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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 10 2013 23:58 GMT
#501
On July 11 2013 08:14 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 07:59 Alaric wrote:
On July 11 2013 07:31 Gahlo wrote:
Since it didn't gain any traction in the Vi thread, what do people think about AS/Armor/MR/ArPen? Stole the idea from TOO's Nocturne setup. You get your AS while giving solid amounts of penetration.

Yeah I read that but was busy and didn't come back to it. >_<

It's basically math to see if it helps your first clear I guess. I def. prefer AS marks over other options because it makes killing high-HP stuff (basically big monsters, drake (depending on debuff since it affects AS and not AD) and champions, but squishies will die before you really get to "dps" them because of burst) faster, but ArPen/AD for gank burst, or AD/AD for a balanced setup is def. possible.

She basically "incidentally" kills small monsters anyway, I guess I'll have a look at it tomorrow if I find the time to look at the big monsters numbers and make some dps calculations.
It's probably not big enough (early game at least, since we know ArPen > AD late game) to warrant buying ArPen quints just for that, considering that ArPen/AD beats AD/ArPen, you don't have much incentive to buy those runes ('cept if you want a hyper-aggro ArPen/ArPen page on like Urgot) and it comes down to how much IP and available runepages do you have.


Regarding Veigar having trouble reaching his targets (and gibbing them, much like any assassin, I mean Talon's 10s cd gap closer at level 18 suffers a bunch too, esp. as he can't faceroll as fast as Kha or Zed w/o getting cc'd), do you think he could have an easier time if picked against a team which favours diving, so that he can counter-initiate with his W (a bit like Sona does, rather than Flash-ult like we all did a few months back), and have his priority targets actually want to come to him?
It wouldn't make killing them any easier, and it'd mean you'd have to pick him pretty late to recognise those situations, but it would alleviate his issues with reaching targets w/o over-exposing himself or blowing Flash.
(And as I wrote, "easier time" rather than "suddenly become good". Just trying to identify a niche where he'd have more success past his relative power peak.)


I have ArPen quints from when ArPen/armor/mr/ArPen was standard on ADC. They're nice on people like Fiora that have their massive AD passives too. The 7.75 from quints and 5 from masteries puts you at 13.7, enough to do true damage against all nonbuff monsters outside of Big Wraith, who ends up with like...1. Also effectively strips off peoples seals.

Also, ArPen scales much better with AD casters, because of high phys base damages.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 10 2013 23:59 GMT
#502
When did they rework the Riven art? I don't like it
Never Knows Best.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 11 2013 00:01 GMT
#503
On July 11 2013 07:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 07:35 Chrispy wrote:
*snip*

Somebody, find the Yiruru.

Too busy staring at the Ezreal.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/collegiate-game-changers-ubc


Ofc that ez..

http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/collegiate/game-changers/2012-2013-page/UBC Photo 2.jpg

I actually see the top of my head in that picture, it was taken quite a while ago.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 00:24:13
July 11 2013 00:18 GMT
#504
I didn't want to give in to the Draven is very strong hype ever, but after playing Ezreal vs Draven and having his 1 auto hit harder than 3 of my Qs I realized he's jesus come again. I can't even imagine how much stronger he was vs Ezreal before the change.

I kinda like the Riven art. It doesn't match her in game though.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 11 2013 00:26 GMT
#505
On July 11 2013 09:18 RagequitBM wrote:
I didn't want to give in to the Draven is very strong hype ever, but after playing Ezreal vs Draven and having his 1 auto hit harder than 3 of my Qs I realized he's jesus come again. I can't even imagine how much stronger he was vs Ezreal before the change.

I kinda like the Riven art. It doesn't match her in game though.

I giggled like a little school girl;
I just pick leona into Draven as a support. It's pretty strong; but I just ban him for the most part.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 00:28:54
July 11 2013 00:28 GMT
#506
On July 11 2013 09:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:18 RagequitBM wrote:
I didn't want to give in to the Draven is very strong hype ever, but after playing Ezreal vs Draven and having his 1 auto hit harder than 3 of my Qs I realized he's jesus come again. I can't even imagine how much stronger he was vs Ezreal before the change.

I kinda like the Riven art. It doesn't match her in game though.

I giggled like a little school girl;
I just pick leona into Draven as a support. It's pretty strong; but I just ban him for the most part.


But pre 6 you literally can't do a single thing.He is free to do whatever he wants and have his way with your ad >.>.If he has cleanse after 6 you can't do much either.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 11 2013 00:40 GMT
#507
awesome, thanks for finding that for me cheep
and cheep, i feel your pain, what with you having actual knowledge on veigar and everyone else just spewing out random half-true opinions as facts
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
July 11 2013 00:44 GMT
#508
That's because he hasn't gone Nashor's Lichbane Veigar
Infinite AP + 3 second Q = infinite sustained dps in teamfights

amirite?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 11 2013 00:57 GMT
#509
On July 11 2013 09:28 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:26 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:18 RagequitBM wrote:
I didn't want to give in to the Draven is very strong hype ever, but after playing Ezreal vs Draven and having his 1 auto hit harder than 3 of my Qs I realized he's jesus come again. I can't even imagine how much stronger he was vs Ezreal before the change.

I kinda like the Riven art. It doesn't match her in game though.

I giggled like a little school girl;
I just pick leona into Draven as a support. It's pretty strong; but I just ban him for the most part.


But pre 6 you literally can't do a single thing.He is free to do whatever he wants and have his way with your ad >.>.If he has cleanse after 6 you can't do much either.

I usually run out the lane by going cloth; 1 pink; 0/21/9; then all in at level 3. Even if he cleanses that; the passive procs out damage his Q's.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 11 2013 00:59 GMT
#510
On July 11 2013 09:57 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:28 nafta wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:26 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:18 RagequitBM wrote:
I didn't want to give in to the Draven is very strong hype ever, but after playing Ezreal vs Draven and having his 1 auto hit harder than 3 of my Qs I realized he's jesus come again. I can't even imagine how much stronger he was vs Ezreal before the change.

I kinda like the Riven art. It doesn't match her in game though.

I giggled like a little school girl;
I just pick leona into Draven as a support. It's pretty strong; but I just ban him for the most part.


But pre 6 you literally can't do a single thing.He is free to do whatever he wants and have his way with your ad >.>.If he has cleanse after 6 you can't do much either.

I usually run out the lane by going cloth; 1 pink; 0/21/9; then all in at level 3. Even if he cleanses that; the passive procs out damage his Q's.


No I mean he just blocks your jump and there is no way you can get to him.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 01:19:05
July 11 2013 01:15 GMT
#511
On July 11 2013 09:59 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:57 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:28 nafta wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:26 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:18 RagequitBM wrote:
I didn't want to give in to the Draven is very strong hype ever, but after playing Ezreal vs Draven and having his 1 auto hit harder than 3 of my Qs I realized he's jesus come again. I can't even imagine how much stronger he was vs Ezreal before the change.

I kinda like the Riven art. It doesn't match her in game though.

I giggled like a little school girl;
I just pick leona into Draven as a support. It's pretty strong; but I just ban him for the most part.


But pre 6 you literally can't do a single thing.He is free to do whatever he wants and have his way with your ad >.>.If he has cleanse after 6 you can't do much either.

I usually run out the lane by going cloth; 1 pink; 0/21/9; then all in at level 3. Even if he cleanses that; the passive procs out damage his Q's.


No I mean he just blocks your jump and there is no way you can get to him.

Tier 1 Q's aren't that scary then.
I dunno; I just Hook onto the axe landing poing if they go for it; I almost never eat the E.
If you can do the procs correctly; your adc gets 3 procs at level 3 from leonas passive; that in itself out trades draven.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 11 2013 01:16 GMT
#512
Poll: Which Yi skin should I buy

Jedi Yi (5)
 
50%

Flower Yi (4)
 
40%

Edgy Serrated Yi (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Which Yi skin should I buy

(Vote): Jedi Yi
(Vote): Edgy Serrated Yi
(Vote): Flower Yi


It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 11 2013 01:17 GMT
#513
None; cuz Yi is scumbag champion.
liftlift > tsm
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
July 11 2013 01:21 GMT
#514
On July 11 2013 10:16 Requizen wrote:
Poll: Which Yi skin should I buy

Jedi Yi (5)
 
50%

Flower Yi (4)
 
40%

Edgy Serrated Yi (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Which Yi skin should I buy

(Vote): Jedi Yi
(Vote): Edgy Serrated Yi
(Vote): Flower Yi



Where is my option for black recolor yi
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
July 11 2013 01:22 GMT
#515
Also anyone have any idea how i would go about cutting clips from lolreplays to make a montage?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 11 2013 01:24 GMT
#516
On July 11 2013 10:21 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 10:16 Requizen wrote:
Poll: Which Yi skin should I buy

Jedi Yi (5)
 
50%

Flower Yi (4)
 
40%

Edgy Serrated Yi (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Which Yi skin should I buy

(Vote): Jedi Yi
(Vote): Edgy Serrated Yi
(Vote): Flower Yi



Where is my option for black recolor yi

I use black recolor yi
best skin art
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 11 2013 01:25 GMT
#517
On July 11 2013 10:21 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 10:16 Requizen wrote:
Poll: Which Yi skin should I buy

Jedi Yi (5)
 
50%

Flower Yi (4)
 
40%

Edgy Serrated Yi (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Which Yi skin should I buy

(Vote): Jedi Yi
(Vote): Edgy Serrated Yi
(Vote): Flower Yi



Where is my option for black recolor yi

Right over here in the "even after the rework it's still pretty damn bland" aisle.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 11 2013 01:28 GMT
#518
Our boy (I guess our other boy now) with the mad Olaf propositions!

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/07/smashgizmos-tentative-plans-for-olaf.html#more
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 11 2013 01:31 GMT
#519
Gregidot: finally a black champion we can cosplay LOL
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 01:33:51
July 11 2013 01:32 GMT
#520
I think it was last year that Samurai Master yi skin was given away for free by Alienware. It's actually pretty nice to look at in-game, so where is that option in the poll? I'm not too certain if red-yi looks as good after this graphical rework.
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