is just so frustrated if your top and mid feed hard while you win bot slightly. So, which role has the most impact? I assume jungler. What is a good list of high impact junglers i can look into learning now that i have finally fallen down to plat 5 due to random BS? I main jungle pretty much for this reason. I thought it would be the best role to carry with but now after playing it for a long time I'm thinking that mid is probably the best since you often won't get enough farm as a jungler to make a huge difference and even if you get your lanes ahead, people in soloQ love to throw leads. That being said, if you're still set on becoming a jungler then I would suggest xin/eve/sej. Xin - op early ganks and duelist. Eve - because she's Eve. Invisible ganks/forcing pinks just by being Eve is op. Sej - because she's a monster late game. Potential 5 man stun, has a knock up and a slow and her damage scales off max hp. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:19 Slayer91 wrote: i play support and 2nd or 3rd main role and have over 60% winrates with my main ones consistently (multiple seasons) i also ward very little (relative to your average non-troll support) Most people in soloq try to get actual items and ward very little. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:04 Simberto wrote: I dare you to play support for 200 games and not get frustrated by your lack of influence on the game. Sure, you might win 10 in a row if you get luck and good teammates. But you might as well lose 10 in a row. If you play better then other supports around, you can maybe increase your win percentage to 53% or something. If you play absurdly much better, this might look different. But you can consistently outperform the enemy support and still lose half your games, and that is annoying as fuck. I dare you to play any type of role for 200 games and not get frustrated by your lack of influence on the game. You can impact the game equally as support, let alone any role in this game. It's just of matter how well you can utilize yourself. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
And dont worry guyz old boys wont make it even with 3 spots na: c9, vulcun, tsm Eu:atn, gambit, fanatic | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:22 nafta wrote: Most people in soloq try to get actual items and ward very little. thats what i do my opinion is that 90% + of the game dying is due to poor awareness and lack of wards are used as an excuse (asusming you ward during the lane hpase and around dragon baron when relevant ) | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
If you're much better than other players in the game (even if it's just with that particular champion) then of course your win rate will go up significantly. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
this culminates to being able to carry a lane (avoiding 4 man ganks if you're fed is just awareness and not omg my team sucks btw) leading to 2 fed ppl on your team and 2 underfed ppl on your team + more likely that their jungler makes risky ganks and wastes time on your lane etc etc most people who refuse to play support as last pick because they cant carry tend to suck because they dont understand the game if they think thats how carrying works (shayuki style do everything solo ) | ||
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