• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:51
CET 22:51
KST 06:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners2Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!20$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1192 users

[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 339 Next
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 01:33:35
July 11 2013 01:32 GMT
#521
On July 11 2013 06:48 Alaric wrote:
The most annoying thing playing Nocturne against a super fed Rengar is that your spellshield doesn't work on his Q, since he doesn't cast it on you.

What? Stop spreading lies!
"Savagery pops Spell Shield."
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Rengar/Ability_Details

On July 11 2013 07:38 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 07:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On July 11 2013 07:25 beefhamburger wrote:
That random AP ratio. It seems Riot really wants Triforce to be mandatory on him.
[image loading]

Hohoho. 7276 damage. I really do hope Zenon sees this. That is cray cray.

For reference, a level 18 tristana with IE+zerks+BT+PD will do 3235 in 3 seconds by only autoattacking with Q active, while proccing lifesteal and not being able to miss any shots.

So then Lucian's advantage is far smaller than it seems.
Also after that Lichbane's proc and rageblade wear off and LW is taken into consideration I don't think it would take any more than 2 seconds for Trist to break even with Lucian before she pulls ahead.
Twitch probably has higher DPS with a runaan's with 6 items, and a potential dps an order of magnitude greater than this.
Also Twitch can't have his damage get flattened by a stun or knockup, can wait for exhaust to run out, and especially is not neutered from standing behind minions/tanks. Although I guess Twitch can't moonwalk and shoot at the same time.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 11 2013 01:35 GMT
#522
On July 11 2013 10:32 ketchup wrote:
I think it was last year that Samurai Master yi skin was given away for free by Alienware. It's actually pretty nice to look at in-game, so where is that option in the poll?

I honestly thought it was always the worst looking, and the reworked model is pretty damn ugly in my opinion. The plate just doesn't look good on him.
It's your boy Guzma!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
July 11 2013 02:03 GMT
#523
On July 11 2013 10:35 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 10:32 ketchup wrote:
I think it was last year that Samurai Master yi skin was given away for free by Alienware. It's actually pretty nice to look at in-game, so where is that option in the poll?

I honestly thought it was always the worst looking, and the reworked model is pretty damn ugly in my opinion. The plate just doesn't look good on him.


Really? I mean I don't own enough Yi skins to really have much to compare to. I just figured the option would be in the poll because the likelihood of people owning the skin is high. I guess my comparison comes from samurai yi vs original skin yi. Does the red-yi/flower yi look better with the visual rework or about the same?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 11 2013 02:06 GMT
#524
On July 11 2013 10:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Our boy (I guess our other boy now) with the mad Olaf propositions!

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/07/smashgizmos-tentative-plans-for-olaf.html#more


Doesnt look bad, except I hope the min distance axe throw doesnt kill his jungle, in the end.
Freeeeeeedom
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
July 11 2013 02:07 GMT
#525
I wanted the new champ so badly.. Have enough IP and everything ready to go
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 02:09:35
July 11 2013 02:09 GMT
#526
On July 11 2013 11:06 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 10:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Our boy (I guess our other boy now) with the mad Olaf propositions!

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/07/smashgizmos-tentative-plans-for-olaf.html#more


Doesnt look bad, except I hope the min distance axe throw doesnt kill his jungle, in the end.

It doesn't; the axes stick in walls and stuffz
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 11 2013 02:10 GMT
#527
I'm looking forward to the Master Yi changes. I hope it will shift the junglers towards a more carry-type of jungler. The season 2 pool was mainly support junglers, so i wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

Also Ionia Master Yi or gtfo.
hi
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 11 2013 02:14 GMT
#528
On July 11 2013 11:03 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 10:35 Requizen wrote:
On July 11 2013 10:32 ketchup wrote:
I think it was last year that Samurai Master yi skin was given away for free by Alienware. It's actually pretty nice to look at in-game, so where is that option in the poll?

I honestly thought it was always the worst looking, and the reworked model is pretty damn ugly in my opinion. The plate just doesn't look good on him.


Really? I mean I don't own enough Yi skins to really have much to compare to. I just figured the option would be in the poll because the likelihood of people owning the skin is high. I guess my comparison comes from samurai yi vs original skin yi. Does the red-yi/flower yi look better with the visual rework or about the same?

[image loading]

I think his new plate "coat" on the Samurai skin just looks awkward and bulky.

On July 11 2013 11:10 Sponkz wrote:
I'm looking forward to the Master Yi changes. I hope it will shift the junglers towards a more carry-type of jungler. The season 2 pool was mainly support junglers, so i wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

Also Ionia Master Yi or gtfo.

Already bought Chosen. Also left me enough for another 520, thinking Marquis Vlad or one of the Kennen skins.
It's your boy Guzma!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 11 2013 02:17 GMT
#529
On July 11 2013 11:10 Sponkz wrote:
I'm looking forward to the Master Yi changes. I hope it will shift the junglers towards a more carry-type of jungler. The season 2 pool was mainly support junglers, so i wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

Also Ionia Master Yi or gtfo.


How? I mean, what mechanism? They keep nerfing Hecarim because he can kinda do that.
Freeeeeeedom
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 11 2013 02:35 GMT
#530
The current Master Yi excels in the jungle by being an annoying split-pusher. If it somehow could be adapted to champions like Fiora or Tryndamere. Jungling doesn't give you anything near lane farm, but if you transition into a split-pusher in the mid/late-game it could work.
hi
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
July 11 2013 03:02 GMT
#531
Some pro team needs to base an entire teamcomp around Rengar(Rango)s QQ tower killing. I don't see why this hasn't happened yet.
"Do a barrel roll"
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 11 2013 03:03 GMT
#532
On July 11 2013 11:09 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 11:06 cLutZ wrote:
On July 11 2013 10:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Our boy (I guess our other boy now) with the mad Olaf propositions!

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/07/smashgizmos-tentative-plans-for-olaf.html#more


Doesnt look bad, except I hope the min distance axe throw doesnt kill his jungle, in the end.

It doesn't; the axes stick in walls and stuffz

Yea this is super well thought out and fantastic and I don't even play or care about Olaf.

Smash to replace Morello riotplz
Administrator@TL_Zess
| (• ◡•)|八 (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 11 2013 03:08 GMT
#533
On July 11 2013 12:03 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 11:09 upperbound wrote:
On July 11 2013 11:06 cLutZ wrote:
On July 11 2013 10:28 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Our boy (I guess our other boy now) with the mad Olaf propositions!

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/07/smashgizmos-tentative-plans-for-olaf.html#more


Doesnt look bad, except I hope the min distance axe throw doesnt kill his jungle, in the end.

It doesn't; the axes stick in walls and stuffz

Yea this is super well thought out and fantastic and I don't even play or care about Olaf.

Smash to replace Morello riotplz


It deopends how far the "handle" sticks out for lack of a better phrase. If you need to keep running through creeps to do it he is gonna need a free Phantom Dancer Passive.
Freeeeeeedom
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
July 11 2013 03:16 GMT
#534
I wonder if riot is ever going to come to the conclusion that unlimited wards is not a good idea.

As a support I would love it if spending all gold on wards and oracles was not the best way to assist the team. As long as you can buy infinite wards I don't see that happening though.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 11 2013 03:17 GMT
#535
On July 11 2013 12:16 Badboyrune wrote:
I wonder if riot is ever going to come to the conclusion that unlimited wards is not a good idea.

As a support I would love it if spending all gold on wards and oracles was not the best way to assist the team. As long as you can buy infinite wards I don't see that happening though.

Hmm; I like how it is now as support; I don't see them removing sightstone without adding something like HoG; cuz essentially sightstone is the new HoG.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 11 2013 03:18 GMT
#536
lol at all that Veigar talk

Olaf changes seem to be in the right direction. Go Smash, TL hwaiting.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 03:20:17
July 11 2013 03:19 GMT
#537
On July 11 2013 12:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 12:16 Badboyrune wrote:
I wonder if riot is ever going to come to the conclusion that unlimited wards is not a good idea.

As a support I would love it if spending all gold on wards and oracles was not the best way to assist the team. As long as you can buy infinite wards I don't see that happening though.

Hmm; I like how it is now as support; I don't see them removing sightstone without adding something like HoG; cuz essentially sightstone is the new HoG.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=535&topic_id=420729
It's kind of starting to become a problem in OGN, supports buying nothing but Ruby Sightstone and extra wards. Just seems like a lame way to play. Need better actives for Supports.

Edit: I was supposed to edit that last post, not quote it. I'm a baddie.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 11 2013 03:19 GMT
#538
On July 11 2013 12:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 12:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
lol at all that Veigar talk

Olaf changes seem to be in the right direction. Go Smash, TL hwaiting.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=535&topic_id=420729
It's kind of starting to become a problem in OGN, supports buying nothing but Ruby Sightstone and extra wards. Just seems like a lame way to play. Need better actives for Supports.

Edit: I was supposed to edit that last post, not quote it. I'm a baddie.


Reported for double post.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
July 11 2013 03:23 GMT
#539
On July 11 2013 12:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 12:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 11 2013 12:16 Badboyrune wrote:
I wonder if riot is ever going to come to the conclusion that unlimited wards is not a good idea.

As a support I would love it if spending all gold on wards and oracles was not the best way to assist the team. As long as you can buy infinite wards I don't see that happening though.

Hmm; I like how it is now as support; I don't see them removing sightstone without adding something like HoG; cuz essentially sightstone is the new HoG.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=535&topic_id=420729
It's kind of starting to become a problem in OGN, supports buying nothing but Ruby Sightstone and extra wards. Just seems like a lame way to play. Need better actives for Supports.


Been noticing the same thing in LCS =/
Power-tripping mod for Trump's stream
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 11 2013 03:24 GMT
#540
On July 11 2013 12:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 12:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 11 2013 12:16 Badboyrune wrote:
I wonder if riot is ever going to come to the conclusion that unlimited wards is not a good idea.

As a support I would love it if spending all gold on wards and oracles was not the best way to assist the team. As long as you can buy infinite wards I don't see that happening though.

Hmm; I like how it is now as support; I don't see them removing sightstone without adding something like HoG; cuz essentially sightstone is the new HoG.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=535&topic_id=420729
It's kind of starting to become a problem in OGN, supports buying nothing but Ruby Sightstone and extra wards. Just seems like a lame way to play. Need better actives for Supports.

Edit: I was supposed to edit that last post, not quote it. I'm a baddie.

Yeah; it's definitely an issue in OGN; but I think that has more to do with Oracles change than Sightstone.
liftlift > tsm
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 339 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Day 3: Ursa 2v2, FFA
SteadfastSC352
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 352
White-Ra 262
ProTech121
Railgan 66
ROOTCatZ 62
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 445
UpATreeSC 125
Bonyth 98
ivOry 13
NaDa 10
Dota 2
Dendi1104
Counter-Strike
Foxcn144
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken23
AZ_Axe5
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu504
Other Games
tarik_tv9452
fl0m674
shahzam375
FrodaN365
Pyrionflax212
ToD189
KnowMe171
ArmadaUGS115
C9.Mang0108
Mew2King73
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL167
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 28
• Reevou 9
• Adnapsc2 9
• Dystopia_ 3
• iHatsuTV 2
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler97
League of Legends
• TFBlade1176
Other Games
• imaqtpie1369
• Scarra386
• Shiphtur208
Upcoming Events
OSC
9m
davetesta5
Replay Cast
1h 9m
OSC
14h 9m
LAN Event
17h 9m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 5h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 12h
LAN Event
1d 17h
IPSL
1d 20h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 22h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.