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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 26 2013 20:42 GMT
#4261
As things stand now, I'll probably get Varus, Caitlyn, and Graves relatively soon (probably if they go on RP sale) and try to save my IP for buying runes for those champs. Thankfully, the Ezreal/Riven runes I have already seem to already go with those champs as well, so it'll probably be me spending IP on ArPen runes and Quint Life Steals.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 20:47:07
June 26 2013 20:46 GMT
#4262
On June 27 2013 05:42 Kinie wrote:
As things stand now, I'll probably get Varus, Caitlyn, and Graves relatively soon (probably if they go on RP sale) and try to save my IP for buying runes for those champs. Thankfully, the Ezreal/Riven runes I have already seem to already go with those champs as well, so it'll probably be me spending IP on ArPen runes and Quint Life Steals.


If you have ad and you have trouble farming ip don't get arpen.Not worth.Lifesteal quints make the role A LOT easier to play and allow you to do different builds.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 26 2013 20:46 GMT
#4263
Yeah if you get used to the champs and are good enough even the good ol' AD/armour/MR/AD will give you all you need for any AD carry, since they all have a close basic gameplay.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 26 2013 20:48 GMT
#4264
I am having a lot of success with Lissandra in mid since her buffs, is everybody else experiencing the same thing? She seems pretty strong. Just play defensive in lane and then demolish teamfights.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 26 2013 20:52 GMT
#4265
On June 27 2013 05:23 Kinie wrote:
See, Caitlyn has the problem of just being an auto-attack champ once late game hits, and I don't know if that's what I'm looking for in my ADC. My ideal ADC is someone with a good poke (for early game dives and guaranteeing CS), one escape skill other than Flash, and an ult that helps in team fights (CC or lotsa dmg. to multiple targets). Right now, the person that best fits that idea is Ez, but Draven just shuts him down so hard in lane it's rediculous.

Vayne's close, but is even more auto-attacky then Cait, and Varus doesn't really have an escape skill, just an AoE slow.

Cait's Q is really strong early game and has an escape skill. And it's a natural part of the ADC design and the itemization that makes it so that later on in the game the vast majority of your damage is going to come from auto attacks due to crit. The only ADC that isn't like that is Ezreal, really. Even a champion like Graves who does a ton of burst damage with his Q and ult still does a huge bulk of his damage with autos later on. If you have a problem with auto-attack champs then no ADC is going to fit your bill besides Ezreal as they all become more and more auto-attack reliant as the game goes. There's a reason why all the "late game ADCs" are really just the ADCs that get the biggest auto-attack steroids (Kog, Trist, Vayne).
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
June 26 2013 20:54 GMT
#4266
I take for granted nobody plays Quinn.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 26 2013 20:57 GMT
#4267
On June 27 2013 05:52 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:23 Kinie wrote:
See, Caitlyn has the problem of just being an auto-attack champ once late game hits, and I don't know if that's what I'm looking for in my ADC. My ideal ADC is someone with a good poke (for early game dives and guaranteeing CS), one escape skill other than Flash, and an ult that helps in team fights (CC or lotsa dmg. to multiple targets). Right now, the person that best fits that idea is Ez, but Draven just shuts him down so hard in lane it's rediculous.

Vayne's close, but is even more auto-attacky then Cait, and Varus doesn't really have an escape skill, just an AoE slow.

Cait's Q is really strong early game and has an escape skill. And it's a natural part of the ADC design and the itemization that makes it so that later on in the game the vast majority of your damage is going to come from auto attacks due to crit. The only ADC that isn't like that is Ezreal, really. Even a champion like Graves who does a ton of burst damage with his Q and ult still does a huge bulk of his damage with autos later on. If you have a problem with auto-attack champs then no ADC is going to fit your bill besides Ezreal as they all become more and more auto-attack reliant as the game goes. There's a reason why all the "late game ADCs" are really just the ADCs that get the biggest auto-attack steroids (Kog, Trist, Vayne).


Yeah if you don't like "auto-attack champs" you probably should play any role in the game except for ADC. Past like 20 minutes auto-attacking is all you're gonna do in games.

If you're intent on playing 'ADC' and don't want to auto-attack and get bored of blue Ez you could consider picking up Urgot.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
June 26 2013 21:00 GMT
#4268
OR you could play AP Ez. That's a lot of fun.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 26 2013 21:05 GMT
#4269
On June 27 2013 05:54 XaCez wrote:
I take for granted nobody plays Quinn.

I never knew Quinn existed, I spent the first 15 minutes of an aram clueless. After getting an understanding its quite a fun champion.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
June 26 2013 21:16 GMT
#4270
On June 27 2013 05:54 XaCez wrote:
I take for granted nobody plays Quinn.

I do! Quinn is so much fun

You may struggle in team fights but her ability to duel and pick off people is really strong in soloQ in my opinion.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 26 2013 21:18 GMT
#4271
On June 27 2013 05:48 Ketara wrote:
I am having a lot of success with Lissandra in mid since her buffs, is everybody else experiencing the same thing? She seems pretty strong. Just play defensive in lane and then demolish teamfights.

I think she was pretty decent before her changes, she just wasn't played a lot. She actually does less damage than before, but she now has a little extra control since they lowered the CD on her W. She still does pretty good damage if you get a bit fed. She's my go too mid these days, really fun to play.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
June 26 2013 21:25 GMT
#4272
On June 27 2013 06:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 05:48 Ketara wrote:
I am having a lot of success with Lissandra in mid since her buffs, is everybody else experiencing the same thing? She seems pretty strong. Just play defensive in lane and then demolish teamfights.

I think she was pretty decent before her changes, she just wasn't played a lot. She actually does less damage than before, but she now has a little extra control since they lowered the CD on her W. She still does pretty good damage if you get a bit fed. She's my go too mid these days, really fun to play.


How are you handling lane phase? I tried her out when she launched and just couldn't figure out how she fit in. Felt like she filled same roll as Swain but he did it a little better.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 26 2013 21:29 GMT
#4273
Lissandra is an initiating AP, similar to morgana, but less reliant on flash.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 26 2013 21:30 GMT
#4274
On June 27 2013 06:25 Brambled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 06:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
On June 27 2013 05:48 Ketara wrote:
I am having a lot of success with Lissandra in mid since her buffs, is everybody else experiencing the same thing? She seems pretty strong. Just play defensive in lane and then demolish teamfights.

I think she was pretty decent before her changes, she just wasn't played a lot. She actually does less damage than before, but she now has a little extra control since they lowered the CD on her W. She still does pretty good damage if you get a bit fed. She's my go too mid these days, really fun to play.


How are you handling lane phase? I tried her out when she launched and just couldn't figure out how she fit in. Felt like she filled same roll as Swain but he did it a little better.

She has way more control potential than Swain, her root and ult are both instant so if you get in range there's no dodging that (aside from Flash). In lane I just max Q and use it to farm and poke if they are dumb enough to stand in the creep wave. I usually just farm and only go for a kill if they are playing super aggro. She is really good at assisting Jungler ganks though. If the enemy has bad wave clear I'll push out and roam, her ult is a pretty great ganking tool (especially in conjunction with E).
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 26 2013 21:39 GMT
#4275
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=494877273917163&set=a.427335237338034.97579.425847137486844&type=1
To the absolute surprise of everyone gambit are keeping darker on as a permanent member.
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 26 2013 21:41 GMT
#4276
On June 27 2013 06:39 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=494877273917163&set=a.427335237338034.97579.425847137486844&type=1
To the absolute surprise of no one gambit are keeping darker on as a permanent member.

Fixed?
Freeeeeeedom
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 26 2013 21:42 GMT
#4277
I believe it was sarcasm ;D
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 26 2013 21:42 GMT
#4278
On June 27 2013 06:41 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 06:39 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=494877273917163&set=a.427335237338034.97579.425847137486844&type=1
To the absolute surprise of no one gambit are keeping darker on as a permanent member.

Fixed?

I curse the internet's inability to convey sarcasm.
Glorious SEA doto
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
June 26 2013 21:47 GMT
#4279
On June 27 2013 06:42 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 06:41 cLutZ wrote:
On June 27 2013 06:39 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=494877273917163&set=a.427335237338034.97579.425847137486844&type=1
To the absolute surprise of no one gambit are keeping darker on as a permanent member.

Fixed?

I curse the internet's inability to convey sarcasm.

Pfft, you just need to purchase the sarcasm app. Comes free with internet+ membership.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 26 2013 21:50 GMT
#4280
On June 27 2013 06:42 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 06:41 cLutZ wrote:
On June 27 2013 06:39 Fusilero wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=494877273917163&set=a.427335237338034.97579.425847137486844&type=1
To the absolute surprise of no one gambit are keeping darker on as a permanent member.

Fixed?

I curse the internet's inability to convey sarcasm.


Isn't that what

+ Show Spoiler +
spoilers are for?
Freeeeeeedom
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